"There has always been a sing-off when there are five people left in the competition"
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Quote from Simon in today's Sun
Ruth Lorenzo....5th placed...left on public votes alone...
Get your facts right Mr Cowell! Some of us don't have the memory of a gold fish!
Ruth Lorenzo....5th placed...left on public votes alone...
Get your facts right Mr Cowell! Some of us don't have the memory of a gold fish!
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Plus the fact is that this explanation doesn't make the evidence just disappear into thin air. We need more than that, especially after Dermot said "your votes and your votes alone".
You may need more than that but it is highly unlikely you are going to get more than that.
Dermot says things like that every week. Had he said "your votes and your votes alone will determine who leaves the competition", then you might have a point. Alas, he did not and what he said was something about acts safely progressing.
"your votes and your votes alone... determine who safely goes through"
Just like the week before he said
"Your votes alone... guarantee your favourite act through"
Of course I know that. There's no way we'll get a reasonable explanation. I just wish in that case they wouldn't bother at all with piss poor excuses like the one Simon has given, which isn't even true.
The absolute misinformation they are coming out with now shows they know the messed up. Problem is most of the public are stupid enough to believe them.
PS Surely Simon hasn’t forgotten last year – when Lloyd went out in the public vote in the last 5 (no sing off) and Olly did his yobbish celebratory cheer when he made it through
If I couldn't quite remember exactly what happened previous series, then I certainly remember that moment, it came down to Olly and Lloyd as last man standing on stage (NOT necessarily the bottom 2, in fact Olly was third that night) and Dermot announced Lloyd as the lowest votes. As he then did with Danyl the next week.
Simon must be reliant on the public not remembering things from one week to the next, and he's probably right, the MAJORITY of X Factor fans, not the ones who post on forums, probably when reading that statement, probably will just nod in agreement and go 'oh yeah' without really thinking about it.
I don't ever go in for conspiracy theories and I'm still reluctant to shout 'fix' but why the vagueness and confusion?
With them never having a semi final sing off, it's reasonable to assume most people thought there wouldn't be one regardless of how many contestants there were, and it's clear from the amount of people posting on the forums at the time that the only time the X Factor made it abundantly clear there was going to be a sing off to the VIEWERS was when Dermot said 'who will sing again in the final showdown'.
I know they can and will do what the like but that left a bad taste in my mouth, it wasn't right, almost like they were deliberately deceptive. It may well have been planned but they certainly didn't make it clear to the viewer
There have been, technically - in series 1 & 3, it only went to the public vote when there were four left. (However, in both of these years, there were only two in the final, and the public were in control from the quarter-final onwards.)
Yes there has. Series 1 there was and series 3 at least
You can hardly talk...
Why do people defend Simon so visciously? He said 'ALWAYS' and this is incorrect.
I am too young to remember series 1 and 3:D
I do remember series 5 and 6 though!
Excuse me?
I'm not talking about Simon at all?
I was replying to a poster who sid that there had never been a sing off with 5 remaining, that is incorrect.
Series 3 didn't.
However I'm not sure what that matters, this series had 16, so therefore we should expect it to be different, no?
It was much better back then
I remember the one in S1 because Sharon had to choose between her own acts
Tabby and Cassie wasn't it? I remember that too because she had only said in the papers a couple days before if the bottom 2 was Tabby and Cassie then she wasn't going to vote.
I agree it was much better, it was more like Pop Idol and more about the talent, there certainly wasn't over blown productions with cars and skate ramps back then. I think the most people got in terms of production was a choir.
I think the actual talent pool has got better since series 1 I must say but it is overshadowed by the need to be a good TV show now.
You are forgetting Tabby's 'Sweet Child of Mine' with the VT in the background of his child - the worst thing they have ever done I think.
Cant believe that Simon thinks the public will accept his pathetic explanation which proves to be false anyway.The judges never decide who gets to the Final in the penultimate show.
In general, though every series until this one has had a contestant or two who would have stood out in any series. The general standard has taken a dive this year.
Yes he could have added "but don't worry if your act comes bottom, there might still be a chance for the judges to put them through!"
I get all this it was planned in advance blah blah but the issue I have, like others, is the show was deliberately vague, not even at the start of the results show did Dermot mention anything about a sing off. And given there has never been a sing off to decide the final place in the final, it's reasonable to assume the 15 million people watching didn't expect one either. Look at the moment on here Dermot finally said "will sing in the final showdown", it caused uproar, and it will certainly have provoked a bit of a 'huh?' reaction at the least to most people watching.
I have to say I WAS worried on the Saturday, that I didn't notice Dermot doing his usual song and dance about 'the judge's losing their power' and wondered if they were possibly going to sneak a 'sing off' in. I said this on Sunday morning on here but certainly to the casual viewer no one expected a semi final sing off this weekend. Yes X factor can change the rules at any times, I just think it stinks it was not made crystal clear to the viewers at any stage before the lines closed.