Car Insurance for Dummies

IphigeniaIphigenia Posts: 8,109
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My current insurance, through Endsleigh, has shot up from £27 pm to £47. I have 9 years NCD. It seems to be a national increase plus an increase due to the general dodginess of West Yorkshire (that's what Endsleigh say anyway).

I've found a cheaper quote from another provider. Yes, I will be checking it it's too good to be true.

I'd like to pay it in a lump, rather than over the year.

I can afford to do it on payday, which is the 29th.
The renewal date is the 28th.

Is there any problem if I just cancel the Endsleigh one forthwith, and have a 24 hour gap of not driving, and start the new one on the 29th?

Does one's insurance/driving history have to be unbroken for NCD to apply? Apologies for the dumbass question but I've never not be insured in the last 33 years.

Ta.

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,229
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    I think if you were to that then it would end your no claims and you'd have to start all over again.
  • minorityminority Posts: 625
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    wouldn't you also have to declare your vehical off road to dvla as it would be illegal?
  • richard craniumrichard cranium Posts: 4,388
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    I don't see how the 24 hr gap between one Insurance lapsing and another starting can affect your NCD.

    Remember, however to keep evidence of your NCD. Your new Insurer will want proof that you have driven claim free for 9 years.
  • nessyfencernessyfencer Posts: 9,195
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    minority wrote: »
    wouldn't you also have to declare your vehical off road to dvla as it would be illegal?

    No; that's roadtax.
  • YosemiteYosemite Posts: 6,192
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    Iphigenia wrote: »
    I can afford to do it on payday, which is the 29th.
    The renewal date is the 28th.

    Is there any problem if I just cancel the Endsleigh one forthwith, and have a 24 hour gap of not driving, and start the new one on the 29th?

    No problem whatsoever (so long as you don't use the vehicle on the missing day).

    Your new insurer will not be aware of (or in the case of a single day, care about) the expiry date of the Endsleigh policy. Most policies expire at midnight but some do so at noon, so it's quite easy to have an overlap if policyholders don't check the details carefully.

    If the lapsed period was several months, the circumstances would probably be different.
    sahalouise wrote: »
    I think if you were to that then it would end your no claims and you'd have to start all over again.

    Utter nonsense.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,229
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    Yosemite wrote: »

    Utter nonsense.

    I said I think, I didn't say I was 100% sure. But thankyou for making me feel like an idiot, I'm sure it made your Thursday afternoon miles better :)
  • chrisjrchrisjr Posts: 33,282
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    No; that's roadtax.
    Not so. You can now be done for no insurance if a vehicle is kept off road without being declared SORN

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/Motorinsurance/DG_186696
  • nessyfencernessyfencer Posts: 9,195
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    chrisjr wrote: »
    Not so. You can now be done for no insurance if a vehicle is kept off road without being declared SORN

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/Motorinsurance/DG_186696
    According to AskMID, this change is not until late June
    From late June 2011 there will be new penalties for anyone who keeps a vehicle that does not have insurance. These new measures are in addition to the powers the police already have to seize an uninsured vehicle and fine the driver.

    http://stayinsured.askmid.com/stay-insured.html

    ETA: Even the link that you posted only says that it "will" change, not that it has changed.
  • IphigeniaIphigenia Posts: 8,109
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    chrisjr wrote: »
    Not so. You can now be done for no insurance if a vehicle is kept off road without being declared SORN

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/Motorinsurance/DG_186696

    Wow, Draconian!

    Still, for only 24 hours, it looks like the most I'd get is an Advisory Letter. As long as the 24 hour gap doesn't cancel out NCD, it looks like I'll be OK. Thankyou for all the replies.
  • chrisjrchrisjr Posts: 33,282
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    According to AskMID, this change is not until late June

    http://stayinsured.askmid.com/stay-insured.html

    ETA: Even the link that you posted only says that it "will" change, not that it has changed.
    To me "From early 2011" doesn't suggest "late June". And there is a PDF from the Department of Transport linked to on the askMID page that suggests DVLA are sending out notices about the law change now.

    http://stayinsured.askmid.com/Documents/MIB_Transport_Select_Committee_press_statement.pdf

    It is a press release from March and the wording in the second and third paragraphs does suggest the changes in the law were made before the date of that release.

    Though it does all seem a bit ambiguous really. Why they could not simply say on xy date the law changes I don't know!
  • CruachanCruachan Posts: 7,211
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    chrisjr wrote: »
    To me "From early 2011" doesn't suggest "late June". And there is a PDF from the Department of Transport linked to on the askMID page that suggests DVLA are sending out notices about the law change now.

    http://stayinsured.askmid.com/Documents/MIB_Transport_Select_Committee_press_statement.pdf

    It is a press release from March and the wording in the second and third paragraphs does suggest the changes in the law were made before the date of that release.

    Though it does all seem a bit ambiguous really. Why they could not simply say on xy date the law changes I don't know!

    At least one person has already fallen foul on the "continuous insurance" requirement.

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1463290&highlight=

    EDIT: Oops I see that you are aware of that - you've a post in there.
  • nessyfencernessyfencer Posts: 9,195
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    chrisjr wrote: »
    To me "From early 2011" doesn't suggest "late June". And there is a PDF from the Department of Transport linked to on the askMID page that suggests DVLA are sending out notices about the law change now.

    http://stayinsured.askmid.com/Documents/MIB_Transport_Select_Committee_press_statement.pdf

    It is a press release from March and the wording in the second and third paragraphs does suggest the changes in the law were made before the date of that release.

    Though it does all seem a bit ambiguous really. Why they could not simply say on xy date the law changes I don't know!

    That would be too helpful ;)
  • FritzFritz Posts: 147
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    I'm not sure what level of cover we're talking about here - if it's third party only then your suggestion of just not driving it appears fine from an insurance point of view (I dont know about the DVLA side of it). However if your cover is fully comp and someone happens to break into your car or damage it somehow during the 24 hours when you're not using it then you'd have no cover to pay for the damage. Unlikley, I know but that's what insurance is apparently all about!
  • IphigeniaIphigenia Posts: 8,109
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    Thanks for all the replies. Still not quite got it sorted yet, and got another question:

    suppose I stick with Endsleigh, whom I pay monthly, for the first month.
    If payday doesn't fall when I want it to (and no amount of asking seems to get me an answer on this one) can I
    Pay Endsleigh for a month
    Cancel/give notice to cancel after the month
    In a month's time take out new insurance?

    Is paying monthly entering into a 12 month contract, when it comes to car insurance? There must be some get out for those who sell their car or otherwise give up driving before the year end but can you just cancel because you want to?
    Ta.
  • TheBigMTheBigM Posts: 13,125
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    That question would be best put to them. But you can get short-term insurance. There are insurance providers who specialise in insurance for periods of less than a month.
  • mozamoza Posts: 1,418
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    What's Endsleigh's cancellation policy on renewal?

    For home insurance you have a 14 day cooling off period under FSA regulations at the start of each new contract; ie when your policy renews, even if you remain with the same company.

    *If* car insurance is the same, you could:

    Renew with Endsleigh on 28th
    Start your new policy when you can pay on 29th
    Call up Endsleigh and cancel once you start the new one, and under the 14 day cooling off period they will refund any premiums, provided you haven't claimed.

    I'm much more familiar with home insurance, but as far as I know the same regulations should apply to car insurance in that respect. Check into it and it may save you a LOT of hassle!
  • Sargeant80Sargeant80 Posts: 1,413
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    Something to consider is insuring with the new company on direct debit and then pay the whole premium off a couple of weeks after its started.

    You would need to call the new insurer and make sure they would have no issue with changing payment method and to ensure there would be no extra cost to you.
  • IphigeniaIphigenia Posts: 8,109
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    Thankyou for the great suggestions.

    Endsleigh do have a 14 day cooling off period, so that might well be the way to go, and start afresh with a new company. Thankyou!
  • Bedsit BobBedsit Bob Posts: 24,344
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    NCD usually survives for 2 years.
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