Derek Grant Gets 6yrs For Fatally Stabbing Mugger, after Hes Stabbed In the Eye
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-29015072
Guess it was because he armed himself with a knife, and went looking for him.
Guess it was because he armed himself with a knife, and went looking for him.
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The guy was simply attempting to get his property returned when he was attacked and defended himself.
The fact that people have so little faith in the police's ability to successfully resolve situations like this is a damning indictment of our society and the police and the courts should consider themselves at least partially responsible for this situation.
Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry and Charles Bronson's character in the Death Wish films had the right idea.
If we had police like Judge Dredd on the streets I'd feel a lot safer. I'd sack the soft judges and name and shame them, make the do-gooders who cry offenders' rights take the offenders' places in prison or make them share a cell with them.
If the judges gave out tougher sentences and prisons were harsher there wouldn't be as much need for vigilanties.
Me neither. Grant should have known not to try and confront anybody he knew was armed with a knife, and as such has a life-changing injury, not to mention a criminal conviction and a prison sentence. But right up to the actual physical assault, can it be said that he initiated this man's death? The mugger had the chance to hand back the property, and instead stabbed Grant, who acted in self-defence in my opinion.
I hope Mr Grant's time in prison goes as well as it can, and that he's released at the soonest opportunity.
He killed the Giggler, man. HE KILLED THE GIGGLER!
Did he know that Bradley had a knife though? The article doesn't mention that Bradley was armed until he was confronted and attacked Grant, so the knife (presumably) was only there for self-defence and to encourage Bradley to return the phone.
Except it wasn't a murder.
I think he had good reason to expect he would be
Kind of changes things really. Rather stupid going after someone with a knife. I'm not sure what he expected Bradley to do - simply hand over the phone when confronted??
Yeah, pretty reckless to go after somebody you know will be tooled up, which is why he did the same, to even things up. But I also understand his wish to reclaim his son's stolen property. Unfortunately things went bad, but there is nothing to suggest he initiated the actual fateful exchange.
He didn't stab him for stealing the iphone, he stabbed him when he was himself being stabbed in the eye.
BiB - can you direct me to the posts where people are stating that Bradley deserved to die or that it's acceptable him being fatally stabbed for stealing an iPhone? I think you may be creating your very own strawman here.
Bearing in mind that Grant wasn't convicted of murder but culpable homicide, do you understand that Bradley died due to initiating the attack, rather than Grant killing him in a premeditated attack?
Says a lot about justice in this country that those convictions meant nothing to him when he stole a phone and stabbed someone in the eye.
He went looking for the mugger brandishing a lethal weapon. What did the moron think would happen? That they would sit down to tea and the mugger would apologise?
I have no sympathy for the idiot.
Yeah it was pretty dumb really. He was correct in his assumption that Bradley might try to stab him however.
As it is, the man was bloody stupid and now he is paying the price, deservedly so.
Yes, the whole conviction seems to hang on the fact that he used his own knife, and not the mugger's. Same result, but at which the outcome may have been very different for him.