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Katy Perry slams Beyonce / Christina
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Reports going about, not 100% confirmed yet
http://www.banana-bombe.com/2012/11/report-katy-perry-slams-beyonce-and.html
http://www.banana-bombe.com/2012/11/report-katy-perry-slams-beyonce-and.html
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...Is pretty much what her whole point is!!
If it's true, it's not exactly a bad thing what she's said - if you look at Xtina now, she's hardly setting the charts alight at all and Beyoncé's last lot of singles weren't exactly chart toppers either - yet both are two of the biggest stars of the past two decades.
She has a point about writing hits though, although I guess half the time it's either down to 'who/what's cool' or having an amazingly catchy song.
"To conclude, my overall point is yes Christina and Beyonce may not be heavy features on the charts right now but that is not the grand pinnacle of representation for music success. Furthermore, by using those two as examples only highlights them in a way that deems them as less successful than herself, she could have made her point without having to directly use examples."
Katy is more successful NOW, but in 2022 when none of them are successful anymore, I'll look back and see Christina and Beyonce had the bigger hits and were popular for longer (most likely).
Beyonce doesn't get played on the radio because she doesn't do dance music, it's nothing more than that. And if Katy Perry didn't do dance music she wouldn't be on the radio either.
All that said, E.T. was one of the best songs of 2010/2011.
Also, this isn't a big deal. What Katy said isn't anything to get worked up about. Some of the things that rock bands say about other rock bands, or what rappers say about other rappers, it baffles me when fans of pop stars get worked up over the SMALLEST vaguely insulting thing.
All Katy was saying is that they're less successful at the moment. Not that they were less successful period. Beyonce and Christina have had careers that newcomers like Katy and Gaga could only dream of. Katy is just saying to be successful in 2012 you need more than just a "good voice", and she's right, unfortunately. It's not something to read into imo.
Still, that's exactly what Katy's point seems to be. Two massive superstars with great voices haven't done too well in the charts because they haven't gone out of their way to play the marketplace. Whereas Katy pretty much admits that she has.
It wouldn't have made sense for her to use two less famous comparisons, her whole point would have been lost.
BIB: exactly. not having music in the charts doesn't make you a failure or not popular. It just means you aren't making the music "hot right now" Rita Ora has 3 uk #1 singles and album under her belt, but her album isn't shifting near the sales that were expected. She hasn't even been certified in any country it has been released in yet. Sure that was just three months ago, but there are debut albums in the last two years that went gold on just pre orders alone.
4 was one of Beyonce's least promoted albums and definitely had the least amount of hit singles, but it still platinum in 4 countries, gold in three, and sold 310k copies stateside in it's first week. Teenage Dream shifted 192k in it's first week and has been promoted constantly for the last two years.
sooooo, what you are trying to say is that she called herself a sellout? good to know.
i personally don't believe an artist should compromise what they want in order to just sell more records. people will like your music if they want to and you shouldn't have to pander to everyone just to seem like a success. that is, of course, only if you view music as an art form and not just a job, which Katy seems to do.
seems out of nowhere shes consider as unpopular
not in america she didn't. since katy is from here, im guessing she is using that perspective. she had 4 singles in america and none of them cracked the top 15. her last single was UK only and that peaked at 39 on the official chart.
no one is saying she is unpopular. just, not hot at the moment.
Yep, that seems to be pretty much what she said. And I agree with what you say.
Perhaps if she was producing music that wasn't as Linda Perry put it best, musical popcorn, then she would be in a better position to comment.
She may be a million leagues above Christina, but Katy is right that during Beyonce's last album she also wasn't anyway near as hot as Katy herself was either. 4 only sold 2m copies ww, had one UK Top 10 hit and failed to get a single US Top 15 hit, which is a far cry from the era the self confessed radio **** Katy had, which is her whole point; although I don't think mass commercial success was Beyonce's aim with 4 anyway.
that was supposed to be should not, btw haha.
Well yes, that's what she's saying. Pretty much holding her hands up that her music is specifically made for radio, and basically defending herself by saying that she had to in order to gain commercial success.
http://www.billboard.com/features/katy-perry-q-a-billboard-s-woman-of-the-1008032752.story#/features/katy-perry-q-a-billboard-s-woman-of-the-1008032752.story?page=2
This coming from the girl who wrote 'sun kissed skin, so hot we'll melt your popsicle' and "I wanna see your peacock, cock, cock, cock, your peacock, cock, cock,cock, your peacock, cock, cock,cock. I wanna see your peacock, cock, cock, cock, your peacock, cock, cock, cock, your peacock, cock, cock, cock"
I don't see anything wrong with what she said. Maybe not every song, but some of her songs do deal with relationships and deeper issues. They're not all superficial. You're taking a couple of lines out of context, but she has written more emotional songs like Circle the Drain from Teenage Dream.
Not forgetting she is the woman who chose to sing the single most stupid lyric of the past decade, if not longer... "Do you ever feel like a plastic bag" ... Errrrrrrrrrm NO
Not many. Circle The Drain is alright, though the foreplay line makes me cringe every time. I can't help but feel bad for Travis when I hear it, but I think the intention was to show her emotions.
thinking of you,lost, one that got away and wide awake are quite emotional ones too
Actually a great many do and especially on her debut she has a way of writing for me at leastg the perfect POP song it can be sweet and sacchrine but have a basis in saying what she feels its accesible and catchy and thats why they're hits . She has never claimed to be Carol King or Joni Mitchell but a popstar making pop music and considering the likes of Rihanna at leasts he writes her own stuff which is basically what she is saying using Bey and Xtina as examples.
I quite like One that Got Away
But that's just it. The money becomes irrelevant at a certain point. There will always be someone to buy your music if they like it. The star aspect is what she's after.
Lil Kim is in no way a star anymore, but she sold over a million copies of black Friday on PayPal of all things. All that money went straight in her pocket because there was no label involved, no promo, no nothing. Alanis M. is no longer the star she was in the 90s, but she is still selling records without diluting her sound. That is the problem with most of these big name stars like Katy, Xtina, Rihanna etc. They don't have the mindset of even if I'm not a star, I'll make the music I love because I want to. To them, it's I better stay 'relevant' as long as I can because what else is there? Having your name in lights shouldn't be the end all be all IMO. There are old stars who passed their prime so went to writing, producing, whatever just so they can be making music because it's what they love, not because they want everyone to love them for it.
I completely agree that she can write a hell of a pop tune, but I personally can't say that I get a sense of what Katy Perry is all about through her music. There are other pop stars who do that, like Pink. She writes good pop songs and I can tell what she's all about.
Yeah but Lil Kim was a star and made a solid fanbase for herself. Of Course at some point Katy will become irrelevant but she is building a fanbase and making a dent in the market so that down the line she has the option and availibilty to make the music she wants to and sees fit to do so. But she ahs made a sensible and clacualted move as of now to get as big as possible build as big a fanbase in order to do so which without it she will sell little earn little and thats fine for some peope but if your in a position to make a star of yourself why not. At the end of the day i admire her drive and ambition whether it be monetery gain, star power or anything else she wants to be top of the pile and good on her i say. And if all goes well in the future she could sell a 1m records koney in her pocket just like Lil Kim by doing the graft she needs to now.