Absolutely not, she is just dreadful. Worst overacting I've ever seen. Never seen her in anything else but in this she is horrendous.
What I have seen of her she has been really good. I don't see how they can have an ex cop acting so dopey in this? But no doubt we will find out tonight.
It could have been Linus - in the first ep he said he fancied Caitlin, and seemed sure that they would get together, even though she was snogging someone else at the time. I think he killed Hattie so that he could be a shoulder to cry on for Caitlin, and she would then like him more.
A block and tackle and a rope used to hoist the body into the tree.
Also Linus is well dodgy: selling himself on Skype for gifts and money. I checked my recording of part 1 to see if the man was Malcolm. In fact there were two similar scenes with different men, neither of whom was Malcolm. However, it's probable Malcolm was one of his customers and that's what the money was for.
I think the brother who lives in the woods put her in the tree, to stop her getting mauled by wild animals. He said he saw her, and wiped dew from her eyes, so I think he found her.
It'll probably transpire that Caitlin is indeed Hattie in disguise and that the real Caitlin is dead. Or something like that? :rolleyes:
Oooh I think exactly the same. I think the real Hattie said to Caitlin that she could be the May Queen instead of her but as a result was murdered in a case of mistaken identity.
Oooh I think exactly the same. I think the real Hattie said to Caitlin that she could be the May Queen instead of her but as a result was murdered in a case of mistaken identity.
The stones falling are very spooky though. :eek:
Logically, in the last scene where they are falling on her as she lies on the bed, it seemed physically impossible, so it is probably imagined, so one wonders what else is in her head?
The appearance of Linus' mother can be explained as imagined, in the same way.
But the stones seem to be tangible, well, the ones she showed Linus were.
But were they the ones we saw fall on her before?
The stones confuse me too. I thought it was in her imagination, until she showed Linus the stones. So, it's something supernatural? I don't think it's that clear. And what the hell are they suppose to represent? They seem really random, and hope this is one of the loose ends they tie up.
I'm not sure about Catlin. Even though she said she and Hattie weren't close, she didn't seem too bothered about his sister going missing (unless the actress is trying to emote sadness, but doing a bad job of it). Then she hides the message with the sound of Hattie being taken because her parents might hate her for diverting to answerphone? Talk about me! me! me! Give it to the police! Either she really is selfish or got something to hide.
I'm not sure about Fiona either. Her behaviour as the episodes go on is more and more suspect, but I can't really think of a movitve. Don't think it's a crime of passion. Since Hattie was so hung up with Linus' dad I don't think she would have an affair with Fiona's husband, unless NDN doesn't actually mean Next Door Neighbour, but something else pointing to him. Everett did something horrible to Fiona in the past, which she still holds a grudge about, so she decides to stitch him up? That's a bit of a stretch, but I've seen more wacky motives for murder on these kind of shows...
I don't think the Spicer family has got anything to do with the Hattie's murder, and think they're just a sub-story about the unravelling their dysfunctional family, with her death being the trigger.
I find Linus the only really likable character, even if he is vaguely stalkerish, so it's probably going to end up with him being the muderer. His dad is too obvious, and the twist is probably that he's the good guy looking out for his son (in his own warped way) like hi-vis man looking out for his brother. I agree with those who think Seth found Hattie, already dead, and put her in the tree for whatever reason. I don't think Seth killed her.
Anyway, we'll soon find out! Hope the ending is satisfying and not too lame.
Me too. He's in the wrong show. Total caricature even down to the hairdo and snarl. Looks like he should be in Back to the Future or Grease something like that.
Oooh I think exactly the same. I think the real Hattie said to Caitlin that she could be the May Queen instead of her but as a result was murdered in a case of mistaken identity.
The stones falling are very spooky though. :eek:
Well we know Hattie was going to leave, so maybe Caitlin was pretending to be her and covering her being the May Queen, while Hattie did a bunk. Hattie therefore stayed as Caitlin so she wouldn't get murdered again!!
I think the stones falling are in her imagination and she just grabbed some stones to show Linus in a slightly insane way.
Re Linus: There was no need for him to turn up at copper and Mrs ex-copper's house. He said he "had no where to go" but he did - home. Then he 'let slip' all kinds of accusations about his father ... he's def playing the game.
About the money: I assume he was the inside grass for Malcolm on matters relating to his building project. The internet thing with older men is another matter ...
Fwiw, I keep coming back to the daughter seeing the missing girl on her bike and her mother not.
Re Linus: There was no need for him to turn up at copper and Mrs ex-copper's house. He said he "had no where to go" but he did - home. Then he 'let slip' all kinds of accusations about his father ... he's def playing the game.
About the money: I assume he was the inside grass for Malcolm on matters relating to his building project. The internet thing with older men is another matter ...
Fwiw, I keep coming back to the daughter seeing the missing girl on her bike and her mother not.
It seems a bit of a coincidence if the money was intended for someone else called Linus, though doesn't it?
Re Linus: There was no need for him to turn up at copper and Mrs ex-copper's house. He said he "had no where to go" but he did - home. Then he 'let slip' all kinds of accusations about his father ... he's def playing the game.
About the money: I assume he was the inside grass for Malcolm on matters relating to his building project. The internet thing with older men is another matter ...
Fwiw, I keep coming back to the daughter seeing the missing girl on her bike and her mother not.
Re dosh - I did wonder if it was for something else. I thought it was a bit strange that Malcolm would write the name on the envelope, when his wife had access to the safe as well. After all, if it was for sex stuff, surely he'd just leave it blank as he didn't have lots of envelopes with dosh in, he'd know who it was for and if his wife found it, be easier to lie if there was no name.
So did wonder if it was for something not related to Linus and the sex side of things.
A friend of mine has the theory that Caitlin killed her, then disguised herself as Hattie where she was seen on the station.
There may be similar theories, but I haven't read right through.
I think for something that started of quite painful to watch, with loads of OTT sinister looks and a love of filming tree branches while playing spooky music, it has been fun chatting on here about who did it! So where I thought the show might be a bit of a fail, I guess if it gets people chatting regarding who did do it, suppose it can't be too bad!!!!
The stones confuse me too. I thought it was in her imagination, until she showed Linus the stones. So, it's something supernatural? I don't think it's that clear. And what the hell are they suppose to represent? They seem really random, and hope this is one of the loose ends they tie up.
I'm not sure about Catlin. Even though she said she and Hattie weren't close, she didn't seem too bothered about his sister going missing (unless the actress is trying to emote sadness, but doing a bad job of it). Then she hides the message with the sound of Hattie being taken because her parents might hate her for diverting to answerphone? Talk about me! me! me! Give it to the police! Either she really is selfish or got something to hide.
I'm not sure about Fiona either. Her behaviour as the episodes go on is more and more suspect, but I can't really think of a movitve. Don't think it's a crime of passion. Since Hattie was so hung up with Linus' dad I don't think she would have an affair with Fiona's husband, unless NDN doesn't actually mean Next Door Neighbour, but something else pointing to him. Everett did something horrible to Fiona in the past, which she still holds a grudge about, so she decides to stitch him up? That's a bit of a stretch, but I've seen more wacky motives for murder on these kind of shows...
I don't think the Spicer family has got anything to do with the Hattie's murder, and think they're just a sub-story about the unravelling their dysfunctional family, with her death being the trigger.
I find Linus the only really likable character, even if he is vaguely stalkerish, so it's probably going to end up with him being the muderer. His dad is too obvious, and the twist is probably that he's the good guy looking out for his son (in his own warped way) like hi-vis man looking out for his brother. I agree with those who think Seth found Hattie, already dead, and put her in the tree for whatever reason. I don't think Seth killed her.
Anyway, we'll soon find out! Hope the ending is satisfying and not too lame.
why did fiona say to charlotte that they did not see hattie? Alot of loose ends to be tied up tonight, I am going to sky plus it in case I get confused.
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She was nominated for an Oscar for her performance in Hotel Rwanda.
I think she is playing the part well, I don't think we are meant to like her character at all.
Ooooo now there's a thought :eek:
What I have seen of her she has been really good. I don't see how they can have an ex cop acting so dopey in this? But no doubt we will find out tonight.
The ending had better be good :mad:
No. that would be just silly. It was obviously the American actor Mario Van Peebles.
Also Linus is well dodgy: selling himself on Skype for gifts and money. I checked my recording of part 1 to see if the man was Malcolm. In fact there were two similar scenes with different men, neither of whom was Malcolm. However, it's probable Malcolm was one of his customers and that's what the money was for.
My thoughts too, one sister killed the other and then switched identities.
Oooh I think exactly the same. I think the real Hattie said to Caitlin that she could be the May Queen instead of her but as a result was murdered in a case of mistaken identity.
The stones falling are very spooky though. :eek:
Logically, in the last scene where they are falling on her as she lies on the bed, it seemed physically impossible, so it is probably imagined, so one wonders what else is in her head?
The appearance of Linus' mother can be explained as imagined, in the same way.
But the stones seem to be tangible, well, the ones she showed Linus were.
But were they the ones we saw fall on her before?
I'm not sure about Catlin. Even though she said she and Hattie weren't close, she didn't seem too bothered about his sister going missing (unless the actress is trying to emote sadness, but doing a bad job of it). Then she hides the message with the sound of Hattie being taken because her parents might hate her for diverting to answerphone? Talk about me! me! me! Give it to the police! Either she really is selfish or got something to hide.
I'm not sure about Fiona either. Her behaviour as the episodes go on is more and more suspect, but I can't really think of a movitve. Don't think it's a crime of passion. Since Hattie was so hung up with Linus' dad I don't think she would have an affair with Fiona's husband, unless NDN doesn't actually mean Next Door Neighbour, but something else pointing to him. Everett did something horrible to Fiona in the past, which she still holds a grudge about, so she decides to stitch him up? That's a bit of a stretch, but I've seen more wacky motives for murder on these kind of shows...
I don't think the Spicer family has got anything to do with the Hattie's murder, and think they're just a sub-story about the unravelling their dysfunctional family, with her death being the trigger.
I find Linus the only really likable character, even if he is vaguely stalkerish, so it's probably going to end up with him being the muderer. His dad is too obvious, and the twist is probably that he's the good guy looking out for his son (in his own warped way) like hi-vis man looking out for his brother. I agree with those who think Seth found Hattie, already dead, and put her in the tree for whatever reason. I don't think Seth killed her.
Anyway, we'll soon find out! Hope the ending is satisfying and not too lame.
That was my initial thought, and given Hattie would babysit for Fiona maybe there is a connection to her after all.
He did remind me of Biff in Back to the Future!!
Yeah he is not really sinister or weird at all!! Must be him
Well we know Hattie was going to leave, so maybe Caitlin was pretending to be her and covering her being the May Queen, while Hattie did a bunk. Hattie therefore stayed as Caitlin so she wouldn't get murdered again!!
I think the stones falling are in her imagination and she just grabbed some stones to show Linus in a slightly insane way.
About the money: I assume he was the inside grass for Malcolm on matters relating to his building project. The internet thing with older men is another matter ...
Fwiw, I keep coming back to the daughter seeing the missing girl on her bike and her mother not.
It seems a bit of a coincidence if the money was intended for someone else called Linus, though doesn't it?
Good theory. Linus the spy.
Agree...i think she's supposed to be dislikeable too...looks and everything
Re dosh - I did wonder if it was for something else. I thought it was a bit strange that Malcolm would write the name on the envelope, when his wife had access to the safe as well. After all, if it was for sex stuff, surely he'd just leave it blank as he didn't have lots of envelopes with dosh in, he'd know who it was for and if his wife found it, be easier to lie if there was no name.
So did wonder if it was for something not related to Linus and the sex side of things.
Thanks.
There may be similar theories, but I haven't read right through.
why did fiona say to charlotte that they did not see hattie? Alot of loose ends to be tied up tonight, I am going to sky plus it in case I get confused.