It's a lot of rubbish isn't it? Knee jerk reactions by people with inflated senses of their own importance. It's not as if these refugees will come and stay a couple of days. It's going to be years. They will have to be fed and clothed. Bills will be more expensive with more people in the house. Do people really think they will get money from councils to keep people in their spare rented rooms? After a few weeks or months when they want their home backmor realise they have people they don't like living in their homes what do they do? Ask for a swap? Ask them to go and live on the streets? Because there will be nowhere else if all the council houses and shelters are full of other Syrian refugees. I don't believe for a second that when faced with the reality of the situation, there will be people queuing up to extend a welcome to strangers into their houses.
I am a homeowner and have a spare room. Not be m not be getting it out to people I known both ng about to come and live.
What a lovely idea. I would like to propose that any volunteers who miss out on the opportunity to adopt a Syrian be given the opportunity to adopt a homeless person instead.
Charity is for life - not just for bragging rights.
That's the Twitterati and FB clan for you. I bet they're all clamouring to be the first to post a picture with their syrian family....;-)
I can hear all the cringy, sickly sweet heart warming "likes" to those photos if they ever happened, which of course they won't, because in the real world, the vast majority will not and could not open their front door to a whole family and the fact that they prob don't speak english would be the least of their problems.
It's so funny to think that now people have to jump through hopos to adopt and foster babies and kids that are waiting for a home right now in the UK, but yet doors are seemingly to be flung open in a welcome to strangers to your home?
There was quite a funny story on BBC Breakfast a few weeks ago about a family that took in a refugee in Calais. They had a 20 year old daughter and he'd make comments about how she was dressed inappropriately and ought to be married by now. They put it down to "cultural differences".
Apart from the £900million we've already poured into the refugee camps, you mean? That's pretty much more than the rest of Europe put together.
Eh, we're also far richer than anyone other than Germany so that doesn't mean much, and we were directly involved with the area in the first place. I'm sure if Cameron could pay to not have any refugees he'd happily cough up a lot more.
Have you read any Guardian comment sections recently? Your eminently sensible suggestions would have you howled down as an uncaring racist.
Sometimes I'm actually embarrassed to read the damn thing
Yes, I have already had some spirited discussions with friends over this. Being a liberal is all very well, and I am very liberal in social matters, but there is a point where caring must be tempered with common sense. If the issue is people dying then why continue to enable the journeys that are killing them? If the conditions in Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan (and inside Syria itself) are so bad, why spend £10000 a head (or whatever it is) on bringing and maintaining someone in the UK when you can spend the same amount and help ten+ people have a better quality of life closer to home and help them to (hopefully) return at some point?
Eh, we're also far richer than anyone other than Germany so that doesn't mean much, and we were directly involved with the area in the first place. I'm sure Cameron could pay to not have any refugees he'd happily cough up a lot more.
We're not really because despite being in debt we're having to borrow money.
Where have you got this 'change of faith' from? Like UK, Germany is predominantly Christian but Islam is the second largest faith in the country. Just because someone relocates to another country doesn't mean they change their religious faith.
So converting from Islam to Christianity isn't changing faith?
There was quite a funny story on BBC Breakfast a few weeks ago about a family that took in a refugee in Calais. They had a 20 year old daughter and he'd make comments about how she was dressed inappropriately and ought to be married by now. They put it down to "cultural differences".
Yes, I have already had some spirited discussions with friends over this. Being a liberal is all very well, and I am very liberal in social matters, but there is a point where caring must be tempered with common sense. If the issue is people dying then why continue to enable the journeys that are killing them? If the conditions in Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan (and inside Syria itself) are so bad, why spend £10000 a head (or whatever it is) on bringing and maintaining someone in the UK when you can spend the same amount and help ten+ people have a better quality of life closer to home and help them to (hopefully) return at some point?
Well yes, I completely agree with you but you know the saying 'keep your mind open but not so open that your brains fall out'.
Imo, there are a lot of people walking around with empty heads right now.
Years ago I was in a house share with a turkish born but German citizen. He was a muslim
He told me about his 'friend' who was unable to stand in the same room as a beautiful woman and was generally going on about girls dressing provocatively.
He also was rather angry about British invasion and we had a heated argument.
Shame because away from politics he was quite a funny bloke
Yes, I have already had some spirited discussions with friends over this. Being a liberal is all very well, and I am very liberal in social matters, but there is a point where caring must be tempered with common sense. If the issue is people dying then why continue to enable the journeys that are killing them? If the conditions in Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan (and inside Syria itself) are so bad, why spend £10000 a head (or whatever it is) on bringing and maintaining someone in the UK when you can spend the same amount and help ten+ people have a better quality of life closer to home and help them to (hopefully) return at some point?
Turning the table around and looking at the long term future, if you were Syrian would you seriously want to go back to live there? There are hardly any buildings left standing.....apart from Assads palace. I wonder if his British in-laws still holiday there?
Thankfully, all those violent young men have miraculously disappeared & have been replaced by photogenic young professional couples with cute kids. :kitty:
Same here. The Headmaster ran the school and ruled it with a rod of iron. Firm but fair would be the best description. We had a uniform and it was as strict as my sisters school. Well run, well disciplined.
You're going to love this thread but more so the replies from Bill Clinton and a couple of others
So converting from Islam to Christianity isn't changing faith?
Who is? That's what i'm asking. Has it now suddenly become a compulsory requirement for all Syrians refugees of Muslim faith to convert? Germany already has a resident population of Muslims. Whilst they don't have full official state recognition of their faith, it doesn't stop them being resident.
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I am a homeowner and have a spare room. Not be m not be getting it out to people I known both ng about to come and live.
I can hear all the cringy, sickly sweet heart warming "likes" to those photos if they ever happened, which of course they won't, because in the real world, the vast majority will not and could not open their front door to a whole family and the fact that they prob don't speak english would be the least of their problems.
It's so funny to think that now people have to jump through hopos to adopt and foster babies and kids that are waiting for a home right now in the UK, but yet doors are seemingly to be flung open in a welcome to strangers to your home?
Apart from the £900million we've already poured into the refugee camps, you mean? That's pretty much more than the rest of Europe put together.
After all they've already been through too.
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to 6,000
then 10,000
now 20,000
and the likelihood is more like 1 million.
Eh, we're also far richer than anyone other than Germany so that doesn't mean much, and we were directly involved with the area in the first place. I'm sure if Cameron could pay to not have any refugees he'd happily cough up a lot more.
Troll or WUM?
Please discuss.
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Yes, I have already had some spirited discussions with friends over this. Being a liberal is all very well, and I am very liberal in social matters, but there is a point where caring must be tempered with common sense. If the issue is people dying then why continue to enable the journeys that are killing them? If the conditions in Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan (and inside Syria itself) are so bad, why spend £10000 a head (or whatever it is) on bringing and maintaining someone in the UK when you can spend the same amount and help ten+ people have a better quality of life closer to home and help them to (hopefully) return at some point?
The world needs to act, and fast. I don't think I can take Do they know it's Christmas V19.0
So converting from Islam to Christianity isn't changing faith?
Can't control his trouser snake?
That is his problem not hers
Well yes, I completely agree with you but you know the saying 'keep your mind open but not so open that your brains fall out'.
Imo, there are a lot of people walking around with empty heads right now.
He told me about his 'friend' who was unable to stand in the same room as a beautiful woman and was generally going on about girls dressing provocatively.
He also was rather angry about British invasion and we had a heated argument.
Shame because away from politics he was quite a funny bloke
That is from the resettlement program. 5000 Syrians have claimed asylum in the country.
You're going to love this thread but more so the replies from Bill Clinton and a couple of others
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=79535332#post79535332