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Iain Dale Clobbering Jeremy Corbyn on LBC Radio Just Now

NosediveNosedive Posts: 6,602
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In the Labour leaders hustings debate by asking:

"What qualifies you as a leader and to be a prime minister."

In the struggle to answer the best he could do was to declare his experience as a select committee leader in 1978 on in Harringay local authority with a budget of 'a couple of hundred thousand".

Iain then accused him of not being ambitious enough after being a labour MP since 1983 and never having left the back benches.

He really wasn't very impressive. At least Yvette Cooper responded to the same question by saying she'd run a multi million pound department in a previous cabinet.
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    MARTYM8MARTYM8 Posts: 44,710
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    Tony Blair and David Cameron had never run anything before becoming PM. Having no relevant experience seems to be part of the person spec.
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    ustarionustarion Posts: 20,322
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    MARTYM8 wrote: »
    Tony Blair and David Cameron had never run anything before becoming PM. Having no relevant experience seems to be part of the person spec.

    They had the best experience they could in the Shadow Cabinet.

    Corbyn has never served in any government or shadow government. EVER.
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    NosediveNosedive Posts: 6,602
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    I suppose being 60+ in age means at least Jeremy has a lot of life experience.

    Tony Blair was what, about forty when he became party leader, and Cameron probably a bit less - late thirties maybe. Neither were that old really.
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    DotheboyshallDotheboyshall Posts: 40,583
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    ustarion wrote: »
    They had the best experience they could in the Shadow Cabinet.
    Why is that good?
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    AristaeusAristaeus Posts: 9,974
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    Nosedive wrote: »
    In the Labour leaders hustings debate by asking:

    "What qualifies you as a leader and to be a prime minister."

    In the struggle to answer the best he could do was to declare his experience as a select committee leader in 1978 on in Harringay local authority with a budget of 'a couple of hundred thousand".

    Iain then accused him of not being ambitious enough after being a labour MP since 1983 and never having left the back benches.

    He really wasn't very impressive. At least Yvette Cooper responded to the same question by saying she'd run a multi million pound department in a previous cabinet.

    Gordon Brown was chancellor for 10 years and turned out to be a pretty bad PM.
    I don't think there's any correlation. PM is a pretty unique job role.
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    ustarionustarion Posts: 20,322
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    Why is that good?

    Having experience is always preferable to not.
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    TomWhittonTomWhitton Posts: 1,465
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    Don't remember Cameron ever being asked that question.
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    ustarionustarion Posts: 20,322
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    TomWhitton wrote: »
    Don't remember Cameron ever being asked that question.

    Cameron was in the shadow cabinet.
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    culturemancultureman Posts: 11,701
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    Nosedive wrote: »
    In the Labour leaders hustings debate by asking:

    "What qualifies you as a leader and to be a prime minister."

    In the struggle to answer the best he could do was to declare his experience as a select committee leader in 1978 on in Harringay local authority with a budget of 'a couple of hundred thousand".

    Iain then accused him of not being ambitious enough after being a labour MP since 1983 and never having left the back benches.

    He really wasn't very impressive. At least Yvette Cooper responded to the same question by saying she'd run a multi million pound department in a previous cabinet.

    How odd. Didn't hear original 4 way debate but am currently listening to listeners feedback phone in on who won.

    Pretty much every single caller and text to the programme says Corbyn won by the proverbial country mile.
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    niceguy1966niceguy1966 Posts: 29,560
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    ustarion wrote: »
    Cameron was in the shadow cabinet.

    Being in the shadow cabinet doesn't give you any experience that would be useful. That's like saying a film reviewer has experience of film direction.
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    Being in the shadow cabinet doesn't give you any experience that would be useful. That's like saying a film reviewer has experience of film direction.

    Of course it does. It gives you access to ministries and allows you to gain knowledge of how government works.
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    Mark_Jones9Mark_Jones9 Posts: 12,728
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    As the party leader chooses who gets to be in the cabinet does the argument that you should have the experience of being a cabinet member before running for leader amount to a argument for cronyism especially if referring to shadow cabinet positions as they do not entail being in charge of a government department.
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    MartinPMartinP Posts: 31,358
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    I hope they put it on their website so I can listen to it
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    Steve9214Steve9214 Posts: 8,406
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckBtOv0LTKE

    Never stopped Ed - he was almost proud he had never had a "proper" job
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    TomWhittonTomWhitton Posts: 1,465
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    ustarion wrote: »
    Cameron was in the shadow cabinet.

    So what?
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    DotheboyshallDotheboyshall Posts: 40,583
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    Of course it does. It gives you access to ministries and allows you to gain knowledge of how government works.
    And be indoctrinated in their ways.
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    LandisLandis Posts: 14,859
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    cultureman wrote: »
    How odd. Didn't hear original 4 way debate but am currently listening to listeners feedback phone in on who won.

    Pretty much every single caller and text to the programme says Corbyn won by the proverbial country mile.

    I heard it. Did not watch it.

    Is it possible to clobber someone as you are reading out a long Love Letter to them??
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    DotheboyshallDotheboyshall Posts: 40,583
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    Landis wrote: »
    Is it possible to clobber someone as you are reading out a long Love Letter to them??
    Depends if you like a bit of rough or not
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    MartinPMartinP Posts: 31,358
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    Steve9214 wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckBtOv0LTKE

    Never stopped Ed - he was almost proud he had never had a "proper" job

    Wow that was pretty desperate. Who was that guy talking?
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    NosediveNosedive Posts: 6,602
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    cultureman wrote: »
    How odd. Didn't hear original 4 way debate but am currently listening to listeners feedback phone in on who won.

    Pretty much every single caller and text to the programme says Corbyn won by the proverbial country mile.

    Yes, the more callers I heard saying Corbyn was the winner and how he seemed able to speak his mind, the more convinced I was that they'd fallen for the 'Farage' affect. He can speak his mind and communicate more freely because he doesn't have a party line to adhere to like the others.

    The question should have been 'never mind if he was the winner, would you vote for his policies?' When they posed this question at the end, one woman, a green party voter in Streatham, said no she wouldn't and the final caller, a bloke who also thought Corbyn was the winner said no as he was a conservative voter!
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    SpouthouseSpouthouse Posts: 1,046
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    cultureman wrote: »
    How odd. Didn't hear original 4 way debate but am currently listening to listeners feedback phone in on who won.

    Pretty much every single caller and text to the programme says Corbyn won by the proverbial country mile.

    I listened to the debate and would agree that Corbyn came across the best, mainly because he was the only one who didn't try to dodge the questions. The others just did that boring old thing of refusing to be decisive in case somebody at some point in the future holds them to an actual opinion.

    I think Corbyn would be a disaster for the Labour party and certainly for the country, but it is quite refreshing to hear somebody in politics who actually believes what they say.
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    NosediveNosedive Posts: 6,602
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    Spouthouse wrote: »
    I listened to the debate and would agree that Corbyn came across the best, mainly because he was the only one who didn't try to dodge the questions. The others just did that boring old thing of refusing to be decisive in case somebody at some point in the future holds them to an actual opinion.

    I think Corbyn would be a disaster for the Labour party and certainly for the country, but it is quite refreshing to hear somebody in politics who actually believes what they say.

    The Farage affect. Jeremy Corbyn, the left's answer to Nigel Farage.
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    DotheboyshallDotheboyshall Posts: 40,583
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    Nosedive wrote: »
    The Farage affect. Jeremy Corbyn, the left's answer to Nigel Farage.
    Apparently Nigel from Kent rang in
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    NosediveNosedive Posts: 6,602
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    Apparently Nigel from Kent rang in

    He did indeed. He rang in quite early on to ask how they'd each vote in a referendum to leave europe. Corbyn was a disgrace. He waffled away but wouldn't answer the question.
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    deptfordbakerdeptfordbaker Posts: 22,368
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    Apparently Nigel from Kent rang in

    Just listened to it.

    http://www.lbc.co.uk/nigel-farage-asks-question-in-labour-debate-113371

    Quite entertaining.
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