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Favourite War Films?

goldberry1goldberry1 Posts: 2,699
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Because I didn't learn much about either WW1 or WW2 at school I really like (if that's the right word) war films. I'm usually quite a girly female.

Some of my favourites are Valkyrie, Saving Private Ryan, The Longest Day and one about the Battle of the Bulge (?) where a U.S. General is supposed to have replied 'Nuts' to calls for surrender, Battle of Britain, the Douglas Bader film and the Great Escape.

I wondered if other people liked such films or are they a bit old fashioned now,
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    Johnny ClayJohnny Clay Posts: 5,328
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    Though not as regular on the release calender as perhaps it once was, war has provided us with some of the best cinema there's been.

    On the one hand you can have serious, artistic masterpieces that look head-on at the brutality, inhumanity and consequences of it all (All Quiet on the Western Front, Paths of Glory, Come and See, The Deer Hunter etc).

    And on the other you can have hokey wartime action/adventure, full of rat-a-tat machine guns and comic book nazis (Where Eagles Dare etc).

    Old-fashioned be damned. They're both fine with me.
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    Ancient IDTVAncient IDTV Posts: 10,175
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    Quite a few.

    Also a few favourite tv series.......

    Colditz (1972)
    Band of Brothers
    Danger UXB
    Secret Army
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    Eddie BadgerEddie Badger Posts: 6,005
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    Serious war movie: Paths of Glory
    Fun war movie: Where Eagles Dare
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    Sam_Williams1Sam_Williams1 Posts: 338
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    Bat 21
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    necromancer20necromancer20 Posts: 2,548
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    Paths of Glory
    The Thin Red Line
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,003
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    For some of us the films were what we saw when we were kids, so watching them again is fun and nostalgia at the same time. You also need to realise that we went to the cinema weekly, and often there were two films on in a show, so war films were scattered everywhere. It was still a post-war world well into the 1960s, so gung-ho patriotic films hadn't been overtaken by 'MASH' and 'Catch-22' yet.

    I remember seeing 'Battle of the Bulge' on the biggest screen I've ever seen - saw 'Lawrence of Arabia' there the following week and that has never left me either.

    Leaving the usual airforce stuff and general war films, I'll just add that submarine films were a great sub-genre that gets ignored these days: 'Run silent, run deep' and 'We dive at dawn', and the naval movies: 'Sink the Scharnhorst' and Nicholas Monserrat adaptations - 'The Cruel Sea' and 'The Ship that Died of Shame'
    A personal favourite that never gets shown any more: 'Murphy's War' - and I've just remembered tv's 'The Desert Rats'

    For me though the best war movie ever is 'Ice Cold in Alex'. It makes me want a beer right now :D
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    goldberry1goldberry1 Posts: 2,699
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    For some of us the films were what we saw when we were kids, so watching them again is fun and nostalgia at the same time. You also need to realise that we went to the cinema weekly, and often there were two films on in a show, so war films were scattered everywhere. It was still a post-war world well into the 1960s, so gung-ho patriotic films hadn't been overtaken by 'MASH' and 'Catch-22' yet.

    I remember seeing 'Battle of the Bulge' on the biggest screen I've ever seen - saw 'Lawrence of Arabia' there the following week and that has never left me either.

    Leaving the usual airforce stuff and general war films, I'll just add that submarine films were a great sub-genre that gets ignored these days: 'Run silent, run deep' and 'We dive at dawn', and the naval movies: 'Sink the Scharnhorst' and Nicholas Monserrat adaptations - 'The Cruel Sea' and 'The Ship that Died of Shame'
    A personal favourite that never gets shown any more: 'Murphy's War' - and I've just remembered tv's 'The Desert Rats'

    For me though the best war movie ever is 'Ice Cold in Alex'. It makes me want a beer right now :D

    Aha! I forgot that one - John Mills so great!
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    MidsblueMidsblue Posts: 233
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    Escape to Victory but Saving Private Ryan tops the lot
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    TeeGeeTeeGee Posts: 5,772
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    Before I opened this thread I too wa going to nominate Ice Cold in Alex. Also taking place in wartime but without direct action Casablanca takes some beating.

    Apocalypse Now is a good take on Vietnam probably the first war to get regular TV coverage and some of the photo journalists deserved medals for their honest depiction of the horrors.

    My late father said that nothing could ever show the true nature of war in the form of entertainment but the opening scene in Private Ryan must have come close.

    (An afterthought - Das Boot. Tension throughout and a finale you just did not see coming)
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    BastardBeaverBastardBeaver Posts: 11,903
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    I grew up in a military family and all my father and brother ever seemed to watch were war films. So I sort of started to resent that a bit.

    However, I LOVE Full Metal Jacket and am looking forward to Fury.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 971
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    personally i prefer prisoner of war films but 'we were soldiers' is one of my favourites. not ww1/2 mind.
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    goldberry1goldberry1 Posts: 2,699
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    TeeGee wrote: »
    Before I opened this thread I too wa going to nominate Ice Cold in Alex. Also taking place in wartime but without direct action Casablanca takes some beating.

    Apocalypse Now is a good take on Vietnam probably the first war to get regular TV coverage and some of the photo journalists deserved medals for their honest depiction of the horrors.

    My late father said that nothing could ever show the true nature of war in the form of entertainment but the opening scene in Private Ryan must have come close.

    (An afterthought - Das Boot. Tension throughout and a finale you just did not see coming)

    I watched it properly from the beginning just lately on TV and confess it was difficult to watch as they landed on Omaha Beach but I stuck with it though it was hard. I'm glad I watched the film the whole way through - excellent, and thought provoking.
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    mike65mike65 Posts: 11,386
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    Midsblue wrote: »
    Escape to Victory but Saving Private Ryan tops the lot

    I like the contrast! :D

    An incomplete list.

    Von Ryans Express
    Kelly's Heroes
    Where Eagles Dare
    The Bridge at Remargen
    Sink the Bismark!
    The Dam Busters (just such a shame the climax features the worst SFX ever)
    The Train
    The McKenzie Break
    Night of the Generals

    I find the really long films tend to disappoint in the end (sore bum syndrome)
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    mgvsmithmgvsmith Posts: 16,458
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    TeeGee wrote: »
    Apocalypse Now is a good take on Vietnam probably the first war to get regular TV coverage and some of the photo journalists deserved medals for their honest depiction of the horrors.

    My late father said that nothing could ever show the true nature of war in the form of entertainment but the opening scene in Private Ryan must have come close.

    Apocalypse Now along with Platoon are probably the best Vietnam movies. I don't think The Deer hunter is as good.

    Dr. Strangelove is an excellent cold war movie satire. And Schindler's List would be my favourite WWII movie.
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    Rodney McKayRodney McKay Posts: 8,143
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    goldberry1 wrote: »
    Because I didn't learn much about either WW1 or WW2 at school I really like (if that's the right word) war films. I'm usually quite a girly female.

    Some of my favourites are Valkyrie, Saving Private Ryan, The Longest Day and one about the Battle of the Bulge (?) where a U.S. General is supposed to have replied 'Nuts' to calls for surrender, Battle of Britain, the Douglas Bader film and the Great Escape.

    I wondered if other people liked such films or are they a bit old fashioned now,

    If you've never seen The Cruel Sea then I would recommend that. One of the greatest British war movies ever, not jingoistic unlike most American films and the book is a good read as well.
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    QuixoticQuixotic Posts: 668
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    Hope and glory
    Winter in Wartime
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    farmer bobfarmer bob Posts: 27,595
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    Downfall - German movie, gives an insight into Hitler and the Third Reich's last days. Brilliant, tense, horrific.
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    intruder2kintruder2k Posts: 318
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    The Front Line
    Dark of the Sun
    The Flowers of War
    Welcome to Dongmakgol
    71 Into the Fire
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    Inglourious Basterds
    Musa, the Warrior
    Black Book
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    dee123dee123 Posts: 46,274
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    I think Saving Private Ryan is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo overrated. So glad the apple cart got upset and it didn't win best picture. My top ten would be in no real order:

    The Thin Red Line
    Apocalypse Now
    Platoon
    The Great Escape
    Enemy At The Gates
    Full Metal Jacket
    The Bridge Over The River Kwai
    We Were Soldiers
    Inglourious Basterds
    Breaker Morant
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    Ancient IDTVAncient IDTV Posts: 10,175
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    Ten I particularly like:-

    Sea of Sand
    Stalag 17
    The Great Escape
    A Bridge Too Far
    The Dirty Dozen
    Attack (1956) - Eddie Albert and Jack Palance are great in this one.
    Where Eagles Dare
    Battle of Britain
    Paths of Glory

    but my favourite is......

    The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp - Which takes place over a forty year time span.
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    Mark AMark A Posts: 7,692
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    Cross Of Iron is worth a look.

    Regards

    Mark
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    Eddie BadgerEddie Badger Posts: 6,005
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    Mark A wrote: »
    Cross Of Iron is worth a look.

    Regards

    Mark

    Great movie
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    The Dirty Dozen
    Stalag 17
    Von Ryan's Express
    The Great Escape
    Platoon
    Ice Cold in Alex
    Band of Brothers
    The Pacific
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    GortGort Posts: 7,467
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    Not a favourite genre of mine, but as long as the film presents something different to the usual tropes, then I'm game. I think all of these have been mentioned, but I'll just add to the noise:

    All Quiet on the Western Front
    Paths of Glory
    The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
    Downfall
    Das Boot
    Come and See
    The Bridge on the River Kwai
    Ice Cold in Alex
    Cross of Iron
    Stalingrad
    Dr Strangelove
    Black Book
    Gallipoli
    Valkyrie
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    goldberry1goldberry1 Posts: 2,699
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    farmer bob wrote: »
    Downfall - German movie, gives an insight into Hitler and the Third Reich's last days. Brilliant, tense, horrific.

    I agree - very good film. I've read some stuff by people who were in the bunker then including Traudl Junge's account. Downfall was how I imagined it, mostly.

    One thing that got me thinking though - I've heard a recording of Hitler's conversational voice which was actually a warm baritone - I know he used to have horrific temper tantrums, ranting and raving. I think maybe his day to day voice, as opposed to his speech making one, could be gentler and obviously persuasive as some people who met him thought he was a nice guy and a good boss :confused: I notice the actor kept Hitler's speaking voice quite harsh.

    I read something by the (Swiss?) actor who played Hitler in Downfall - asked about Hitler's voice he said he had a definite Austrian accent mixed with military German.
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