Would independence guarantee the end of Waterloo Road as presumably the BBC would not be making programmes in Scotland any more ?
Possibly, but I'm sure the BBC & SBS would have some deal in place, Waterloo Road is suffering low ratings as of late so it wouldn't surprise me but if they did SBS might keep it and make it more Scottish as Scotland has a different education system
I wonder if the Krankies of even Subo will come south of the border or if they will stay in Scotland. Standard Life even could quit Scotland on a "yes" vote
Is that the two Krankies from TV or the two Krankies from the Edinburgh government?
Personally I find it frustrating that broadcast journalists tried to hijack the serious independence debate a few months ago by bleating that if Scotland goes independent the Scots will lose Strictly Come Dancing and Eastenders.
I really don't see any logical reason why at least the popular shows wouldn't be sold by BBCW to a Scottish broadcaster - either a new national PSB or a commercial channel. I'm fairly sure I've seen Eastenders shown on RTE in Ireland before, so why would a similar deal not be done in an independent Scotland? The Scottish get a program to fill the schedules for less than the cost of commissioning it themselves, and the rest of us get a bit of extra cash in the Beeb's budget to allow them to invest into new programs.
But this is still an issue that needs sorting, and one that will affect most people personally, whereas there are a lot of issues that will have little or no effect on the people's lives.
Oh please, when Edinburgh, Glasgow and the Outer Hebrides get to see Eastenders has to be the most pathetic excuse for an independence debate ever.
Let's be clear - it is the Britsh Broadcasting Corporation. In the case of a split, Scotland will still be part of Britain if not the United Kingdom. So the status quo would prevail. Simplez!!
I really don't see any logical reason why at least the popular shows wouldn't be sold by BBCW to a Scottish broadcaster - either a new national PSB or a commercial channel. I'm fairly sure I've seen Eastenders shown on RTE in Ireland before, so why would a similar deal not be done in an independent Scotland? The Scottish get a program to fill the schedules for less than the cost of commissioning it themselves, and the rest of us get a bit of extra cash in the Beeb's budget to allow them to invest into new programs.
But do RTE get the range of programmes that we get on BBC1, BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, CBBC and CBeebies? Being able to afford to buy a few programme could still be a loss of many others one that many enjoy.
Oh please, when Edinburgh, Glasgow and the Outer Hebrides get to see Eastenders has to be the most pathetic excuse for an independence debate ever.
It is just one small part of the many things that will change or be lost. Salmond is going around trying to give the impression that there will be no change to all the popular programmes.
It is just one small part of the many things that will change or be lost. Salmond is going around trying to give the impression that there will be no change to all the popular programmes.
It won't be lost though. If anyone's really that bothered they just get themselves a Freesat box. I imagine there's plenty hitting eBay right now from all the ex-pats in Spain. Might be worth getting one cheap before the rush
Oh please, when Edinburgh, Glasgow and the Outer Hebrides get to see Eastenders has to be the most pathetic excuse for an independence debate ever.
Pathetic? How TV is going to work in an independent Scotland is hardly pathetic, and it is a subject that is far more likely to affect those living in Scotland personally, unlike some things which will only affect them indirectly. It may not be the most important of matters that need to be addressed should Scotland go independent, but it still needs addressing.
It doesn't need a debate, just clear information stating what will happen, not what they hope to happen.
Let's be clear - it is the Britsh Broadcasting Corporation. In the case of a split, Scotland will still be part of Britain if not the United Kingdom. So the status quo would prevail. Simplez!!
Whilst yes, Scotland will still be part of the British Isles should they vote for independence, they would no longer be part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The island of Ireland is regarded as part of the British Isles, however it is not part of Great Britain... confused, try this graphic...
From a broadcasting point of view, the BBC would regard an independent Scotland the same way it does the Republic of Ireland or France. It would be a foreign territory with which we border.
The rights the BBC own are to broadcast IIRC to the United Kingdom of Great Britain. Should Scotland leave that, the BBC would not have the rights, nor the licence, to broadcast in Scotland as it would be a completely different nation compared to the rest of the UK. Sadly not so "simplez". ;-)
I'm assuming it means "rest of the UK" or words to that effect?
On that basis - IF Scotland leaves the union, the UK will still exist, Scotland will not be part of it. Therefore, It will simply remain "The UK" and, as a consequences, requires no prefix.
I can see this becoming a bugbear very quickly.
Well the UK is short for 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'.
The United Kingdoms in question being Scotland and England, and 'Great Britain' being the name of the whole island. So I can see some tweaking of the name will be required.
Arguably Ireland was declared to be a Kingdom for a short period, and is included in the united Kingdoms bit, so the short form 'UK' could just about be got away with. But you could hardly call it Great Britain if it didn't cover the whole island?
Whilst yes, Scotland will still be part of the British Isles should they vote for independence, they would no longer be part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The island of Ireland is regarded as part of the British Isles, however it is not part of Great Britain... confused, try this graphic...
From a broadcasting point of view, the BBC would regard an independent Scotland the same way it does the Republic of Ireland or France. It would be a foreign territory with which we border.
The rights the BBC own are to broadcast IIRC to the United Kingdom of Great Britain. Should Scotland leave that, the BBC would not have the rights, nor the licence, to broadcast in Scotland as it would be a completely different nation compared to the rest of the UK. Sadly not so "simplez". ;-)
The BBC is a public service paid for by Scottish tv licence fees if they do not wish to broadcast in Scotland no more tv licence fees from Scotland. simples.:D
Whilst yes, Scotland will still be part of the British Isles should they vote for independence, they would no longer be part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The island of Ireland is regarded as part of the British Isles, however it is not part of Great Britain... confused, try this graphic...
From a broadcasting point of view, the BBC would regard an independent Scotland the same way it does the Republic of Ireland or France. It would be a foreign territory with which we border.
The rights the BBC own are to broadcast IIRC to the United Kingdom of Great Britain. Should Scotland leave that, the BBC would not have the rights, nor the licence, to broadcast in Scotland as it would be a completely different nation compared to the rest of the UK. Sadly not so "simplez". ;-)
The BBC is a public service paid for by Scottish tv licence fees to, if they do not wish to broadcast in Scotland no more tv licence fees from Scotland. simples.:D
Well the UK is short for 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'.
The United Kingdoms in question being Scotland and England, and 'Great Britain' being the name of the whole island. So I can see some tweaking of the name will be required.
Arguably Ireland was declared to be a Kingdom for a short period, and is included in the united Kingdoms bit, so the short form 'UK' could just about be got away with. But you could hardly call it Great Britain if it didn't cover the whole island?
Perhaps the United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland. Wales at least did have kings of its own at one time, so it's been a kingdom in the past.
The BBC is a public service paid for by Scottish tv licence fees to, if they do not wish to broadcast in Scotland no more tv licence fees from Scotland. simples.:D
You're right, the BBC would no longer receive money from Scottish Tv Licence payers. The yes campaign has already said that they would use the money collected to fund SBS, a Scottish Public Service Broadcaster.
The BBC is a public service paid for by Scottish tv licence fees to, if they do not wish to broadcast in Scotland no more tv licence fees from Scotland. simples.:D
Well, no more licence fee from Scotland for the BBC. So thus they would not broadcast there. You would then be looking at either purely commercial broadcasters in Scotland, or the licence fee being retained but for a purely Scottish broadcaster.
It would also not be a case of them not "wanting" to broadcast in Scotland, they wouldn't be legally allowed to! Their licence and rights contracts are for the UK, and if Scotland is not in the UK, they won't be licenced to broadcast there.
That said, if Scotland were to go Indpendent I can see all major channels agreeing deals with the Scottish Government so that the channel are legitimately available, with the Scots paying for access.
It may lead to splash screens during some programmes in Scotland though (like the one the BBC use for the local news on BBC One HD and Family Guy when viewing the channel online) because they don't have broadcast rights for an Independent Scotland.
This could be an issue from the very start though as an Independent is planning to hpnour existing broadcast agreements until they run out, at which point a new one would be renogotiated.
Well, no more licence fee from Scotland for the BBC. So thus they would not broadcast there. You would then be looking at either purely commercial broadcasters in Scotland, or the licence fee being retained but for a purely Scottish broadcaster.
It would also not be a case of them not "wanting" to broadcast in Scotland, they wouldn't be legally allowed to! Their licence and rights contracts are for the UK, and if Scotland is not in the UK, they won't be licenced to broadcast there.
The BBC is in trouble any way ,thinking of closing BBC 4 with the loss of 5 million licence fees from Scotland, they will be struggling, and may need to up the fee or go down the pay tv route.
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She'll just whip off her tartan skirt and start wearing tweed instead.
Possibly, but I'm sure the BBC & SBS would have some deal in place, Waterloo Road is suffering low ratings as of late so it wouldn't surprise me but if they did SBS might keep it and make it more Scottish as Scotland has a different education system
Is that the two Krankies from TV or the two Krankies from the Edinburgh government?
Is there any difference:D
I really don't see any logical reason why at least the popular shows wouldn't be sold by BBCW to a Scottish broadcaster - either a new national PSB or a commercial channel. I'm fairly sure I've seen Eastenders shown on RTE in Ireland before, so why would a similar deal not be done in an independent Scotland? The Scottish get a program to fill the schedules for less than the cost of commissioning it themselves, and the rest of us get a bit of extra cash in the Beeb's budget to allow them to invest into new programs.
Oh please, when Edinburgh, Glasgow and the Outer Hebrides get to see Eastenders has to be the most pathetic excuse for an independence debate ever.
But do RTE get the range of programmes that we get on BBC1, BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, CBBC and CBeebies? Being able to afford to buy a few programme could still be a loss of many others one that many enjoy.
It is just one small part of the many things that will change or be lost. Salmond is going around trying to give the impression that there will be no change to all the popular programmes.
The Krankies from TV are (or used to be) funny! The 2 from Holyrood are just plain mad!
It doesn't need a debate, just clear information stating what will happen, not what they hope to happen.
Whilst yes, Scotland will still be part of the British Isles should they vote for independence, they would no longer be part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The island of Ireland is regarded as part of the British Isles, however it is not part of Great Britain... confused, try this graphic...
From a broadcasting point of view, the BBC would regard an independent Scotland the same way it does the Republic of Ireland or France. It would be a foreign territory with which we border.
The rights the BBC own are to broadcast IIRC to the United Kingdom of Great Britain. Should Scotland leave that, the BBC would not have the rights, nor the licence, to broadcast in Scotland as it would be a completely different nation compared to the rest of the UK. Sadly not so "simplez". ;-)
Well the UK is short for 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'.
The United Kingdoms in question being Scotland and England, and 'Great Britain' being the name of the whole island. So I can see some tweaking of the name will be required.
Arguably Ireland was declared to be a Kingdom for a short period, and is included in the united Kingdoms bit, so the short form 'UK' could just about be got away with. But you could hardly call it Great Britain if it didn't cover the whole island?
Now where do you think tweed comes from, eh?
China, like everything else.
The Chinese buy their tweed from Scotland though.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-21744000
The BBC is a public service paid for by Scottish tv licence fees if they do not wish to broadcast in Scotland no more tv licence fees from Scotland. simples.:D
The BBC is a public service paid for by Scottish tv licence fees to, if they do not wish to broadcast in Scotland no more tv licence fees from Scotland. simples.:D
Perhaps the United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland. Wales at least did have kings of its own at one time, so it's been a kingdom in the past.
Well, no more licence fee from Scotland for the BBC. So thus they would not broadcast there. You would then be looking at either purely commercial broadcasters in Scotland, or the licence fee being retained but for a purely Scottish broadcaster.
It would also not be a case of them not "wanting" to broadcast in Scotland, they wouldn't be legally allowed to! Their licence and rights contracts are for the UK, and if Scotland is not in the UK, they won't be licenced to broadcast there.
It may lead to splash screens during some programmes in Scotland though (like the one the BBC use for the local news on BBC One HD and Family Guy when viewing the channel online) because they don't have broadcast rights for an Independent Scotland.
This could be an issue from the very start though as an Independent is planning to hpnour existing broadcast agreements until they run out, at which point a new one would be renogotiated.
The BBC is in trouble any way ,thinking of closing BBC 4 with the loss of 5 million licence fees from Scotland, they will be struggling, and may need to up the fee or go down the pay tv route.