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Baby P - the untold story
d0lphin
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Anyone else watching?
Absolutely sickening what that poor baby went through but an interesting documentary.
Absolutely sickening what that poor baby went through but an interesting documentary.
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The clinic where the consultants worked was absolutely shocking.
Looking back at the witch hunt which took place and hearing the details of the serious case review does not make for comfortable viewing.
The conditions which some were working in were a recipe for disaster - not unlike the Mid Staffs hospital case.
There is no way the police failings should have been ignored to the extent that they were.
It always boils down to the same thing. Completely overworked staff working in dangerously understaffed and underfunded services with managers not listening to concerns from staff.
The way the press handled it was disgusting, pointing fingers at people and burning people at the stake before knowing the facts.
It fails children, their families and professionals all the time and it has to change.
Exactly.
As long as we keep chronically underfunding these services, awful things will keep happening.
..........I think youre missing the whole point.
Disgusting attitude in my opinion.
I think you and everyone have been upset re this case, but it's best to:-
Have an open mind,
Watch,
Do not pre judge,
View the truth,,
Don't believe everything printed before.
Is it OK that professional workers get death threats? Whatever they do? The daughter of a professional get a death threat? There are people with strong feelings yes, but we need the truth, and not be blinkered.
Again it's tragic what happened, but we need the truth, not scapegoats.
But a lot of the professionals involved WERE made complete scapegoats. Many did everything they could and followed all procedures they should have done, but a few people and services did not act on it.
You have never made a mistake in your job ever?
I know its no excuse, but lets get real these things will have happened a lot before and will happen again.
Many of these professionals just cannot cope with their workload. They are not fit for the job, but also do not deserve death (maybe the parents do(maybe)) which some at the time wrote on BBC pages (as shown on the current documentary)
Of course I've made mistakes in my job but lives don't depend on my job. And in the case of Peter (I hate calling him Baby P as he had a name) many people made huge mistakes.
Yep sadly so
Awful lot of people seem keen to not give anyone involved a voice to defend themselves.
Is that democracy right there? I mean everyone has a right to defend themselves.
When people set out on a career in medicine or social work, do people really think they set out to allow the death of children? Really?
The social worker had a workload which was 50% higher than it should have been, the consultant worked in a clinic which was clearly unsafe and had resulted in another consultant going off on sick leave. She had been appointed when she was not really qualified and did not have enough experience. It now turns out that she probably did NOT miss a broken back - but hey, who cares? The capacity problems with the clinic meant that the social worker's referral was not acted upon for months.
So much easier to put the boot in to a few individuals that to admit that the system is completely unfit for purpose due to chronic under-funding.
But how many lives do these same professionals save all the time?
Mistakes do happen in jobs like this, sometimes because of incompetence sometimes in spite of the highest level of professionalism. Peter was failed no one disputes that. But if you actually read the ins and outs a lot of professionals did their jobs well but were failed and then scapegoated by those above them. Take the chronic understaffing at St. Anns that professionals had continuously raised or the social worker who had constantly escalted her concerns.
Fully agree.
This needs to be on TV it needs to be highlighted, they just put up 260 children more since Baby P,
it's not cheap, it costs a lot to put this programme together.
He Died 3 August 2007 (aged 1) and you say ten years ago, that's incorrect the same as the rest of your post.
As someone said above, many over stretched workers raised issues that were ignored. The system failed more than any individuals.
and despite whatever individuals missed or should have done better, the ones to blame are actually the scum parents.
As the end of the programme stated, many are leaving or have left being social workers because of the stick they get for being as human as anyone else.
Doctors have peoples lives in there hands every day of every year and through the ages, many have made mistakes that cost lives. However they have probably saved 50.
Thinks are not perfect