fun with a remotes and things

We used to rent a TV of DER in 1980's one day the remote failed and they said bring it in the store we replace it.

So we did. While waiting at the bus stop which happen to be outside the shop. I found through shere curiosity that i could change all the TVs over in the shop display through the glass which amused me specially when i turned the volumes up and down and the woman on reception was doing her crust. She got the engineer or manager out the back and they did not realise what was going on.

This dominoed into some real mischief when we got home i found i could go upstairs and look across the street point the remote and change my neighbours TV. He was not very pleased to say the least.

Anyone ever go to the Sunday markets We went to Matchams market one day and bought a video sender

Set it up in our flat we watched a rail movie that night thought nothing of it. Till during the week chap downstairs said you like Trains don't you? I said yes . He said Sunday there was a great film about diesel engines Those class 37's you like. I nearly come up to tell you it was on.

Me and my partner looked at one another and thought how embarrassing if he only new..

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  • OrbitalzoneOrbitalzone Posts: 12,627
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    oh yes, fun with remotes in shop windows :D
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,994
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    This dominoed into some real mischief when we got home i found i could go upstairs and look across the street point the remote and change my neighbours TV. He was not very pleased to say the least.

    Really??

    for that to work you'd have to have the same make tv, with remotes on the same freq.

    ...and even then.... the remote signal went through your glass.... across the road..... through HIS glass..... across the room..... and into his TV?!?!

    hmmm,... im not sure :confused:
  • RobinOfLoxleyRobinOfLoxley Posts: 27,040
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    My brother used to nick the remote and operate it through the living room window and I used to beat the shit out of him.

    Happy days.
  • prkingprking Posts: 9,793
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    How does this work, as glass is opaque to infra-red? So unless the windows were open I can't see how it would work.
  • Phil OwensPhil Owens Posts: 6,989
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    prking wrote: »
    How does this work, as glass is opaque to infra-red? So unless the windows were open I can't see how it would work.
    It does work. Some kids outside my local one night turning the footy off and on. The landlord couldn't work out what was going on, he done his nut when he saw the kids. Laughed our tits off though.
  • OrbitalzoneOrbitalzone Posts: 12,627
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    prking wrote: »
    How does this work, as glass is opaque to infra-red? So unless the windows were open I can't see how it would work.

    clearly infra red can pass through glass...well lots of glass but some metalsised glass could block it and other wavelenghts... go try it!

    I've stood outside Dixons window and sucessfully operated their tv's and with the remote in my pocket (this was 20 years ago!)

    I've controlled my digibox outside when testing dish signals etc
  • grahamlthompsongrahamlthompson Posts: 18,486
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    Over the years I have had loads of kit in cabinets with glass doors never had a problem with IR even with black smoked glass
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 284
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    Haha.. This reminds me of my old Casio watch that had a remote control, used to play havoc in Dixons and Currys turning the tellies off or turning the volume up. I did it through the window of one shop (volume up at full blast) only to be grabbed by a security guard and frog marched out of the shopping centre. :) I loved that watch.
  • bobcarbobcar Posts: 19,424
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    clearly infra red can pass through glass...well lots of glass but some metalsised glass could block it and other wavelenghts... go try it!
    Likely double glazing with Pilkington K coating would block it though I can't say I've ever tried this, maybe this would only work in one direction.

    Obviously most glass does pass infra-red, apart from remotes working with glass cabinet doors you only have to sit in a car in sunlight to feel infra-red passing through. Mind you getting this to work in a house across the road seems pretty unlikely.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 708
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    This is a bit old hat but will tell you anyway in case you never tried this. Turn on your radio on to medium wave now Turn the tuning dial put the dial between two station so you got hash and turn the volume up. Now point your remote control at it your remote keys will play all different tunes on the radio lots of bleeps when you press the buttons . Great way of testing a remote to see if it functions are working Don't forget to put batteries in. Years since i done it.
  • bobcarbobcar Posts: 19,424
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    This is a bit old hat but will tell you anyway in case you never tried this. Turn on your radio on to medium wave now Turn the tuning dial put the dial between two station so you got hash and turn the volume up. Now point your remote control at it your remote keys will play all different tunes on the radio lots of bleeps when you press the buttons . Great way of testing a remote to see if it functions are working Don't forget to put batteries in. Years since i done it.

    An infra-red remote shouldn't do this (at least the infra-red part) though an RF remote could. If the remote is infra-red then it would be interference from electronics of the key being pressed (not the infra-red) and you shouldn't need to point the remote however I doubt it will have any affect and suspect that your original remote was RF.
  • Chris FrostChris Frost Posts: 11,022
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    This is a bit old hat but will tell you anyway in case you never tried this. Turn on your radio on to medium wave now Turn the tuning dial put the dial between two station so you got hash and turn the volume up. Now point your remote control at it your remote keys will play all different tunes on the radio lots of bleeps when you press the buttons . Great way of testing a remote to see if it functions are working Don't forget to put batteries in. Years since i done it.
    There's an easier way, and it uses something widely available and easily to hand - a mobile with a camera.
    1. Put your phone in to camera mode
    2. Point the remote at the camera and look at the phone screen
    3. Press the remote's buttons - if there's signal then your camera will see the LED flashing
    4. Try it with a known good remote first to get the hang of it before testing the duffer

    This works because cameras pick up the infrared we can't see as well as visible light we can.
    :)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 61
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    Infra red goes through glass, as long as you have a good remote and new batteries.

    How stupid is this though?
    My Panasonic super dupa DVD/PVR/SD gizmo has an IR receiver with a 30deg Rx cone. My TV (actually the PC) puts the set at about 45deg or more .
    That's progress for you.

    And years ago remote/TV codes were pretty crude anyway.

    Now you can get a remote that fires the off code for ALL makes. And that is all it does!
  • finluxfinlux Posts: 3,252
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    Mr_Red wrote: »
    And years ago remote/TV codes were pretty crude anyway.

    I remember YEARS ago, my Auntie had a TV that had a sonic remote control (the controller emitted a "crack" noise), which only had a basic channel up/down & volume up/down buttons.

    Every time I visited & she was watching something (usually Crossroads), I'd clap my hands loudly, resulting in the channel changing :D:D:D

    I wasn't popular.... :p
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 314
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    That "sonic" remote thing, or "clicker" was popular with many early TV manufacturers. I served my apprenticeship with Rediffusion. In one street in Darlington we had two customers who had those Saba globe style Colour TV's (26" screen, white glope cabinets on a pillar stand, push button tuner)
    The sensitivity of the receiver for that Ultrasonic clicker was astonishing. If a window was open just a crack anyone jangling a set of keys out in the street would change the channel on the TV. One of our customers would call us out to repair her telly because it kept changing channels all by itself. The cause, or rather the culprit, was her pet Macaw. It had learned how to imitate the clicker and would change the channel if it didn't like the sound from the telly. We finally out foxed the bird by changing the TV to a Phillips set with infra red remote control.(Have you ever seen a Parrot take the huff? I have!!). Some early infra red remotes had a very high output and could cut through window glass,even reflect off opposite walls. or bounce down hallways into open doorways. Some of the keyring universal remotes today can do the same trick and, being tiny and discrete, be the cause of hours of confusion and amusement. When "touch action" channel change became the latest rage for TV MANUFACTURERS. It lead to all sorts of call outs for the poor TV repairman. Everything from Stuck on one channel, to changing channels by itself. One model of GEC/Mc Michael set had a stock fault that would result in over sensitivity of the touch pads. A restistor(usually 4.7M ohm ) would rise in value to around 900M Ohm or higher. The resulting sensitivity change in the touch pads was so dramatic a fly walking over the contacts or a change in humidity would trigger a channel change. Spooky to the poor customer who'd think their set had become posessed.
    Ah! those were the days!
    That said, some modern sets can display a mind of their own, though these days it's usually down to Processor failure, failing Electrolytic capacitors, or scrambled instruction code. Talk about having a Ghost in the Machine. A Sony Bravia TV on display in a shop window came to my attention recently. The set seemed to have developed the electronic equivalent of a mental breakdown. To the annoyance of shop staff the set would suddenly up the volume, change channel, or switch off. Particularly when showing Parliment TV!! No remotes in sight, no sniggering kids, just component failure. Scared the living daylights out of the cleaning staff one night by jumping out of standby at full volume on a channel showing late night "Psychic TV" show! I wasn't the one who fixed it, but I know the engineer that did. The faulty component was a 1uf 50v electrolytic capacitor of Chinese manufacture!
  • kevkev Posts: 21,075
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    zaeon wrote: »
    Some early infra red remotes had a very high output and could cut through window glass,even reflect off opposite walls. or bounce down hallways into open doorways. Some of the keyring universal remotes today can do the same trick and, being tiny and discrete, be the cause of hours of confusion and amusement.

    I used to have my stereo under the bed and could control it by bouncing the signal off the opposite wall and then when my parents got Sky Digital I was able to use my cheap universal to change the channel from my bed by pointing it through the gap in the bedroom door - it would then bounce down the stairs and across the living room :cool: Had to remember to put it in TV mode when my dad was watching the footie, didn't want to accidentally change the channel! - nowadays all the remote need to be aimed at the right place - and that's called progress - meh!
  • RobinOfLoxleyRobinOfLoxley Posts: 27,040
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    My Uncle used to do the key jingle trick to annoy us kids.

    They had a posh proper ultrasonic (inaudible) remote.
    Two buttons. One for channel and one for volume (or was that 4 buttons?)
    35 years ago, I forget.

    My SAGEM PVR has a bloody awful remote. Very directional and squidgy rubbery keys that must be pressed in a variety of ways to work. The receiver lags badly anyway but does have a buffer, so can suddenly process 5 remote presses.

    I bought a OneForAll Comfort 5 to replace it.
    (£18 from Tesco but I am not sure they still stocking it, just Technika now)

    Anyway it is fabulous.
    It didnt map exactly to the SAGEM but allows keys to be reprogrammed, shifted keys, macros and a learning mode.

    The buttons are positive and work every time and I can point it anywhere.
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