I could say the same about nationalists. Always challenging anything that suggests NI is British.
As for rock bands etc. those people are just right correcting them. People ought to realise that the majority in NI do not identify as Irish (otherwise wouldn't we be united?) and so by default it must be offensive to call it as such. The whole thing smells of ignorance really. Northern Ireland is not that much harder to type/ say and does not run the risk of offending so many.
You need to post what you want to say without spitting your dummy out so much. Attacking anyone with the audacity to disagree. Got out of bed the wrong side this morning eh? Not impressive pal
There is no point arguing with you as you don't know me personally, I lived in England for about 5 years and I have more British friends than I do Irish so painting me out to be a bigot is not going to work.
Not so much of a majority now fellow is it? something like 45% Catholic now.
So as long as the unionists aren't offended, sure isn't that the main thing?
I don't know many Catholics who would ever have much of a problem if someone called them Northern Irish even though their ancestors fought against the state since the day it was created but the same can't be said for unionist people when they are called Irish.
So tell me, you don't identify with being Irish yet the state is called Northern 'Ireland' so you are ok with identifying with the north of the island, just not anywhere south of Armagh or west of Tyrone? That must be quite offensive to the southerners, no wonder you all have such a bad reputation down there.
But most of us do have the monopoly on being Irish Gaels and hence have the monopoly on the culture, just like you all have the monopoly on stuff associated with Anglo-Saxon history and English history pre 1600's and Ulster unionist history.
I have no problem with unionists who have open minds but I have zero time for the anti Irish ones. I don't even have a problem with unionists who view themselves as 100% British as long as they realise that we have the God given right to be Irishmen.
People have a right on either side to identify with what they want obviously.
I wouldn't say any side has a monopoly-you get Catholic Unionists or Protestant Nationalists so they have to be treated equally-I'd like to see a Catholic Unionist elected as an MP and given fair and equal ops in Unionist parties just as Protestant Nationalists should get in the Nationalist parties.
dmuk's Game of Thrones trolling and the Irish getting upset about some pedantic matter or other, we just need someone to mention abortion and we've got the full set of DS tedious topics.
There is no point arguing with you as you don't know me personally, I lived in England for about 5 years and I have more British friends than I do Irish so painting me out to be a bigot is not going to work.
Not so much of a majority now fellow is it? something like 45% Catholic now.
So as long as the unionists aren't offended, sure isn't that the main thing?
I don't know many Catholics who would ever have much of a problem if someone called them Northern Irish even though their ancestors fought against the state since the day it was created but the same can't be said for unionist people when they are called Irish.
So tell me, you don't identify with being Irish yet the state is called Northern 'Ireland' so you are ok with identifying with the north of the island, just not anywhere south of Armagh or west of Tyrone? That must be quite offensive to the southerners, no wonder you all have such a bad reputation down there.
A substantial number of catholics-almost 100,000 or 1 in 8 view themselves as British-catholic ethnic minorities will identify as Polish, Latvian so 1 in 8 of the native local population-maybe 1 in 7.5 but rounds to 8.
But most of us do have the monopoly on being Irish Gaels and hence have the monopoly on the culture, just like you all have the monopoly on stuff associated with Anglo-Saxon history and English history pre 1600's and Ulster unionist history.
I have no problem with unionists who have open minds but I have zero time for the anti Irish ones. I don't even have a problem with unionists who view themselves as 100% British as long as they realise that we have the God given right to be Irishmen.
Oh, I am open minded- I couldn't care less if someone identified as Irish- just as long as they and others realise I don't and a lot of people in NI don't. Simple as that,
You are making me out to be something I am not. I am not attacking your identity, I am merely protecting mine as it is often picked upon (as you have done from the off)
I should point out that I have plenty of Irish friends..
dmuk's Game of Thrones trolling and the Irish getting upset about some pedantic matter or other, we just need someone to mention abortion and we've got the full set of DS tedious topics.
People have a right on either side to identify with what they want obviously.
I wouldn't say any side has a monopoly-you get Catholic Unionists or Protestant Nationalists so they have to be treated equally-I'd like to see a Catholic Unionist elected as an MP and given fair and equal ops in Unionist parties just as Protestant Nationalists should get in the Nationalist parties.
Protestant nationalists have always been well respected in Ireland as a whole though, I even drove past a monument today dedicated to a Presbyterian nationalist from the 1700's.
A substantial number of catholics-almost 100,000 or 1 in 8 view themselves as British-catholic ethnic minorities will identify as Polish, Latvian so 1 in 8 of the native local population-maybe 1 in 7.5 but rounds to 8.
yes i know about the 2011 census results but I would imagine that 95% of Catholics here would view themselves more Irish than British, my own grandparents and sister ticked British on that form as they couldn't care less about identity but their culture and family history is very much Irish.
dmuk's Game of Thrones trolling and the Irish getting upset about some pedantic matter or other, we just need someone to mention abortion and we've got the full set of DS tedious topics.
Not quite, we would need smoking race for life runners in Westeros and we would need to have arguments about the various religions there too.
Protestant nationalists have always been well respected in Ireland as a whole though, I even drove past a monument today dedicated to a Presbyterian nationalist from the 1700's.
There's not many elected in Northern Ireland though if any, same with Catholic Unionists so it's bout both sides giving people opportunities for election.
Oh, I am open minded- I couldn't care less if someone identified as Irish- just as long as they and others realise I don't and a lot of people in NI don't. Simple as that,
You are making me out to be something I am not. I am not attacking your identity, I am merely protecting mine as it is often picked upon (as you have done from the off)
I should point out that I have plenty of Irish friends..
I never picked on your identity, my first comment on the matter said that Northern Ireland was politically British and geographically Irish, I was actually protecting my own identity from the poster who was saying that the north coast is British not Irish, if I wanted to insult anyone I would have said 'it isn't British, it is Irish' but I never.
There's not many elected in Northern Ireland though if any, same with Catholic Unionists so it's bout both sides giving people opportunities for election.
I am aware of some catholic unionists who still vote for nationalist parties because they believe it is the right thing to do in order to protect their people, it is not surprising as it has only been a few decades since we have had equal rights in fairness.
Their are some dodgy characters in unionist politics such as Jim Allister, your man Poots and the woman from TUV who posted anti Irish comments on twitter so this stuff is always going to push catholic unionists away from actually voting for the unionists.
I am aware of some catholic unionists who still vote for nationalist parties because they believe it is the right thing to do in order to protect their people, it is not surprising as it has only been a few decades since we have had equal rights in fairness.
Their are some dodgy characters in unionist politics such as Jim Allister, your man Poots and the woman from TUV who posted anti Irish comments on twitter so this stuff is always going to push catholic unionists away from actually voting for the unionists.
Yeah well TUV is more hardline Unionist party-although to be fair to Allister he may be fairly bigoted but he did stand up for Ann Travers, a catholic victim of the IRA.
Catholics will be more likely to vote for a moderate Unionist I guess.
Dear kiddies, we know it's your summer holidays, but we are closing this popular beach for a couple of days because we have porn and violence to film. Signed, HBO xox
Taking off my 'anti Game of Thrones' hat for a moment, this is an interesting issue not exclusive to the filth peddling HBO. The latest Star Wars film is being shot on a remote island in Ireland.
It seems governments have no problem pimping out our countries to Hollywood, but are the proper precautions being taken to protect not only the welfare of locals, but also of wildlife?
That happened a few weeks ago, or are you only trolling about it now? I work in Portstewart and the tourism that was generated because of the filming was unreal. Lots of people visited to watch the filming rather than go to the beach...
Yeah well TUV is more hardline Unionist party-although to be fair to Allister he may be fairly bigoted but he did stand up for Ann Travers, a catholic victim of the IRA.
Catholics will be more likely to vote for a moderate Unionist I guess.
It would be more impressive if he stood up for Catholic victims of Loyalist violence. Jim seems to be a bit choosy of what victims concern him.
Catholics are highly unlikely to vote for Unionist parties ever. At least the ones that exist now. NI21 could have been interesting but that blow up was weird
Anyway what's more important is the possible return of Rickon Stark. The last two books were a bit meh, too many words for so little action. Although Manderly and the pies was great:)
That happened a few weeks ago, or are you only trolling about it now? I work in Portstewart and the tourism that was generated because of the filming was unreal. Lots of people visited to watch the filming rather than go to the beach...
Portstewart is a lovely wee village. -. A good mix of people. I lived there while a student and loved it.
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There is no point arguing with you as you don't know me personally, I lived in England for about 5 years and I have more British friends than I do Irish so painting me out to be a bigot is not going to work.
Not so much of a majority now fellow is it? something like 45% Catholic now.
So as long as the unionists aren't offended, sure isn't that the main thing?
I don't know many Catholics who would ever have much of a problem if someone called them Northern Irish even though their ancestors fought against the state since the day it was created but the same can't be said for unionist people when they are called Irish.
So tell me, you don't identify with being Irish yet the state is called Northern 'Ireland' so you are ok with identifying with the north of the island, just not anywhere south of Armagh or west of Tyrone? That must be quite offensive to the southerners, no wonder you all have such a bad reputation down there.
People have a right on either side to identify with what they want obviously.
I wouldn't say any side has a monopoly-you get Catholic Unionists or Protestant Nationalists so they have to be treated equally-I'd like to see a Catholic Unionist elected as an MP and given fair and equal ops in Unionist parties just as Protestant Nationalists should get in the Nationalist parties.
A substantial number of catholics-almost 100,000 or 1 in 8 view themselves as British-catholic ethnic minorities will identify as Polish, Latvian so 1 in 8 of the native local population-maybe 1 in 7.5 but rounds to 8.
Oh, I am open minded- I couldn't care less if someone identified as Irish- just as long as they and others realise I don't and a lot of people in NI don't. Simple as that,
You are making me out to be something I am not. I am not attacking your identity, I am merely protecting mine as it is often picked upon (as you have done from the off)
I should point out that I have plenty of Irish friends..
You can stop that right now.
Ignorant ****
Protestant nationalists have always been well respected in Ireland as a whole though, I even drove past a monument today dedicated to a Presbyterian nationalist from the 1700's.
The rudeness exuding from your post is overwhelming.
I'm just confused as to how it went from GoT to whining about politics.
I have just one word of wisdom for all:
Hodor.
yes i know about the 2011 census results but I would imagine that 95% of Catholics here would view themselves more Irish than British, my own grandparents and sister ticked British on that form as they couldn't care less about identity but their culture and family history is very much Irish.
But it may have been in the Texaco petrol station instead.
Not quite, we would need smoking race for life runners in Westeros and we would need to have arguments about the various religions there too.
There's not many elected in Northern Ireland though if any, same with Catholic Unionists so it's bout both sides giving people opportunities for election.
Might need a wee bit about teachers as well.
I never picked on your identity, my first comment on the matter said that Northern Ireland was politically British and geographically Irish, I was actually protecting my own identity from the poster who was saying that the north coast is British not Irish, if I wanted to insult anyone I would have said 'it isn't British, it is Irish' but I never.
Well, when in Rome...
I am aware of some catholic unionists who still vote for nationalist parties because they believe it is the right thing to do in order to protect their people, it is not surprising as it has only been a few decades since we have had equal rights in fairness.
Their are some dodgy characters in unionist politics such as Jim Allister, your man Poots and the woman from TUV who posted anti Irish comments on twitter so this stuff is always going to push catholic unionists away from actually voting for the unionists.
Yeah well TUV is more hardline Unionist party-although to be fair to Allister he may be fairly bigoted but he did stand up for Ann Travers, a catholic victim of the IRA.
Catholics will be more likely to vote for a moderate Unionist I guess.
Didn't realise he'd opened a can of worms!
That happened a few weeks ago, or are you only trolling about it now? I work in Portstewart and the tourism that was generated because of the filming was unreal. Lots of people visited to watch the filming rather than go to the beach...
It would be more impressive if he stood up for Catholic victims of Loyalist violence. Jim seems to be a bit choosy of what victims concern him.
Catholics are highly unlikely to vote for Unionist parties ever. At least the ones that exist now. NI21 could have been interesting but that blow up was weird
Anyway what's more important is the possible return of Rickon Stark. The last two books were a bit meh, too many words for so little action. Although Manderly and the pies was great:)
Portstewart is a lovely wee village. -. A good mix of people. I lived there while a student and loved it.
Well what about Davos Seaworth? He's a well known Unionist.
edit: Make that - Onionist. ;-)