Looking at the links, Lesley Sanderson doesnt look as bad as I thought at the time, but she has the kind of face that looks malevolent as a default setting, even if the owner is a nice person. I guess I can see why some people might think her good looking...kind of...its not the kind of face I would call 'pretty' though.
Alexandra looks very pretty, agree she should be higher!
I think some of the male HMs -- Sandy and Shahbaz -- should be higher. Both look worse in their pictures than I remember, but (as I mentioned earlier) HMs can look quite different in BB than in pics.
Only with a rather broad notion of "good looking". It's a plain, neutral sort of face, so far as looks are concerned, not ugly, but not pretty either. And there's a kind of blankness and lack of vivacity to her expression in that pic and at other times.
Its eye of the beholder time
I think she had a pretty face. In fact if I'd been 19 at the time I'd have found her quite attractive. Just a bit too big for me
Re Lesley bb6:
Wouldn't it be more fair to take a kind of average over all the different ways they looked?
Hmm maybe, but for me it seemed more reasonable to think of them as a person, and their actual features/ any sex appeal, as the vote was titled Hotness Ranking. Perhaps if the title was Hottest Housemate, I would have taken into consideration their role within the house/ expressions and any bad habits more.
Its eye of the beholder time
I think she had a pretty face. In fact if I'd been 19 at the time I'd have found her quite attractive. Just a bit too big for me
Maybe you're going by your beholding eye, but I'm going by what's normally and generally considered pretty. Lesley has quite ordinary, plain, wouldn't look at her twice at the bus stop, looks.
Hmm maybe, but for me it seemed more reasonable to think of them as a person, and their actual features/ any sex appeal, as the vote was titled Hotness Ranking. Perhaps if the title was Hottest Housemate, I would have taken into consideration their role within the house/ expressions and any bad habits more.
I was talking about their actual features -- not their role in the house or bad habits. And their looks and 'hotness' cannot imo be separated from how they look, which includes the way their features are shaped by their facial expressions.
You said: "I think I tried to be fair in thinking of the housemates when they had a neutral or positive expression."
And I replied: "Wouldn't it be more fair to take a kind of average over all the different ways they looked?" -- rather than selecting something neutral or positive when that may be unrepresentative.
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This time I agree about the placing.
Alexandra should definitely be higher.
http://www.popsugar.co.uk/files/upl1/20/202476/25_2008/alexandra_440x227.jpg
She was a good looking girl, judging by that picture, but we didn't really see much of that expression in the house.
I bet Marcus would be thrilled to know that he came below David.
Alexandra looks very pretty, agree she should be higher!
140) Maggot (3.3)
Celebrity Big Brother 4
Previous Placings:
2011: 89th (3.29)
2012: 118th (3.41)
139) Liam Young (3.31)
Big Brother: Celebrity Hijack
Previous Placings:
2011: 96th (3.13)
2012: 107th (3.72)
138) Paddy Doherty (3.32)
Celebrity Big Brother 8
Previous Placings:
2011: N/A
2012: 114th (3.54)
And a tie:
=136) Sree Desari (3.33)
Big Brother 10
Previous Placings:
2011: 110th (2.61)
2012: 123rd (3.28)
=136) Paul 'Bubble' Ferguson (3.33)
Big Brother 2
Previous Placings:
2011: 91st (3.26)
2012: 115th (3.5)
And a three-way tie:
=113) Chris Eubank (3.38)
Celebrity Big Brother 1
Previous Placings:
2011: 103rd (2.83)
2012: 117th (3.42)
=113) Derek Laud (3.38)
Big Brother 6
Previous Placings:
2011: 105th (2.81)
2012: 116th (3.43)
=113) Seany O' Kane (3.38)
Big Brother 8
Previous Placings:
2011: 99th (3.04)
2012: 108th (3.7)
132) Marco Sabba (3.41)
Big Brother 5
Previous Placings:
2011: 112th (2.54)
2012: 122nd (3.3)
131) Michael Barrymore (3.44)
Celebrity Big Brother 4
Previous Placings:
2011: 107th (2.74)
2012: 120th (3.32)
I think she had a pretty face. In fact if I'd been 19 at the time I'd have found her quite attractive. Just a bit too big for me
140) Kerry Katona (4)
Celebrity Big Brother 8
Previous Placings:
2011: N/A
2012: 123rd (3.67)
=138) Sophia Brown (4.02)
Big Brother 10
Previous Placings:
2011: 105th (3.58)
2012: 119th (3.88)
=138) Jodie Marsh (4.02)
Celebrity Big Brother 4
Previous Placings:
2011: 103rd (3.65)
2012: 116th (3.98)
137) Ivana Trump (4.05)
Celebrity Big Brother 7
Previous Placings:
2011: 95th (4.2)
2012: 110th (4.19)
136) Mary O'Leary (4.06)
Big Brother 6
Previous Placings:
2011:107th (3.56)
2012: 120th (3.86)
135) Alex Rose Lee (4.07)
Big Brother 12
Previous Placings:
2011: N/A
2012: 121st (3.8)
=133) Justine Sellman (4.11)
Big Brother 4
Previous Placings:
2011: 93rd (4.2)
2012: 115th (4)
=133) Lynne Moncrief (4.11)
Big Brother 3
Previous Placings:
2011: 100th (3.84)
2012: 111th (4.17)
132) Caroline Wharram (4.18)
Big Brother 13
Previous Placings:
2011: N/A
2012: N/A
131) Emma Greenwood (4.24)
Big Brother 5
Previous Placings:
2011: 99th (4)
2012: 114th (4.07)
I don't know about you but I think Mary and Caroline have been a bit robbed here.
I know she's gone totally downhill but I think Kerry Katona should be higher as well
Kerry is pretty but kind of looked like a boy when she was in the house...
I agree about Mary, always rated her much higher, however i never saw much in Caroline
I think Lynne and Emma are more deserving of higher rankings.
130) David Parnaby (3.47)
Big Brother 8
Previous Placings:
2011: 104th (2.82)
2012: 111th (3.64)
129) Neil 'Razor' Ruddock (3.49)
Celebrity Big Brother 11
Previous Placings:
2011: N/A
2012: N/A
128) Goldie (3.55)
Celebrity Big Brother 2
Previous Placings:
2011: 96th (3.13)
2012: 95th (4.06)
127) Bez (3.6)
Celebrity Big Brother 3
Previous Placings:
2011: 98th (3.07)
2012: 101st (3.93)
126) Stuart Hosking (3.7)
Big Brother 2
Previous Placings:
2011: 94th (3.19)
2012: 109th (3.68)
125) Andrew Stone (3.79)
Celebrity Big Brother 9
Previous Placings:
2011: N/A
2012: 93rd (4.09)
124) Jonathan Durden (3.86)
Big Brother 8
Previous Placings:
2011: 102nd (2.89)
2012: 106th (3.76)
123) Scott Mason (3.87)
Big Brother 13
Previous Placings:
2011: N/A
2012: N/A
122) Kemal Shahin (3.88)
Big Brother 6
Previous Placings:
2011: 97th (3.09)
2012: 112th (3.59)
121) Govan Hinds (3.9)
Big Brother 11
Previous Placings:
2011: 90th (3.26)
2012: 110th (3.67)
Hmm maybe, but for me it seemed more reasonable to think of them as a person, and their actual features/ any sex appeal, as the vote was titled Hotness Ranking. Perhaps if the title was Hottest Housemate, I would have taken into consideration their role within the house/ expressions and any bad habits more.
I think the actress Suranne Jones is defintely hot, although she has slimmer figure and finer features/more expressive face.
http://wallpapers5.com/images/wallpapers/26755313/Female%20Celebrities/Suranne-Jones/Suranne-Jones-9.JPG
And I think the actress Siobhan Finneran is attractive although she has played plain characters.
http://db2.stb.s-msn.com/i/D6/9B39B010E3CA28621C7E881375C8A.jpg
I can see some similarities with Lesley.
130) Penny Ellis (4.27)
Big Brother 2
Previous Placings:
2011: 88th (4.31)
2012: 107th (438)
129) Samantha Brick (4.28)
Celebrity Big Brother 10
Previous Placings:
2011: N/A
2012: N/A
128) Ashleigh Hughes (4.37)
Big Brother 13
Previous Placings:
2011: N/A
2012: N/A
127) Steph Coldicott (4.41)
Big Brother 4
Previous Placings:
2011: 97th (407)
2012: 113th (4.12)
126) Jo O'Meara (4.43)
Celebrity Big Brother 5
Previous Placings:
2011: 89th (4.3)
2012: 96th (4.7)
125) Lady Sovereign (4.47)
Celebrity Big Brother 7
Previous Placings:
2011: 96th (4.15)
2012: 106th (4.39)
124) Heaven Afrika (4.48)
Big Brother 12
Previous Placings:
2011: N/A
2012: 108th (433)
123) Sally Bercow (4.5)
Celebrity Big Brother 8
Previous Placings:
2011: N/A
2012: 90th (4.83)
122) Colleen Nolan (4.55)
Celebrity Big Brother 10
Previous Placings:
2011: N/A
2012: N/A
121) Josie Gibson (4.57)
Big Brother 11
Previous Placings:
2011: 87th (4.36)
2012: 101st (4.55)
I think we're beginning to enter the 'scrubs up well' category, as personally I think Sov, Steph and Sally are all worthy of being higher.
Yes, she should.
The way he looked during bb5?
Seriously?
Maybe you're going by your beholding eye, but I'm going by what's normally and generally considered pretty.
I think Sov and Samantha are worthy of being higher, but not Steph.
I was talking about their actual features -- not their role in the house or bad habits. And their looks and 'hotness' cannot imo be separated from how they look, which includes the way their features are shaped by their facial expressions.
You said: "I think I tried to be fair in thinking of the housemates when they had a neutral or positive expression."
And I replied: "Wouldn't it be more fair to take a kind of average over all the different ways they looked?" -- rather than selecting something neutral or positive when that may be unrepresentative.
Similarity is a very flexible thing. They both have dark hair, for example, and Lesley did too. That's a similarity.