Again, to me it depends on how they achieve the outcome. If a new process, or a major improvement on a current process has been used, they is definately innovation.
Yes. An innovative process or technique may have been in place.
I thought the new sapphire crystal display on the iPhone 6 was scratch resistant? Well according to Marques Brownlee it is on his Youtube tests.
It is scratch resistant, but we will all have to wait and see just how scratch resistant it is. I'm sure apple will have run tests to see how sapphire glass performs. If sapphire glass is to brittle or performs badly Apple just want use it.
It's not, although very tough, making it bigger poses other issues aside from simple cost too.
Yes indeed as 100% crystal sapphire wouldn't be flexible enough. I think the new screen should be scratch resistant enough for most people. Of course there are idiots out there who will try to prove otherwise by deliberately trying to smash it onto the ground, hammering it and setting fire to it.
No that would be an invention, no such glass presently exsists
If glass already exists, what would have been invented? If they invented a new material, that might be an invention. But coming up with a way to treat glass that already exists would be closer to innovation.
If Nescafe improve the flavour of their coffee, have they invented "nicer tasting coffee", or have they come up with some innovative way to make their coffee taste nicer?
That would not be an improvement, making it tougher or more resistant, they are actually accomplishing what would be the holy grail a glass that is totally impervious. It would no longer be a tough glass or tougher glass it would be the invention of the perfect glass impervious to marking.
Innovation as a way to deliver the same thing better could be applied to anything within reason if you follow your logic, but in this instance such a glass would be an invention. I suppose you could say innovative for mobile phone manufacturers to put it on their phones but the production of such a revolutionary glass would be an invention.
However given it will; unlikely happen another pointless discussion.
No surprise that statement came along dear me, although if you wish to be pedantic is gorilla etc technically glass?
Gorilla glass would be an invention i would say, not looked into too much depends where it came from and what other things such as mineral offered. However each version are just innovations yes until that goal of impervious glass is ever reached. As they will no longer be offering stages of tougher glass but a glass that is impervious.
If a phone had a plastic screen and not glass is that innovation or invention. after all it could be argued it is just another way for a transparent substance to be used to view information.
If its the same material, and its merely innovation when it its 60, 70, 80, 90% scratch resistant, I don't really follow why it suddenly becomes an invention when it reaches 100%.
yes this glass will scratch when you do this, this glass won't scratch unless you do this on and on to varying degrees. Until when someone says do what you like this glass won't scratch that is different.
No your being pedantic and we are back on the merry go round. Everything is an actual invention technically whatever it is. So all levels of gorilla glass have to be invented.
What you are saying is whatever they come up with it is still a piece of glass so doesn't count as an invention it is all just innovation, that is not a consistent view.
I say and this is my view that all levels of tough glass are innovation - they are all variations of the same thing just a bit tougher- until there comes a point when it is indestructible then that is different.
These conversations with you get so tiresome with your consent picking and "so what you're saying" posts.
My last point on this to cover that we may be talking about different views. This needs to be seen in the context of it's use, so Apple for example wouldn't invent this glass so technically their use of it would only be innovation if you want to be very pedantic.
I have nothing further to add on your 100% gorilla glass.
It now looks like the iPhone 6 display may not be sapphire:
[Someone] rubbed the iPhone 6 screen with two types of sandpaper that are softer than sapphire according to the Mohs scale of mineral hardness, and succeeded in scratching it.
Another leak today suggest Apple is getting ready for its largest ever initial production run of the iPhone.
Citing "people familiar with the matter", the Wall Street Journal claimed the company has asked suppliers to make between 70 million and 80 million iPhone units by 30 December.
Another leak today suggest Apple is getting ready for its largest ever initial production run of the iPhone.
Citing "people familiar with the matter", the Wall Street Journal claimed the company has asked suppliers to make between 70 million and 80 million iPhone units by 30 December.
Have I read that correctly that apple are going to put a notification LED on the underneath of the handset ?
Surely if they do that's putting "style" over "functionality" ???
I would agree that if true, it seems rather silly. Quite apart from the fact that the back of the phone is just a generally stupid place for such a thing, a lot of people put their phones in cases anyway.
It now looks like the iPhone 6 display may not be sapphire:
[Someone] rubbed the iPhone 6 screen with two types of sandpaper that are softer than sapphire according to the Mohs scale of mineral hardness, and succeeded in scratching it.
It now looks like the iPhone 6 display may not be sapphire:
[Someone] rubbed the iPhone 6 screen with two types of sandpaper that are softer than sapphire according to the Mohs scale of mineral hardness, and succeeded in scratching it.
I think this will potentially be the best Iphone ever to be honest. I mean it will be a massive upgrade and I'm sure the majority here will agree. If ever there was a phone that would sway people over to Apple it will be this one.
A widely circulating rumour is that the larger device will follow later. Whether that is down to manufacturing issues with thr larger screen, who knows.
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Yes. An innovative process or technique may have been in place.
I thought the new sapphire crystal display on the iPhone 6 was scratch resistant? Well according to Marques Brownlee it is on his Youtube tests.
The 100% sapphire crystal home button seems to be totally scratch proof but it would be too expensive to have a completely sapphire crystal screen.
It is scratch resistant, but we will all have to wait and see just how scratch resistant it is. I'm sure apple will have run tests to see how sapphire glass performs. If sapphire glass is to brittle or performs badly Apple just want use it.
Yes indeed as 100% crystal sapphire wouldn't be flexible enough. I think the new screen should be scratch resistant enough for most people. Of course there are idiots out there who will try to prove otherwise by deliberately trying to smash it onto the ground, hammering it and setting fire to it.
If glass already exists, what would have been invented? If they invented a new material, that might be an invention. But coming up with a way to treat glass that already exists would be closer to innovation.
If Nescafe improve the flavour of their coffee, have they invented "nicer tasting coffee", or have they come up with some innovative way to make their coffee taste nicer?
Innovation as a way to deliver the same thing better could be applied to anything within reason if you follow your logic, but in this instance such a glass would be an invention. I suppose you could say innovative for mobile phone manufacturers to put it on their phones but the production of such a revolutionary glass would be an invention.
However given it will; unlikely happen another pointless discussion.
So how about Gorilla Glass. Is that an invention, or an innovative way of making already invented glass more durable?
Gorilla glass would be an invention i would say, not looked into too much depends where it came from and what other things such as mineral offered. However each version are just innovations yes until that goal of impervious glass is ever reached. As they will no longer be offering stages of tougher glass but a glass that is impervious.
If a phone had a plastic screen and not glass is that innovation or invention. after all it could be argued it is just another way for a transparent substance to be used to view information.
If its the same material, and its merely innovation when it its 60, 70, 80, 90% scratch resistant, I don't really follow why it suddenly becomes an invention when it reaches 100%.
...they haven't invented 90% Scratch Resistant Glass.
But if someone comes up with a glass that is 100% scratch resistant....
...they have invented 100% Scratch Resistant Glass?
I don't mean to be pedantic, I just don't think that's a very consistent view to adopt.
What you are saying is whatever they come up with it is still a piece of glass so doesn't count as an invention it is all just innovation, that is not a consistent view.
I say and this is my view that all levels of tough glass are innovation - they are all variations of the same thing just a bit tougher- until there comes a point when it is indestructible then that is different.
These conversations with you get so tiresome with your consent picking and "so what you're saying" posts.
My last point on this to cover that we may be talking about different views. This needs to be seen in the context of it's use, so Apple for example wouldn't invent this glass so technically their use of it would only be innovation if you want to be very pedantic.
I have nothing further to add on your 100% gorilla glass.
Drop forged steel is still steel, is just toughened via a manufacturing process that was developed or invented to solve a problem.
[Someone] rubbed the iPhone 6 screen with two types of sandpaper that are softer than sapphire according to the Mohs scale of mineral hardness, and succeeded in scratching it.
Read more: iPhone 6 sapphire display: is Apple cutting costs with composite materials? | News | PC Pro http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/389899/iphone-6-sapphire-display-is-apple-cutting-costs-with-composite-materials#ixzz386SAZAMC
Citing "people familiar with the matter", the Wall Street Journal claimed the company has asked suppliers to make between 70 million and 80 million iPhone units by 30 December.
Read more: iPhone 6 may feature light up Apple logo | News | PC Pro http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/389923/iphone-6s-apple-logo-may-light-up-for-notifications#ixzz38C2ASISJ
Have I read that correctly that apple are going to put a notification LED on the underneath of the handset ?
Surely if they do that's putting "style" over "functionality" ???
I would agree that if true, it seems rather silly. Quite apart from the fact that the back of the phone is just a generally stupid place for such a thing, a lot of people put their phones in cases anyway.
I hope that means that they are available easier this time on release than last time which was pathetic.
It was Marques Brownlee again. He decided to have another go at damaging the screen and this time succeeded.