Independent artice: "White Dee backs benefit cuts"

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Article in today's Independent:
White Dee backs benefit cuts: 'I've always kind of supported it'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/white-dee-backs-government-benefit-cuts-ive-always-kind-of-supported-it-9837936.html

Fans of Channel 4 ‘poverty porn’ series Benefits Street might be surprised to learn about where it’s biggest star, Deirdre 'White Dee' Kelly, stands on the issue of government welfare cuts.

“I've always kind of supported it,” the former Celebrity Big * told Total Politics magazine when asked about what she thought of the Coalition’s £18billion cuts on benefits spending.

*yep, that's what it said :D

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  • Pink_SmurfPink_Smurf Posts: 6,883
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    Article in today's Independent:
    White Dee backs benefit cuts: 'I've always kind of supported it'

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/white-dee-backs-government-benefit-cuts-ive-always-kind-of-supported-it-9837936.html

    Fans of Channel 4 ‘poverty porn’ series Benefits Street might be surprised to learn about where it’s biggest star, Deirdre 'White Dee' Kelly, stands on the issue of government welfare cuts.

    “I've always kind of supported it,” the former Celebrity Big * told Total Politics magazine when asked about what she thought of the Coalition’s £18billion cuts on benefits spending.

    *yep, that's what it said :D
    I hope the tories are voted out. The BBC saw leaked documents that said the tories are planning to cut sickness benefit by £30 per week. I think this is disgusting. I think workfare is wrong too. People don't become ill deliberately. My sister has cancer and got a pittance from the benefits. It's not true that claimants "just fill out a form" to claim sickness benefits like right wingers claim. They contact your GP, your consultant at hospital, your psychiatrist etc. You are then also interviewed by people from companies like Atos and now Maximus on behalf of the DWP. I have a long term serious mental illness and spend much of my time scared of letters from the postman in case it's more tests, forms or letters about cuts from the benefits. I have paranoid schizophrenia, depression and anxiety which are made worse by the tories benefit schemes. The sooner they are voted out the better.
  • Jungle CatsJungle Cats Posts: 765
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    basically: 'I've spent my entire life hoovering up benefits that I didn't really deserve but now I'm a 'star' I don't want anyone else to get any'

    hypocritical b!tch
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 68,508
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    For heavens sake. I buy the Independent because it is less silly than other papers, ie less likely to pad its pages with pointless nonsense from some sub-z-lister from Benefits Street.
  • PitmanPitman Posts: 28,495
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    she'll be on Question Time next, "it's far too easy for the disabled in this country", as she sits next to Dimbleby puffing on her pipe :cool:
  • Jungle CatsJungle Cats Posts: 765
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    Pitman wrote: »
    she'll be on Question Time next, "it's far too easy for the disabled in this country", as she sits next to Dimbleby puffing on her pipe :cool:

    no doubt she doesn't want 'her taxes' going to greedy disabled people
  • kimotagkimotag Posts: 11,064
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    Poacher turned gamekeeper.
  • Cats_EyesCats_Eyes Posts: 20,291
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    For heavens sake. I buy the Independent because it is less silly than other papers, ie less likely to pad its pages with pointless nonsense from some sub-z-lister from Benefits Street.

    Glad you do Wonkey - I worked for The Independent from it's launch until I retired - and you are quite right -it is "less silly than other papers". Just the odd employee who might be.

    Thanks for keeping me in a job.
  • An ThropologistAn Thropologist Posts: 39,854
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    I thought some might find this article about another benefit claimant interesting.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11204133/Widow-of-NHS-chief-wrongly-claimed-27000-in-benefits.html.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,003
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    Blooming foreigners, coming in here and disrupting our sleep.
    Get back to Strictly Come Prancing!!!
    >:( Bah!!! >:(>:(

    Once upon a time, a case like that would have simply been a requirement to repay, as it's an overpayment that isn't the DWP's fault. Would never have gone near a Court.
  • Artemis1Artemis1 Posts: 1,310
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    basically: 'I've spent my entire life hoovering up benefits that I didn't really deserve but now I'm a 'star' I don't want anyone else to get any'

    hypocritical b!tch

    Well said.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 68,508
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    Cats_Eyes wrote: »
    Glad you do Wonkey - I worked for The Independent from it's launch until I retired - and you are quite right -it is "less silly than other papers". Just the odd employee who might be.

    Thanks for keeping me in a job.
    Respect! :) It is a great paper.
    I thought some might find this article about another benefit claimant interesting.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11204133/Widow-of-NHS-chief-wrongly-claimed-27000-in-benefits.html.

    Hmmm. >:( I'm sure as a magistrate she regularly accepted the excuse that "I didn't realize it was wrong."
  • VeriVeri Posts: 96,996
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    For heavens sake. I buy the Independent because it is less silly than other papers, ie less likely to pad its pages with pointless nonsense from some sub-z-lister from Benefits Street.

    My view of The Independent is that if often has a good front page, but in the rest, there's usually less that I find interesting, or want to read, than in the Guardian. So if I'm picking up a paper to read with my coffee, I'm as happy to choose The Telegraph, Financial Times, or The Times (or certain more regionally-based papers) as The Independent.

    Anyway, it;'s interesting that Dee, "a life-long Labour voted" [sic] has defected to Ukip, rather than to the Tories.
  • An ThropologistAn Thropologist Posts: 39,854
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    Respect! :) It is a great paper.


    Hmmm. >:( I'm sure as a magistrate she regularly accepted the excuse that "I didn't realize it was wrong."

    Quite. I thought ignorance of the law was no defence. One would expect that someone who served as a magistrate and could be said to have sat in judgement of others would have some knowledge of the law.

    One would further expect that someone considered suitable to be a magistrate would not be the sort of person who would read the documentation given to her when her benefit started. It beggars belief that her defence was that she didn't read the rules in her possession and this was accepted.

    Finally I wonder why someone who was married to a very successful businessman and lives in a very select area would need such financial support. Not judging as such but wondering.

    Maybe its different if you have a title. :confused::)
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    Finally I wonder why someone who was married to a very successful businessman and lives in a very select area would need such financial support. Not judging as such but wondering.
    WPA is based on the husband's NI Contributions and is one of those benefits that isn't means tested.
    If your husband paid sufficient NI, you are getting Child Benefit, you are widowed, not co-habiting or re-married, and under pension age, you're entitled whether your stinking rich or gutter poor.

    As to need, she didn't have to claim it, but she was entitled to it until her new fella moved in.
  • An ThropologistAn Thropologist Posts: 39,854
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    WPA is based on the husband's NI Contributions and is one of those benefits that isn't means tested.
    If your husband paid sufficient NI, you are getting Child Benefit, you are widowed, not co-habiting or re-married, and under pension age, you're entitled whether your stinking rich or gutter poor.

    As to need, she didn't have to claim it, but she was entitled to it until her new fella moved in.

    Its like having a stalker! :o:p Note you don't venture into SCD - scared? :D

    As for this I accept she was entitled to the money but given her wealth it seems ..oh I don't know... greedy I suppose to take it.

    Any way that was a minor point.. more of a musing. But that an ex magistrate that didn't read documentation properly and then successfully uses ignorance as her defence is irksome.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 68,508
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    Veri wrote: »
    My view of The Independent is that if often has a good front page, but in the rest, there's usually less that I find interesting, or want to read, than in the Guardian. So if I'm picking up a paper to read with my coffee, I'm as happy to choose The Telegraph, Financial Times, or The Times (or certain more regionally-based papers) as The Independent.

    Anyway, it;'s interesting that Dee, "a life-long Labour voted" [sic] has defected to Ukip, rather than to the Tories.

    Eek at the Financial Times.

    I think someone who defects from Labour to UKIP is not a very political voter. And Farage seems to do some kind of mental sleight of hand. People think, hey! He's one of us! Not like those smooth, over-privileged millionaires who lead the other parties! - which is not bad going for a man who went to a top public school and became a broker, compared with the comprehensive school boy who is a part-Polish part-Belgian son of Jewish immigrants
  • onfencewithrachonfencewithrach Posts: 6,479
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    I didn't think my opinion of her could get any lower... and then it did.
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    Its like having a stalker! Note you don't venture into SCD - scared? :D
    Petrified :D
    Of people who spend ages watching people who can't dance dancing, and then argue about it :p
    Not my natural habitat, I tend to migrate to calmer climes :D:D:D;-)
    As for this I accept she was entitled to the money but given her wealth it seems ..oh I don't know... greedy I suppose to take it.
    Couldn't agree with you more. I'll bet she's given many a speech on moral duty and social concience to people far worse off than she is. I know that entitlement is entitlement, but a slight moral consideration doesn't hurt.

    As I said before, once upon a time that would have been an overpayment without any fault on the part of the relevant Department, and she would have been required to repay it somehow - no question. There was absolutely no question of letting someone off because they didn't realise or forgot. Totally clear cut.
    No idea how it happens now, but either they've changed the rules - which is stupid as it worked before - or she refused to pay and it ended up in Court.
    Later thought - it could of course be that the DWP automatically goes for Court over a certain amount now.

    I know Dee bangs on about benefits being paid to people who don't deserve it (and despite the incongruence of the messenger, she's right of course), but there's at least as much mileage in broadcasting the money wasted by the DWP and their predecessors in benefits overpayments due to their mistakes or not clawing back fraud.

    I'm really going to have to work on the one-liners before the next CBB ;-):D
  • VeriVeri Posts: 96,996
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    Eek at the Financial Times.

    I think someone who defects from Labour to UKIP is not a very political voter. And Farage seems to do some kind of mental sleight of hand. People think, hey! He's one of us! Not like those smooth, over-privileged millionaires who lead the other parties! - which is not bad going for a man who went to a top public school and became a broker, compared with the comprehensive school boy who is a part-Polish part-Belgian son of Jewish immigrants

    Speaking of The Independent and Nigel Farage, I read The Times and The Independent today with my coffee, and I was a bit shocked to page through The Independent and find he'd written a column for them. :eek:

    Is it every day, every week, every month, a one-off?

    Anyway, there he was in populist mode, with some praise or Russell Brand and the Guy Fawkes protesters and saying:

    "Everywhere you look there is discontent with the mainstream, the establishment, with the corporatist politics that we've been spoon-fed for the past few decades. Never more so was this evident than this week in the mid-term elections in the United States, and in the Parliament Square protests that took place on Wednesday evening in London."

    Slight of hand indeed! Somehow the Rebublican (! :eek: :confused: !) victories in the American mid-term election are transmuted into an example of discontent with the establishment and corporatist politics. It's almost like saying votes for the Tories show the public's disgust with widening inequality and bankers' bonuses.

    Meanwhile, in The Times, there was a column praising Barack Obma. To be sure, it wasn't done without some digs at the Clintons and even JFK, but still.

    Nonetheless, The Independent came out slightly ahead in the amount of interestingly readable content, with even the Farage column counting in its favour. I think it was the review section that tipped the balance, though.
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