Man dies after being forced to attend Atos/DWP assessment when he shouldnt of had to
barrcode88
Posts: 6,849
Forum Member
✭
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/man-who-ill-attend-fit-for-work-3177803
Really have no words to say, look at the treatment he got there in his hour of need.
Really have no words to say, look at the treatment he got there in his hour of need.
0
Comments
R.I.P you poor man
ESA50 Form What did they write in the ESA50 about any difficulty in attending or not being able to attend a face-to-face assessment?
When they were sent the letter requesting they attend a face to face assessment, was it worded as follows Did they phone up ATOS before trying to attend despite the state of their health?
Well most of the time they take no notice of what you have written down, thousands of people are sent to a assessment centres that are not wheel chair friendly, although this is on the form, I have not had this once, but 3 times, you can cancel your appointment once, after that your money is stopped, I have always get them to cancel my first appointment because I demand a recorded assessment, which they have to get the recording equipment in because they have to share equipment between centres, when you phone up to tell them they cannot tell you over the phone when your next appointment will be because they don't know when they can get the equipment so it is passed to a different department. I have even known people have their money stopped for not attending when it has been atos who have canceld the appointment.
If they can get someone to do it, atos have admitted their brand name has been damaged, I as so wonder if it has effected them getting other private sector contracts, Also the DWP has fined atos and capita for failings in the new contract of PIP and the contracts have not been running a year yet. Most people feel that atos are being used as the scape goats, for the failing of the WCA which was designed by the DWP, not atos
I'm sure there's a company out there who will happily take the money. Both of the parties have too much tied up in the idea that GPs can't be trusted to go back to the old system now.
People on Employment and Support Allowance will not be automatically
retested until another firm can be brought into help,
a leaked memo has revealed Ministers have been forced to halt medical
checks on sick and disabled people because of the shambles engulfing hated firm Atos.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/atos-crisis-fit-to-work-checks-shelved-3180876
The old system was not done by GPs, it was done by doctors employed by the DWP.
If you're someone in his condition, I would imagine that logical thinking isn't really high on the agenda - the poor man was probably terrified that any perceived mis-step would cost him his benefits.
But then that won't stop plenty of people on DS trying to downplay it and blame it on "tabloid sensationalism" rather than blame the Government and Ian Duncan Voldermort.
Its all ending in a big mess, even today they are still trying to blame the labour government. Yet it was this government that extended the contract, and changed the WCA ,
Fair enough. I'm not sure I'm old enough to remember.
The article mentions polycytheamia and liver disease. Looking at the old DWP list of medical conditions that should or should not be asked to attend an assessment polycythemia is not on the list so would come under Any other Diagnosis Not listed above should be referred to a Medical Adviser, and liver failure is Reference to Medical Advisor. So under that list a medical adviser would or should be consulted before the claimant is asked or not asked to attend an assessment. I am unsure if this list is supposed to still be in use or if the current or previous government has removed this safe guard so contributing to the death.
I am just pleased that when I eventually depart this world, it will be without a terrible conscience.
To be honest I have got to the stage were it seems the rule books have been thrown out of the window, the DWP say atos were not given targets, but atos trainers are shown and seen on camera, saying targets have been set. And any adviser putting more then 12% of people into the support group would have their work checked and reviewed, and also admitting this assessment is to get people off benefits. http://youtu.be/YkzHxXg0rfQ This is the full video http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xwg0up_atos-secret-filming_news
But seriously people how does attending an ATOS hearing cause you to contract pneumonia? This is what he died of.
I think the wording of the request to attend a face-to-face assessment should be amended, to make it clear that if you are incapable of attending due to your health or risk to your health of doing so you don't need to attend.
I also think that in the assessment no requests to perform any physical action should be made to someone with a physical health problem unless the assessor is qualified to give an expert medical opinion on the claimants medical condition. As attempting the task requested could cause the claimant pain, discomfort or harm. And no one unqualified to give an expert medical opinion on mental condition should be asking people with mental conditions anything about their mental health. As asking someone with say a history or suicide attempts about their suicide attempts could result in them committing suicide, and asking someone about the cause of say a trauma caused personality disorder may also be harmful, etc.
Yes you are attend or lose your benefits.