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Who are more successful: Take That or One Direction?
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obviously it's 1D.
westlife is bigger than take that i must say. worldwide
In this country Take That, worldwide probably One Direction.
"Fans and hysteria," huh? I kind of doubt that. 1D's fanbase is much larger than Take That's was simply because it has a wide international spread. Most importantly, they are popular in one country that no British boy band has ever become big in before, and that country happens to be more important to their success right now than the UK is.
IMO, losing the US market would honestly hurt 1D a lot more than losing the UK market would. Some UK Directioners seemed to have left 1D behind just because they became popular in the US. This is what's allowing the Vamps, Union J, etc. to make a dent.
Take That definitely has sold more records, mostly because record sales were much better than then than they are now.
Which kind of sounds like you weren't around during Take That's heyday. Which kind of means you haven't a clue what you're talking about.
but 1 direction
much bigger following in my opinion
You're obviously too young to remember the Take That hysteria. All this crazyness and fandom for 1D is nothing compared to what ti was like when Take That were around.
Worldwide yes, certainly not in this country.
One Direction's three albums combined have sold 2.63 million. Internationally it's easily 1D though.
Even boybands that came after TT post 1996 had a much smoother ride due to websites/advanced media.
Boybands were also more defined and accepted in charts and marketed straight to that core audience more efficently and the quick way to the top was mapped out through the likes of NKOTB/TT before them so now boybands don't have Take That's early misses.
Take That's early triumph was where they were/started (domestic flops) and what they became (the biggest pop band in Europe and briefly World Back For Good/Nobody Else era)
Spreading the word back then was word of mouth or a card with a fan address on mainly.
There is a deep rooted loyalty to Take That in the UK/Europe as their struggles been documented they didn't have it all and flopped but worked for it and became better musicians and got it all. They had to force their way into the charts with no big money behind them and ended up inspiring Backstreet Boys/Nsync as well as obviously all the European boybands that followed. Both US groups have said many times they wanted TT European success when they started out in 95/96 and that they are their favourite non US boyband.
One Direction obviously have America but with Take That they were falling apart when they were top 10 in the US, Robbie had left and the group had decided to split so US success in late 1995 was just a swansong unable to capitalise further. If Robbie had stayed who knows what would have happened.
Take That were a pop phenomena in UK, Europe and Australia mainly.
At this point in time, 1D should already have beaten the combined US album sales of Take That, Westlife, Boyzone, Five, BBMak, A1, JLS, and The Wanted.
1D get the better worldwide success though, Westlife even did better worldwide than Take That but Take That's success in Britain puts the rest to shame, 45 million records sold, at least 1/4 from Britain alone even 1/3
When there's only five main channels, one MTV (which almost no-one watches), a couple of magazines and no internet, it's relatively easy to reach saturation coverage in a way that is just no longer possible.
If you weren't around for both eras, it's easy to assume this is how it's always been, but those of us who've been there for both know better.
True but Take That are still far and ahead the most successful boyband ever in Europe with minimum certified album sales of 17 million from the IFPI. For this continent and with Take That possibly continuing to release albums including a Greatest Hits Vol 2/Best Of I don't think they'll be caught.
Minimum certified sales (Europe Platinum = 1,000,000 minimum album sales across Europe for an album to be awarded)
1.Take That 17 million
2.Westlife 12 million
3.Backstreet Boys 11 million
4.Boyzone 7 million
5.Blue 5 million
Some others outside top 5: Busted/East 17/Five 2 million, One Direction also currently 2 million. Platinum award for first two albums.
Boyz II Men/Hanson/JLS/Worlds Apart 1 million album European certification.
I agree with above posts who point out how hard it is for persons in a technology heavy world to understand the fame of pop acts previously like Take That who were around in more concentrated and limited media times.
Fixed my post
Yes they were the first British boyband (1990 onwards) to go top ten in America and their peak was only beaten by the Wanted and then One Direction two years ago and a good 17 years later to happen singles wise for a British boyband.
Bearing in mind only one other Brit boyband 5ive had a top ten single throughout the whole of the 90's in America. That in itself was an achievement.
There are loads of early interviews going right up till early 1995 of TT saying they aren't focussed or bothered by America and that for them Europe and Asia/Japan and Australia were their main focus. There's loads of interviews where they say they have opted to either go back to those places again instead of America. Wouldn't take long to find some on youtube.
They never did one radio tour or appearances in the US and only promoted in America once BFG took off. Which they had decided to promote in America as Robbie had already left and the band was agreed to coming to an end so by late 1995 and with the song having already been #1 in 31 nations around the world including Canada the group saw it as a swansong in the US to give the record a fair try and leave on a high in America as well as around the World.
So basically success is never going to happen if you never try in the first place and Take That didn't in America, no hype from the record company, promo or radio tours. This is in Gary's book. He did however try hard as a solo artist in the US and did promo/radio tours but not throughout Take That. Much like they don't release their new albums in America now.
So Gary may have hated the fact they didn't take those opportunities in hindsight but at the time the whole band agreed and went to where they/the music was wanted and appreciated instead of cynically trying to break a certain market. They realised the scene in the US was very rap, grunge and r'n'b and not pop friendly and certainly not Take That's style. Huge boybands at the time were Boyz II Men, All-4-One, Color Me Badd so it was seen as a non starter as opposed to the rest of the World which did enjoy their style of pop.
Agree with above post they have achieved amazingly without US dollars and the multi millions albums can sell there. Success can be down to fate and circumstances something One Direction know all too well. If we are talking America it wasn't the right time/accessible for Take That it is for One Direction. That's just how it goes.
try to search for take that's position in itunes chart dowbloads, almost none of their songs/ albums are charting