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Stabbing Burglars will be Legal
loz
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Says Ken Clarke
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13957587
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13957587
Justice Secretary Ken Clarke has said a householder who knifes a burglar will not have committed a criminal offence under plans to clarify the law on self-defence in England.
He told the BBC people were entitled to use "whatever force necessary" to protect themselves and their homes.
"It's quite obvious that people are entitled to use whatever force is necessary to protect themselves and their homes," Mr Clarke said.
We will make it quite clear you can hit the burglar with the poker if he's in the house and you have a perfect defence when you do so”
Asked about what this would mean in practice, he said: "If an old lady finds she's got an 18 year old burgling her house and she picks up a kitchen knife and sticks it in him she has not committed a criminal offence and we will make that clear."
He added: "We will make it quite clear you can hit the burglar with the poker if he's in the house and you have a perfect defence when you do so."
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From Wikipedia.
Those in favour of this would agree with his acquittal?
Yes I thought that too. Is this just smokes and mirrors then?
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I would. Fordham was dressed all in black with a balaclava on, for all Noye knew it was someone coming to try and do him in. I've no sympathy for Kenny Noye mind you, he robbed Stephen Cameron of his life at such a young age.
They should give the old walking sticks with a high voltage taser on the end of it.
He also robbed a police officer of his and left a widow and kids to grow up without a father. The officer was unarmed and made clear to Noye who he was and offered no resistance to Noye. Clearly he did not need to stab him to death.
What if the old lady stabs the burglar in the back while he's leaving the property? Surely there must be a distinction between self defence and murder?
Noye is an evil POS and knew exactly what he was doing.
Oh, I didn't know that:o In that case, I don't agree with his acquittal for that killing, but it's a moot point as the authorities have got Noye now, and they will never let him out because of what he did to Fordham and Cameron - and I'm glad he will be behind bars for the rest of his life. I still think householders should have more rights to defend themselves against burglars though.
What's this supposed to mean? Anyone who breaks into someone elses house is not going there for a cuppa and a chat about Corrie, are they?
People can stab, shoot, and kick criminals now if circumstances warrant it, and I cant see Clarke coming up with a definition to improve what is already in place. They will cause mayhem if they try, because a firm definition will restrict the option of treating each case on merit.
Totally agree with you there, that was my initial thought after Cameron's little speech last week.
Indeed. I doubt most burglars want to come across householders, so the best course of action is to stay where you are if people suspect someone is in their home. I'm always amazed when people go to confront a burglar.
I very much doubt that people will suddenly be allowed to stab a burglar 50 times in the back or chase him down the path and then stab him in the back of the head. It does sound no different to what is already in place.
Okay, you got me on that one.
That's what it's supposed to mean.
(PS InB4tealady)