No not really as hetrosexual couples can not have civil partnerships, the inequality has just shifted.
If the aim is for all couples to be able to have marriages and civil partnerships then we're one step closer to that... I stand by my statement that society is more equal today than it was yesterday.
I can only speak for myself, but they can dump CPs as soon as they like as they were never wanted in the first place. They were an insulting cop out.
Later in the year people in CPs can convert them to Marriages if they want to.
You speak of CPs like they are something gay people demanded and were excited about having. They were just a cop out because they refused to give us marriage.
Obviously, now that they have finally done the right thing, they are still left with the total mess that they created.
Okay I am not a supporter of Gay Marriage (religious views). But I have a question.
If I got married to a lady, we would more likely be Mr and Mrs Smith (often it seems the Male surname continues).
But these same sex weddings that are in place, are they adapting to one surname or keeping both? Just in case I do meet a newly wed couple, don't want to address them as Mr and Mr Smith, whne it is Mr Smith and Mr Jones.
The world is changing and I need to know the rules.
No not really as hetrosexual couples can not have civil partnerships, the inequality has just shifted.
I've a feeling that one will be resolved before this year is out. The government now either needs to phase CPs out or change their purpose to become more like the French PACS (a marriage-lite as it were), but before they change CPs at all they need to outline how same-sex couples currently in them can convert their union to a marriage should they wish to.
Okay I am not a supporter of Gay Marriage (religious views). But I have a question.
If I got married to a lady, we would more likely be Mr and Mrs Smith (often it seems the Male surname continues).
But these same sex weddings that are in place, are they adapting to one surname or keeping both? Just in case I do meet a newly wed couple, don't want to address them as Mr and Mr Smith, whne it is Mr Smith and Mr Jones.
The world is changing and I need to know the rules.
Well that line sums it up nicely. There are certainly no laws that state a woman has to take the man's surname, so all it has been is a social convention. That can and has been changing and evolving all the time. There is a relatively new trend of 'commoners' bolting both names together and becoming double-barrelled surnames. (Neither partner wishing to give up their surname.) - Of course aristocracy has been doing that for years, but normal everyday people are doing that more and more.
So there are no laws and social rules can be adhered to, dropped or changed at will.
It really doesn't matter now what the set up is: Man and Woman, Woman and Woman, Man and Man, the couple talk about it and decide what name they wish to be known by.
It is also not very well known, that you can call yourself whatever you wish at any time and you are not breaking any law by doing so. It's just that for any legal reasons where you need to be identified they prefer that that name is registered somewhere. You do that but Deed Poll. That is just an official document that says from now on, I am calling myself John Smith. (For completeness: Of course if you are calling yourself something different for fraudulent reasons, then you are breaking the law, but the law of fraud, not that you have changed you name. You will have done so to try and commit fraud)
So in the end the couples decide what they will be known as and that includes straight couples as well.
Okay I am not a supporter of Gay Marriage (religious views). But I have a question.
If I got married to a lady, we would more likely be Mr and Mrs Smith (often it seems the Male surname continues).
But these same sex weddings that are in place, are they adapting to one surname or keeping both? Just in case I do meet a newly wed couple, don't want to address them as Mr and Mr Smith, whne it is Mr Smith and Mr Jones.
The world is changing and I need to know the rules.
There is no requirement in an opposite sex marriage for the wife to take the husband's name. It's entirely optional.
One aspect of the current law that this brings up though is that currently there is no automatic way for a husband in an opposite sex marriage to take his wife's surname should they wish. It has to go through a Deed Poll arrangement. That's something that could do with being looked at, and it would probably also be the time when the situation regarding same-sex couples could be included.
People are equal, nobody has the right to decide what is right or wrong as far as another person's sexuality is concerned. You are who you are, so lovely, about time.
They better not get their own parking space at the shops though.
The best part about this for me is that I'm picturing homophobes all around the UK seeing this news and ranting in their livingrooms about how unfair and unethical it is.
The best part about this for me is that I'm picturing homophobes all around the UK seeing this news and ranting in their livingrooms about how unfair and unethical it is.
BRILLIANT!!!!
Even worse, it's a lovely sunny day in most parts of the country so they can't even claim biblical gloom and doom has happened as a result.
People are equal, nobody has the right to decide what is right or wrong as far as another person's sexuality is concerned. You are who you are, so lovely, about time.
They better not get their own parking space at the shops though.
There'll be hell tp pay if they get their own parking bays nearer the entrance
Someone help me out and tell me what LGBT stands for. I know it should be obvious...
Okay I am not a supporter of Gay Marriage (religious views). But I have a question.
If I got married to a lady, we would more likely be Mr and Mrs Smith (often it seems the Male surname continues).
But these same sex weddings that are in place, are they adapting to one surname or keeping both? Just in case I do meet a newly wed couple, don't want to address them as Mr and Mr Smith, whne it is Mr Smith and Mr Jones.
The world is changing and I need to know the rules.
I think much like heterosexuals, it's down to choice. I would keep my surname regardless of which gender I married, (i'm a girl), my friend who is engaged to another woman says she'll take her partners name as she'd always liked that idea when she's growing up. And my mum's friends are married and kept their own last names. Maybe just call them Mr and Mr Jones as it's acknowledging the marital tradition, then if you were mistaken they'd correct you, I'm sure very few people would be offended if they'd kept their own name.
It's one small step for man,one giant leap for mankind.Good on them.:cool:
I still feel uncomfortable( and maybe even disgusted) when i see 2 men kissing though.:(
I think a lot of people do. Doesn't really bother me but my DH and Mum nearly sicked their Lunch up when kissing men came on tv today.
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No not really as hetrosexual couples can not have civil partnerships, the inequality has just shifted.
If the aim is for all couples to be able to have marriages and civil partnerships then we're one step closer to that... I stand by my statement that society is more equal today than it was yesterday.
One aspect of inequality has remained.No aspect of inequality has been shifted.
Later in the year people in CPs can convert them to Marriages if they want to.
You speak of CPs like they are something gay people demanded and were excited about having. They were just a cop out because they refused to give us marriage.
Obviously, now that they have finally done the right thing, they are still left with the total mess that they created.
If I got married to a lady, we would more likely be Mr and Mrs Smith (often it seems the Male surname continues).
But these same sex weddings that are in place, are they adapting to one surname or keeping both? Just in case I do meet a newly wed couple, don't want to address them as Mr and Mr Smith, whne it is Mr Smith and Mr Jones.
The world is changing and I need to know the rules.
Well that line sums it up nicely. There are certainly no laws that state a woman has to take the man's surname, so all it has been is a social convention. That can and has been changing and evolving all the time. There is a relatively new trend of 'commoners' bolting both names together and becoming double-barrelled surnames. (Neither partner wishing to give up their surname.) - Of course aristocracy has been doing that for years, but normal everyday people are doing that more and more.
So there are no laws and social rules can be adhered to, dropped or changed at will.
It really doesn't matter now what the set up is: Man and Woman, Woman and Woman, Man and Man, the couple talk about it and decide what name they wish to be known by.
It is also not very well known, that you can call yourself whatever you wish at any time and you are not breaking any law by doing so. It's just that for any legal reasons where you need to be identified they prefer that that name is registered somewhere. You do that but Deed Poll. That is just an official document that says from now on, I am calling myself John Smith. (For completeness: Of course if you are calling yourself something different for fraudulent reasons, then you are breaking the law, but the law of fraud, not that you have changed you name. You will have done so to try and commit fraud)
So in the end the couples decide what they will be known as and that includes straight couples as well.
One aspect of the current law that this brings up though is that currently there is no automatic way for a husband in an opposite sex marriage to take his wife's surname should they wish. It has to go through a Deed Poll arrangement. That's something that could do with being looked at, and it would probably also be the time when the situation regarding same-sex couples could be included.
They better not get their own parking space at the shops though.
Indeed. Nobody wanted the Nova SR if they could get the Nova GTE.
It's a start. It's a start.
BRILLIANT!!!!
Even worse, it's a lovely sunny day in most parts of the country so they can't even claim biblical gloom and doom has happened as a result.
Their straw house is falling to bits!
Shame!
There'll be hell tp pay if they get their own parking bays nearer the entrance
Someone help me out and tell me what LGBT stands for. I know it should be obvious...
Yeah, I don't want to be a Debbie-downer but this is unfair.
I think much like heterosexuals, it's down to choice. I would keep my surname regardless of which gender I married, (i'm a girl), my friend who is engaged to another woman says she'll take her partners name as she'd always liked that idea when she's growing up. And my mum's friends are married and kept their own last names. Maybe just call them Mr and Mr Jones as it's acknowledging the marital tradition, then if you were mistaken they'd correct you, I'm sure very few people would be offended if they'd kept their own name.
Gay
Bisexual
Transgendered
And no special parking places please. We want valet service!!
Sexist. ;-)
Ha, it is obvious now you say it. Valet service indeed!
I think a lot of people do. Doesn't really bother me but my DH and Mum nearly sicked their Lunch up when kissing men came on tv today.