Alien 5 - idea
I have had an idea for Alien 5 that could retcon Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection into a continuity where the original Ripley, Hicks, Newt and Bishop survive.
We know Ripley is prone to vivid nightmares due to her experiences with the Aliens.
Could Alien 5 begin with a sequence showing that the events depicted in Alien 3 and Resurrection were just dreams (it could be handled kinda like the flash back sequence at the start of Alien 3 showing quick dreamy cutscenes).
Do you think that could work to get the franchise back on track?
We know Ripley is prone to vivid nightmares due to her experiences with the Aliens.
Could Alien 5 begin with a sequence showing that the events depicted in Alien 3 and Resurrection were just dreams (it could be handled kinda like the flash back sequence at the start of Alien 3 showing quick dreamy cutscenes).
Do you think that could work to get the franchise back on track?
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It's a shame the Brothers Scheisse mucked up AVP: Requiem so badly, because the alien in a 21st century earth small town setting was such an awesome concept. That would be where I would have gone with Alien 5, a prequel.
They could easily make a good 5th one that continues from the first 4.
I think every movie from the Alien series is good, the first two are the best but the following two are also good.
Don't get me wrong, I really like Alien 3, especially the extended version - however I think the whole cloning thing in Resurrection was taking it too far, just to bring Ripley back.
By retconning in the way I have described, we get to keep Alien 3 and Ressurection as part of the continuity (for the fans of these films) - but also get to continue the story from where Aliens left off (for the people who don't like them).
I would have preferred it if Ridley Scott did an Alien 5 which continued from Resurrection than Prometheus.
Fair enough - different strokes for different folks.
Wow, great idea, we could have Ripley getting out of bed and going into the bathroom and there's an alien in the shower...
But for Scott, I would've prefered if he'd returned to Alien afresh as was first thought, and not a sequel or - as we got - some quasi-prequel hampered by what lies ahead. The iconic status of Alien is surely strong enough to benefit from a complete reboot/overhaul.
Nah - if that idea could have flown, they would have done it in the dream sequence in Aliens.
I personally think a reboot would be better than a 5th Alien film containing Sigourney's Ripley within the continuity set up by Resurrection.
The entire premise behind resurrection and the can of worms it opened with the Newborn was ridiculous (although as a scifi movie in its own right - it is quite enjoyable). Taking that continuity forward would be a mistake IMO.
Some might say that turning any of the movie sequels from 3 onwards into dream sequences would be a definite improvement to the franchise!!
In all seriousness, I'd rather they left it now, Scott himself gave a rather lack lustre attempt with Prometheus, and unless someone can give a truly interesting and new sci-fi angle to it it will just become even more tired and boring.
Whilst I do tend to agree, discussions around a 5th Alien film containing Ripley have been going on for years.
My idea was on the assumption that it may happen.
I was kinda thinking along the lines of an earth setting.
After the opening dream/flashback sequence - Ripley wakes from her nightmare in a sweat (like in Aliens). It is revealed that Ripley has in fact been living on earth for the past 20 odd years with Hicks. They adopted Newt who has since grown up and Hicks has become high ranking in the military. Unbeknownst to them, the company did manage to recover alien eggs from LV426 and have been using them to develop bio weapons on earth. During a test run or upon their deployment, things go awry.
In truth, any continuation of the Ripley story line will probably be a mistake.
Mistake No.1 - for the love of god, please don't have Ripley and Hicks as a romantic couple.
That future possibility was already alluded to in Aliens.
If any franchise needs a dream sequence then Godfather 3, Robocop 3, Matrix 3 and Beverly Hills Cop 3 should take precedence as they were all steaming piles of turd.
Thankfully ended in Alien 3.
Yeah, maybe Ripley was in Kansas after all. There's no place like home, etc...
Alien - One alien, no weapons
Aliens - Lots of aliens, lots of weapons
Alien 3 - One alien, no weapons
Alien Resurrection - Lots of aliens, lots of weapons.
It's started to get a bit repetitive so what we need is:
Alien 5 - One alien, lots of weapons
Alien 6 - Lots of aliens, no weapons
With the added benefit that we could get both films out of the way in about 10 minutes and then let the whole franchise finally rest in peace.
I think I agree.
Prometheus could be used as a brand new fresh start that begins a completely different Alien franchise that branches off into a different direction altogether.
It needn't even harm the original franchise as far as continuity and canon is concerned.
The Sigourney Weaver franchise went in one direction, some new characters go off into an altogether different direction.
after all thats what dr who does when none of the plotlines fit together .....
My idea was based only on the assumption that Alien 5 would continue the existing Ripley continuity (as early discussions around the possibility of Alien 5 have indicated). There would be no point creating a multiverse scenario with Ripley in it - you might as well do a reboot. Also - the whole multiverse or alternate timeline thing has been done to death.
Despite the unpopularity of my idea - I believe it does have some virtues.
1. It wouldn't invalidate Alien 3 or Resurrection. These movies would still stand as canon, albeit within Ripleys psyche. Just think of them as extended nightmare sequences - like the one from the beginning of Aliens.
2. It fits with existing canon. We know Ripley has terrible vivid dreams about the aliens (seen from a third person perspective), specifically being impregnated and birthing aliens. She is vehemently opposed to allowing the aliens to earth, or allowing the company/military to get hold of them to develop bioweapons. We also know that Ripley has a strong maternal connection with Newt and losing her would be extremely disturbing. All of these scenarios appear in Alien 3 and Resurrection - making them believable nightmare scenarios for Ripley.
3. It is (to my knowledge).....original
There's a good reason for that. Turning entire movies into dream sequences is a bit of a cop out.
Ripley's dreams were vivid but not to the point she would dream up something like Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection overnight.
I think the quadrilogy is fine the way it is and adding to it will only spoil it.
Just cut your loses:
Alien 5 - No aliens, no weapons, no film.