Boeing 777 crashes at San Fransico airport

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  • franciefrancie Posts: 31,089
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    "The pilot of a plane which crashed at San Francisco airport, killing two people, may have been temporarily blinded by a bright light as he came into land. Lee Kang Kuk, who was making his first landing at the airport and had just 43 hours' experience at the controls of the Boeing 777, said he saw a bright flash as he approached the runway.It happened around 35 seconds before impact when Asiana Airlines flight 214 was around 500ft (150m) off the ground - the point at which the aircraft began to slow down and drop steeply.Deborah Hersman, who chairs the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), said the use of lasers had not been ruled out."

    http://news.sky.com/story/1114261/san-francisco-crash-pilot-blinded-by-light
  • Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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    francie wrote: »
    "The pilot of a plane which crashed at San Francisco airport, killing two people, may have been temporarily blinded by a bright light as he came into land. Lee Kang Kuk, who was making his first landing at the airport and had just 43 hours' experience at the controls of the Boeing 777, said he saw a bright flash as he approached the runway.It happened around 35 seconds before impact when Asiana Airlines flight 214 was around 500ft (150m) off the ground - the point at which the aircraft began to slow down and drop steeply.Deborah Hersman, who chairs the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), said the use of lasers had not been ruled out."

    http://news.sky.com/story/1114261/san-francisco-crash-pilot-blinded-by-light

    I look forward to reading the voice recorder transcript,
  • AerickAerick Posts: 1,528
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    francie wrote: »
    "The pilot of a plane which crashed at San Francisco airport, killing two people, may have been temporarily blinded by a bright light as he came into land. Lee Kang Kuk, who was making his first landing at the airport and had just 43 hours' experience at the controls of the Boeing 777, said he saw a bright flash as he approached the runway.It happened around 35 seconds before impact when Asiana Airlines flight 214 was around 500ft (150m) off the ground - the point at which the aircraft began to slow down and drop steeply.Deborah Hersman, who chairs the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), said the use of lasers had not been ruled out."

    http://news.sky.com/story/1114261/san-francisco-crash-pilot-blinded-by-light

    Could be anything or nothing. There's a highway running parallel to the runway (on the mainland side) and not too far, could have been a car, or a camera (you notice all the videos of the plane burning by people come from parks/parking lots etc on that side). He seemingly was low enough that it could have been a reflection off a car or other. I would think a laser would show up in that main crash video espeically around the time the aircraft drops suddenly. Plus, I would imagine there'd be some sort of audible 'gasp' or 'reaction' to something blinding him.

    But still, do you think if there was anything, would it have impacted him enough to alter the controls in any way? What about the person in the #2 seat.

    I agree, cockpit audio is going to be interesting. I am curious if it gets released to the public at all.
  • Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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    Aerick wrote: »

    I agree, cockpit audio is going to be interesting. I am curious if it gets released to the public at all.
    As it America, almost certainly it will be released, and probably sooner rather than later.
  • clm2071clm2071 Posts: 6,641
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    Dr. Claw wrote: »

    ?!? Is this a real news show? Surely not?...
  • Dr. ClawDr. Claw Posts: 7,375
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    unfortunately yes its a real (local) news station
    EARLIER IN THE NEWSCAST WE GAVE SOME NAMES OF PILOTS INVOLVED IN THE ASIANA AIRLINES CRASH. THESE NAMES WERE NOT ACCURATE DESPITE AN N-T-S-B OFFICIAL IN WASHINGTON CONFIRMING THEM LATE THIS MORNING. WE APOLOGIZE FOR THIS ERROR.
  • clm2071clm2071 Posts: 6,641
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    Dr. Claw wrote: »
    unfortunately yes its a real (local) news station

    Yeah, I've been reading about it. How on earth did this go to air? Surely someone must have realised.....someone will be looking for a new job come next week I expect
  • Jason100Jason100 Posts: 17,222
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    Apparently a us station was given prank names of the pilots which they gave out on air.

    Whoops, didn't realise that this was being discussed already. I just hit reply when i found out about the prank names.
  • SaturnVSaturnV Posts: 11,519
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    Journalists just want to be the first with the news, absolutely any old cobblers will do.
    This is as bad as 'Cake' being discussed in parliament.
  • cnbcwatchercnbcwatcher Posts: 56,681
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    Dr. Claw wrote: »

    I hate to admit it but that's actually really funny :D
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,126
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    Dr. Claw wrote: »

    Made my f.e.c.k.i.n.g :oday...I wonder if this video will go viral!!
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 32,379
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    Dr. Claw wrote: »

    You think that's funny:confused: People have been killed:rolleyes:
  • Dr. ClawDr. Claw Posts: 7,375
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    woodbush wrote: »
    You think that's funny:confused: People have been killed:rolleyes:

    I'll have you know I am particularly saddened by the death of Ho Lee Fuk
  • clm2071clm2071 Posts: 6,641
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    On a more serious note, 3rd passenger has died in hospital.

    Also confirmed that one of the 2 passengers who were previously known to have died was found amongst fire fighting foam and the tracks of emergency vehicles - still not clear if she survived the crash itself only to be run over.
  • Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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    From The National Transportation Safety Board .....

    http://www.ntsb.gov/news/2013/130712.html
    The National Transportation Safety Board apologizes for inaccurate and offensive names that were mistakenly confirmed as those of the pilots of Asiana flight 214, which crashed at San Francisco International Airport on July 6.

    Earlier today, in response to an inquiry from a media outlet, a summer intern acted outside the scope of his authority when he erroneously confirmed the names of the flight crew on the aircraft.

    The NTSB does not release or confirm the names of crewmembers or people involved in transportation accidents to the media. We work hard to ensure that only appropriate factual information regarding an investigation is released and deeply regret today's incident.

    Appropriate actions will be taken to ensure that such a serious error is not repeated
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    ...and looks like someone else is in trouble
    http://thedesk.matthewkeys.net/2013/07/12/ktvu-erroneously-names-asiana-flight-214-pilots/
    When the station inaccurately reported the pilot names on Friday, KTVU producer Brad Belstock tweeted “Oh sh*t.” Belstock later deleted his Twitter account.

    The on air apology
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug5zKwJuWbU
    On its evening newscast, anchor Frank Somerville elaborated on the on-air blunder, explaining that the station made “several mistakes” after receiving the names from a source. The station declined to identify that source.

    “First, we never read the names out loud, phonetically sounding them out,” he said. “Then, during our phone call to the NTSB where the person confirmed the spellings of the names, we never asked that person to give us their position with the agency.

    “We heard this person verify the information without questioning who they were and then rushed the names on our noon newscast.”



    http://www.aaja.org/ktvu-gaffe/
    Words cannot adequately express the outrage we, at the Asian American Journalists Association, feel over KTVU’s on-air blunder that made a mockery of the Asiana Airlines tragedy and offended so many loyal viewers of the San Francisco Bay Area station..
    Oh come of it. It was bad, but faux outrage is worse than the stations mistake
  • Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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    The airline at the centre of a San Francisco plane crash that killed three people says it will sue a broadcaster for mistakenly airing fake pilot names.

    Asiana Airlines says KTVU damaged the airline's reputation with the "racially discriminatory report" against Asians and will file a lawsuit in the US.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23321740
    I would have thought they had more important things to worry about.

    Unless of course its a way to put pressure on NTSB
  • PlatinumStevePlatinumSteve Posts: 4,295
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    Keiō Line wrote: »
    From The National Transportation Safety Board .....

    http://www.ntsb.gov/news/2013/130712.html
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    ...and looks like someone else is in trouble
    http://thedesk.matthewkeys.net/2013/07/12/ktvu-erroneously-names-asiana-flight-214-pilots/


    The on air apology
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug5zKwJuWbU




    http://www.aaja.org/ktvu-gaffe/

    Oh come of it. It was bad, but faux outrage is worse than the stations mistake

    Did you see now that Asiana wants to try to sue KTVU and the NTSB, hahah like they haven't gotten enough bad US publicity after they belly flopped a plane, now they want to go after a joke. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57593696/asiana-airlines-confirms-it-will-sue-ktvu-tv-over-broadcast-of-racist-fake-pilot-names/

    ETA: oops overlooked your BBC link.
  • SaturnVSaturnV Posts: 11,519
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    Keiō Line wrote: »

    Loving the irony of a journalist patronisingly pointing out the blatantly obvious hoax names, in one case helpfully explaining one name by reproducing it verbatim in brackets.
    The hoax was obvious to everyone except a journalist (or team of journalists and editors) in a blind rush to be the first with any old bs.
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