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    psionicpsionic Posts: 20,188
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    FGS, Cameron's face looks like it belongs in Thomas the f**king Tank Engine, not on an inspirational poster!

    ETA: http://i39.tinypic.com/1535riu.jpg

    LOL :D
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    Biffo the BearBiffo the Bear Posts: 25,859
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    BrumBallBrumBall Posts: 2,060
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    nethwen wrote: »
    I like that one much better.

    I watched the paper review on the BBC News channel a little earlier, and it was generally agreed that the Sun's picture of Cameron looks like something out of the USSR. :D

    The pic is supposed to be equating Cameron with Obama. As if! :rolleyes:

    Well apparently Obama's approval ratings aren't very high now so maybe the Sun are anti-tory after all!
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    Dave HawkDave Hawk Posts: 6,654
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    Yep, serves to remind you where the 'con' in Conservative comes from really.

    The 'Crash of 2008' was the logical conclusion of the Reagan-Thatcher experiment; indeed, the "cult of neoliberalism" now seems as dated as revolutionary socialism

    It's time 'New Liberalism' (aka modern or social), which gave us the Golden Age of Capitalism, returned :)
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    nethwennethwen Posts: 23,374
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    The Sun's only hope is more soft porn!

    Where I used to work (large post office)

    One guy used to "read" the Sun all day

    Now If I was PM (here we go!) I would ban tits out in NEWSpapers (unless the story called for it)

    Oh and Cameroon is hardly Churchill is he?

    Need Lib Dem's in to upset the apple cart and stop the gravy train!

    Wasn't it Derek Jamieson (sp?) who started the Page 3 malarchy?
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    Dave HawkDave Hawk Posts: 6,654
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    BrumBall wrote: »
    Well apparently Obama's opinion polls aren't very high now so maybe the Sun are anti-tory after all!

    His approvals are tracking Reagan's. As of January 1983, Reagan was toast. The monetarism of the early 1980s caused that recession, but the economy recovered, in time, thanks to deficit spending and lower interest rates

    Reagan supply-side tax cuts of 1981 were supposed to see the US economy grow by 5% in 1982, well it didn't ;)

    The Republican answer, in 2009, was $3 trillion in tax cuts (skewed in favour of those to which they are, ideologically, beholden), in addition to making the Bush tax cuts permanent [fat lot of use they were, given his record on jobs is the worst of any president this side of Herbert Hoover]. Obama signed into law a rather more modest $787bn stimulus package. He deferred too much to Congress on that. Should have had Keynesian economists write that bill

    The irony is that the American upper class (the 'super rich') skews Democratic
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    Biffo the BearBiffo the Bear Posts: 25,859
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    Dave Hawk wrote: »
    The 'Crash of 2008' was the logical conclusion of the Reagan-Thatcher experiment; indeed, the "cult of neoliberalism" now seems as dated as revolutionary socialism

    It's time 'New Liberalism' (aka modern or social), which gave us the Golden Age of Capitalism, returned :)

    Actually, I think it's time to implement a global maximum wage in order to generate a zero inflationary environment, thus preventing speculation and financial gambling from ever screwing up the worldwide economy ever again.

    Adam Smith was a charlatan in my eyes.
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    astorastor Posts: 575
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    Idiot paper with an idiot front page.

    What exactly do the Sun readers think that David Cameron is going to do for them?

    Reduce their inheritance tax, allow them to hunt with dogs, get Cleggy involved and intoduce solar lighting into a few housing estates, cut the carbon emissions in Tower Hamlets, give amnesty to overseas workers in areas already overcrowded and full of resentment.

    Is it all a massive game to the editors of these papers?
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    Biffo the BearBiffo the Bear Posts: 25,859
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    astor wrote: »
    Idiot paper with an idiot front page.

    What exactly do the Sun readers think that David Cameron is going to do for them?

    Reduce their inheritance tax, allow them to hunt with dogs, get Cleggy involved and intoduce solar lighting into a few housing estates, cut the carbon emissions in Tower Hamlets, give amnesty to overseas workers in areas already overcrowded and full of resentment.

    Is it all a massive game to the editors of these papers?

    Yep, one big game. The people who control this are so ridiculously wealthy, that they couldn't be further removed from what we consider to be 'normal society' if they tried.
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    Dave HawkDave Hawk Posts: 6,654
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    Actually, I think it's time to implement a global maximum wage in order to generate a zero inflationary environment, thus preventing speculation and financial gambling from ever screwing up the worldwide economy ever again.

    Adam Smith was a charlatan in my eyes.

    Re-enacting the Glass-Steagall Act would be a good start. Very few banks failed while that was on the books

    It's repeal was pushed by the GOP-Congress, and supported by many Democrats, and signed into law by Clinton (he had to work with wingnuts). A leading dissenting voice was Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-ND) - a farming state progressive populist-type - who foresaw a crisis of the 2008 magnitude as consequence of its repeal

    And the way things are heading, Obama could await the same fate - a Republican Congress [shudders]

    Nevertheless, I'd take Clinton's 'Third Way' - the ethos of a bottom-up driven economy was there - over George W's 'compassionate conservatism'
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 13,672
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    It just reminds me of the old Comminist art from the USSR in the 1920s/30s
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    Dave HawkDave Hawk Posts: 6,654
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    Yep, one big game. The people who control this are so ridiculously wealthy, that they couldn't be further removed from what we consider to be 'normal society' if they tried.

    Obama's approach is to, modestly, raise taxes on the primary beneficiaries of the Bush supply-tax cuts back to the levels they were under Clinton

    He's got a fight on his hands
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    Biffo the BearBiffo the Bear Posts: 25,859
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    Dave Hawk wrote: »
    Re-enacting the Glass-Steagall Act would be a good start. Very few banks failed while that was on the books

    It's repeal was pushed by the GOP-Congress, and supported by many Democrats, and signed into law by Clinton (he had to work with wingnuts). A leading dissenting voice was Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-ND) - a farming state progressive populist-type - who foresaw a crisis of the 2008 magnitude as consequence of its repeal

    And the way things are heading, Obama could await the same fate - a Republican Congress [shudders]

    Nevertheless, I'd take Clinton's 'Third Way' - the ethos of a bottom-up driven economy was there - over George W's 'compassionate conservatism'

    Ohh just imagine the howls of righteous indignation if they brought back something similar..

    "But you're going to restrict what we'll be able to do!"

    EXACTLY.
    Dave Hawk wrote: »
    Obama's approach is to, modestly, raise taxes on the primary beneficiaries of the Bush supply-tax cuts back to the levels they were under Clinton

    He's got a fight on his hands

    Of course he has - these people are very holier than thou and self-admittedly pure, until someone steps in to rein them back slightly.

    I don't think he's got a fight on his hands, as I wouldn't expect the legislation to get past a first sitting. There are way too many lobbying influences and corporate interests in the Senate. People think our lot can be bad sometimes - they don't have a patch on our American cousins!
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    Dave HawkDave Hawk Posts: 6,654
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    Of course he has - these people are very holier than thou and self-admittedly pure, until someone steps in to rein them back slightly.

    I don't think he's got a fight on his hands, as I wouldn't expect the legislation to get past a first sitting. There are way too many lobbying influences and corporate interests in the Senate. People think our lot can be bad sometimes - they don't have a patch on our American cousins!

    Especially given the conservative wing in his party. If there is a centre-right in the US, it's among Democrats. Liberal Republicans? Virtually extinct. Look at how Vermont has become so uber Democratic, at the presidential level. It had voted Democratic once - the LBJ landslide of 1964 - pre-1988. As for the Deep South, they'd voted for Democrats more liberal, economically, than Obama in years gone by

    Do you know? In 1987, or thereabouts, a bill passed a Democratic Congress that cut taxes on the rich but raised them on the poor and middle class
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