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Problems with ex-mother inlaw

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I am writing this on behalf of a friend.

Her ex mother in law visits her every day. Even when she has been told that my friend is busy on numerous occasions she still visits. It has reached a point where my friend continues to carry out her chores even when the ex mother in law is visiting. She phones constantly. My friend has now stopped answering her phonecalls incase it is the ex mother in law on the other end of the phone.

My poor friend is very very frustrated and angry however she does not want to insult her ex mother in law but can't seem to find a way of letting her know gently (my friend has on occasion failed to answer the door knowing it is her at the door).

Her ex mother in law has been good to her in the past but she has been divorced from her son for a number of years now (nearly 10) and does not want any dealings with him what so ever. The only connection now is through her daughter who is now 21 years old (only child).

I was hoping you fellow DS members could help with a solution.

Thanks for reading :)

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,486
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    So she has a 21 year old grand daughter? That seems to be the 'problem'

    Granted everyday is excessive but it is her granddaughter that still links you
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    hugsiehugsie Posts: 17,497
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    Has she tried speaking to the ex mil?
    Telling her that, while she cares for her and appreciates her staying in touch, she really cannot see her every day.

    What is the worst that can happen?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 35
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    No it's not the grand daughter because she is at work everyday which is when the ex mother in law comes to the house.

    The same at the weekends. When she calls, she is purposely calling for my friend not her grand daughter.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 35
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    hugsie wrote: »
    Has she tried speaking to the ex mil?
    Telling her that, while she cares for her and appreciates her staying in touch, she really cannot see her every day.

    What is the worst that can happen?

    Good idea although I think my friend may worry it would lead to confrontation which she would not want.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,486
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    hugsie wrote: »
    Has she tried speaking to the ex mil?
    Telling her that, while she cares for her and appreciates her staying in touch, she really cannot see her every day.

    What is the worst that can happen?

    She could move in :D
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    hugsiehugsie Posts: 17,497
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    She could move in :D

    Well it seems the response from the OP's friend would be to go along with it and then complain!
    I have never understood how people are forced to accept unwanted visitors.

    I mean every now and then sure, but your home is sanctuary, you let those you want to see in!
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    1fab1fab Posts: 20,052
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    I think it's nice that the m-i-l wants to stay in touch, but every day is excessive. Why not say something like "I'm going to be busy for a few days. I don't want you to have a wasted journey, so perhaps it would be a good idea to give me a ring before coming over." Gradually be "busy" more often. I would advise against hurting the woman's feelings, as ma-in-laws can turn funny.;)
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    benjaminibenjamini Posts: 32,066
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    Raligt wrote: »
    I am writing this on behalf of a friend.

    Her ex mother in law visits her every day. Even when she has been told that my friend is busy on numerous occasions she still visits. It has reached a point where my friend continues to carry out her chores even when the ex mother in law is visiting. She phones constantly. My friend has now stopped answering her phonecalls incase it is the ex mother in law on the other end of the phone.

    My poor friend is very very frustrated and angry however she does not want to insult her ex mother in law but can't seem to find a way of letting her know gently (my friend has on occasion failed to answer the door knowing it is her at the door).

    Her ex mother in law has been good to her in the past but she has been divorced from her son for a number of years now (nearly 10) and does not want any dealings with him what so ever. The only connection now is through her daughter who is now 21 years old (only child).

    I was hoping you fellow DS members could help with a solution.

    Thanks for reading :)

    I suggest friend grows a backbone and deals with this herself. Who knows, it might be an interesting learning curve. She will learn nothing however if you keep fighting her battles for her.
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    Dr. LinusDr. Linus Posts: 6,445
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    If her granddaughter is 21, then the girl is easily old enough to decide for herself whether she wants to see her grandmother and has her own life... her parents, especially the one on the other side of the family, have nothing to do with it once you're an adult.

    I'm the same age and the notion that my grandparents would have to go through my parents to see me is farcical to me. But maybe the set-up is different in the OP's life.

    But yeah, I would discount that as a possible reason for the grandmother's clinginess. It's probably just a genuine friendship on her part - OP, I think your friend would be best just being honest about her problems with the friendship. It's very understandable that she would feel that way.
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    varialectiovarialectio Posts: 2,377
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    She has to take control of when the MIL visits, not the other way round. Simply not answering the door is not enough as that might just be because she has gone out.

    Next time she calls round, don't let her in but say "I'm a bit busy now, come round on (pick a day two or three days ahead)". Then set a time for the next visit before she leaves and work the intervals a bit longer each time until its a regular weekly day, or less as she wants. That way the MIL will soon get the idea that it's your friend who sets the times of the visits, not her.
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    #grotbags##grotbags# Posts: 1,447
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    I take it your friend hasn't had a new partner since divorcing? That will be awkward, surely.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,660
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    Why not simply say "Stop coming round everyday, you might not have things to do but I do and I don't have time to do this anymore with you?"

    She has no reason to be polite if it's an ex mother in law, divorcing her child should have been a clear enough indication she sought an end to that part of her life unless the mother in law is incredibly stupid. If she's still coming around to socialise a decade later she either has nobody else to spend time with or she's just kind of dumb.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 422
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    From reading the original post it doesn't sound as though the friend works. Could that be the solution? Either a part time job or any sort of commitment that would involve her being unavailable on certain days might help, then she could issue an invitation for a specific day and time.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,363
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    There is a neighbour of mine who does that. She misses her son's ex wife's company and children.
    She constantly buys things for them to have an excuse to visit. The children, both boys, are aged twelve and fourteen and were her son's step children.
    The son and daughter-in-law were briefly married and split up about six years ago. Her son is not particularly nice to her and not very communicative.
    Before reading the OP's post I never imagined that possibly the ex daughter-in-law may be fed up with ex mother-in-law's visits.
    It's all quite sad.
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    spotyspoty Posts: 11,195
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    Perhaps she could suggest her mil finds some kind of hobby that might help her find some more friends, or just give her something else to do?
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    Judge MentalJudge Mental Posts: 18,593
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    It sounds to me as though the ex mother in law thinks that the relationship has moved on from ex MIL to 'friend'. So the advice is really what you'd do with any friend that was monopolising your time (assuming you valued the friendship and wanted it continue). And that would be to put some boundaries around it.

    The next time the MIL calls round unannounced she should say that she is really sorry but she's on her way out so can't invite her in. But if she wants to pop round next Thursday at 7pm she'll have time for a proper natter. Or text me next week and we'll arrange to go meet up for a coffee.

    And then repeat that story every time she turns up without checking first. After the first couple of times she should start to get the message that your friend is busy with her own life and she needs to make proper arrangements to see her.
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    SealegSealeg Posts: 449
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    Maybe she's lonely and thinks the ex daughter in law enjoys her company and is her friend:(


    Is she elderly?
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    burbsburbs Posts: 1,029
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    I would say that instead of your friend whining to you about the issue perhaps her time would be better spent speaking to the ex mother in law and sorting it out. I find it nice that you wish to visit me everyday but it is neither convenient or sensible that my ex husbands mother visits my home everyday.
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    grumpyscotgrumpyscot Posts: 11,354
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    What a shame to reject her. Just because you divorced your ex doesn't mean you divorced her. I would be only too grateful if the parent of an ex continued to be involved in the family.

    Though you could ask her to give you a little more space - but don't shut her out completely.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,881
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    It sounds to me as though the ex mother in law thinks that the relationship has moved on from ex MIL to 'friend'. So the advice is really what you'd do with any friend that was monopolising your time (assuming you valued the friendship and wanted it continue). And that would be to put some boundaries around it.

    The next time the MIL calls round unannounced she should say that she is really sorry but she's on her way out so can't invite her in. But if she wants to pop round next Thursday at 7pm she'll have time for a proper natter. Or text me next week and we'll arrange to go meet up for a coffee.

    And then repeat that story every time she turns up without checking first. After the first couple of times she should start to get the message that your friend is busy with her own life and she needs to make proper arrangements to see her.

    Very good advice as always! I agree with this approach completely. The dynamic of the relationship has changed and it is for the OP to set the parameters if she feels uncomfortable with the current situation. Then everyone knows where they stand, hopefully without feeling hurt.
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