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CS Carla Connor: What is so special about her?
notdebbiedingle
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All the hysteria currently surrounding the TEMPORARY exit of Carla from Corrie prompts me to ask the above question! Just why do the men of Weatherfield rush to dump their wives for her & why do women, who she's betrayed terribly still want to be her friend?? In short what is so special about her??
1) Is it her looks?
Could be I guess, if the sullen & pouty look is what floats your boat! It doesn't mine, but then I know we are all different & beauty is in the eye of the beholder!!
2) Is it her sparkling personality & natural bonhomie?
Erm... hardly!! Yes she has a good line in sharp, acerbic wit & she can be capable of acts of real kindness even to people she doesn't like much, but above all she is selfish!! You know that, even as Carla's best mate, if you have something she wants, particularly if it's your husband, then she'll resort to every dirty trick in the book to take it/him from you!! In short she cannot be trusted!!
3) Is it because she's a 'strong, steely woman'?
Erm... no again really, most of the time she's a complete wreck, relying on whoever happens to be her best mate at the time, be it Leanne, Peter, Maria, Hayley or more recently Michelle, to help carry her through her latest self inflicted crisis, before turning to the bottle , immersing herself in work & careering towards the next one!!
4) Is it her money/ power/ business acumen?
!!! Hardly... she barely keps afloat a two bob backstreet knicker factory, all the shares of which she inherited from two dead husbands & a dead fiance, none of whom she cared a toss for!!
5) Is it because Alison King is a brilliant actress?
She's a good actress without a doubt, but despite what many on here would have you believe there are many other good actresses on the show who, given the wealth of brilliant stuff Alison's been given would look an awful lot better to forum members than they do currently, particularly Jane Danson who I would rate more highly than Alison, personally, but others as well, Helen Worth, Sally Dynevor, Samia Ghadie, Cath Tyldsley, Paula Lane, all capable of being excellent when given something to act, even dare I say it, Kym Marsh can rise to the occasion when she needs to & that's without even beginning to try out the new talent like Tisha Merry, Katy McGlynn, Sair Khan etc with some real meaty storylines!!
To sum up, yes the actress will be missed but the show won't fall apart while she's gone!! As for the character well, these are all just my opinions open to your debate but... judge for yourselves!!
1) Is it her looks?
Could be I guess, if the sullen & pouty look is what floats your boat! It doesn't mine, but then I know we are all different & beauty is in the eye of the beholder!!
2) Is it her sparkling personality & natural bonhomie?
Erm... hardly!! Yes she has a good line in sharp, acerbic wit & she can be capable of acts of real kindness even to people she doesn't like much, but above all she is selfish!! You know that, even as Carla's best mate, if you have something she wants, particularly if it's your husband, then she'll resort to every dirty trick in the book to take it/him from you!! In short she cannot be trusted!!
3) Is it because she's a 'strong, steely woman'?
Erm... no again really, most of the time she's a complete wreck, relying on whoever happens to be her best mate at the time, be it Leanne, Peter, Maria, Hayley or more recently Michelle, to help carry her through her latest self inflicted crisis, before turning to the bottle , immersing herself in work & careering towards the next one!!
4) Is it her money/ power/ business acumen?
!!! Hardly... she barely keps afloat a two bob backstreet knicker factory, all the shares of which she inherited from two dead husbands & a dead fiance, none of whom she cared a toss for!!
5) Is it because Alison King is a brilliant actress?
She's a good actress without a doubt, but despite what many on here would have you believe there are many other good actresses on the show who, given the wealth of brilliant stuff Alison's been given would look an awful lot better to forum members than they do currently, particularly Jane Danson who I would rate more highly than Alison, personally, but others as well, Helen Worth, Sally Dynevor, Samia Ghadie, Cath Tyldsley, Paula Lane, all capable of being excellent when given something to act, even dare I say it, Kym Marsh can rise to the occasion when she needs to & that's without even beginning to try out the new talent like Tisha Merry, Katy McGlynn, Sair Khan etc with some real meaty storylines!!
To sum up, yes the actress will be missed but the show won't fall apart while she's gone!! As for the character well, these are all just my opinions open to your debate but... judge for yourselves!!
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I don't dislike her, but it is amazing how people trust her. How long before Leanne becomes her bezzie mate and all is forgotten? And she is hardly a successful businesswomen either, she relied on Tony and Frank to bail her out (but wasn't truly in love with them), and later left Rob and Michelle (with no experience) to run the factory for her when swanning off to Los Angeles.
As I said in another thread, the show coped just fine when she was absent in 2009 and 2012, I think it will survive without her. And I wish people would read these articles before jumping on the bandwagon acting like she has quit for good and blaming the Corrie team.
@ notdebbiedingle - excellent post, apart from the 'will be missed' bit.
Carla is, hands down, Corrie's best character and whilst I'm sure no character is bigger than the show, it's a major loss; potentially damaging given the show's current state. She feels like THE central character, she has developed to be iconic. The show is always a bit flat when she's not around. Most talented actress in soap - she's the strongest force that would stop me watching. She's almost too good for the show. There's no other character as engaging. Corrie is in for a rough ride and spell without her.
I really do not understand how she is such a 'strong' character when she is reliant on booze and men. Her business has almost gone bust more times than I care to remember, she uses friends for her own selfish reasons. I would hardly call her iconic either, iconic is Deirdre, the Duckies etc.
I can't wait to have other characters and actresses a chance to shine, Carla has been shoe horned into almost every bloody storyline. There are other characters beyond Carla.
Totally agree with everything you have said you have summed up how I feel about Carla. without Carla, I don't think I'll be able to watch as corrie has very few great characters left in the show and there is too much deadwood. I know quite a lot of people who just watch for Carla so the show will suffer I think without her.
I do wonder who will run the factory now. I really don't want her to go. It will be too weird with her not being in the factory, although I can't see me really watching it though once she is gone.
Bring back Danny Baldwin!! I remember his pet names for his factory girls - Lippy, Fuzz, Mincemeat
I don't think the show will fail without her, but I'll personally find it pretty darn crap.
That probably would not be allowed now, not politically correct doncha know!:D
Wish they could bring Danny back, but I think Bradley Walsh has far better things to do than climb aboard the sinking ship that is Corrie sadly.
As for Carla Connor, not bothered if she is there or not I find her a bit meh tbh. She is not a legend, Diedrie was a legend, Sally is a legend and neither of them are/were gobby, drunken man mad old bats. Sorry.
I would have to disagree with you on that one!! Many of the current cast were there pre 06 when Alison King joined, including through what many consider the 'golden age' of 02-05 & were more than capable of carrying big storylines then & would be again given the chance which, under the current regime, they just haven't been given the chance, with all the major stuff going to Carla!!
Thanks for all your feedback so far! As I say it was just my opinion & I'm always happy to see a debate as long as it doesn't get nasty & personal insults start flying around!! ( though even they can be quite Lol sometimes!! )
LOL your probably right, those names were great! Stupid PC society >:( Remembers Legs and Bolshy as well...
Yeah if I was Bradley Walsh I would stay well away.
She is good looking and has a lovely figure yes but nothing else. Why do the women on Corrie think she is some kind of goddess??
If ewe look at her on YouTube, I think ewe will agree.
I guess guys fancy her because she looks naughty, and probably is naughty between the sheets. She's what's called a milf.
Other than that, she's nothing special.
yea, i can relate to that on me
I don't see why flaws would lessen the strength of a character In soaps and dramas flaws give characters strength I'd say. Carla is a stand out character who is feisty and an independent business woman. She has perhaps used alcohol to self medicate and she's had trauma aplenty to self medicate from. She has also had multiple partners like all soap characters but she has also left partners when it was the right thing to do and been on her own for periods of time.
Iconic must be subjective as she certainly is from my point of view. I think some just see iconic as long serving which shouldn't really be the case.
Says it all about CS these days
I knew you had good taste!