Time to start punishing Blackpool

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So Blackpool face yet another inspection on their pitch on Boxing Day and the prospect of a 3rd postponment this season purely due to a frozen pitch

Their lack of undersoil heating is a joke and embarasses the Premier League.

It should be a requirement to enter the league that you have it

The way things are going if this weather holds Blackpool could end up going through winter without playing a game. It's laughable

If they can't sort it, force them to find another venue or start taking points off
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  • CarlosVelaCarlosVela Posts: 3,383
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    But it's not a requirement, so they can't punish them.

    Games can be rescheduled, it's really not a big deal.
  • CarlosVelaCarlosVela Posts: 3,383
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    Also, under soil heating doesn't guarantee that a game will go ahead

    Arsenal have one of the most advanced systems in the world for the pitch but we've had at least 2 games called off in 2010
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,575
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    CarlosVela wrote: »
    But it's not a requirement, so they can't punish them.

    Games can be rescheduled, it's really not a big deal.

    This.

    There's a strong arguement that it should be a requirement to enter the Premier League to have undersoil heating in place or at least say by the November following entry.

    But it isn't ! And the OP's arguement shoiuld be more with the Premier league than Blackpool

    Given the severity of the weather, no requirement from the Premier league for them to have undersoil heating in place, and they have tried their best otherwise, then there is no basis for punishment.
  • Skyclaw726Skyclaw726 Posts: 2,931
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    OP wouldn't say that to Man U or Chelsea if they didn't have Undersoil heating...
  • CarlosVelaCarlosVela Posts: 3,383
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    You have to question the sense in scheduling 3 home games so close together too at a stadium that would be a risk during the cold weather
  • Cantona07Cantona07 Posts: 56,910
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    Blackpool will effectively be punished by having such a backlog of games, with such a small squad it could come close to costing them their PL status if they hit a losing run.
  • Skyclaw726Skyclaw726 Posts: 2,931
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    I hope what cantona says will be true that Blackpool will have to play so many games in a short amount of time but if they somehow win them all give them a freakin medal or something
  • Cantona07Cantona07 Posts: 56,910
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    CarlosVela wrote: »
    You have to question the sense in scheduling 3 home games so close together too at a stadium that would be a risk during the cold weather

    Yeah but they had home games in hand due to playing their first few games away from home while the stadium was being worked on.
  • celesticelesti Posts: 25,970
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    Yes, we should punish sides who overachieve because of the weather. We certainly don't want that kind of story in the Premier League.

    We should really just get 20 teams to submit proposals to be Premier League clubs based on facilities and money, close off relegation/promotion entirely, and include Qatar.
  • CarlosVelaCarlosVela Posts: 3,383
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    Cantona07 wrote: »
    Yeah but they had home games in hand due to playing their first few games away from home while the stadium was being worked on.

    But when they reschedule things and generally do the fixtures they're meant to take into account the history the effects that weather has had on games.

    And whilst the weather is unpredictable and such, the Premier League could have avoided this by not having 3 games in a row played at Blackpool.
  • mike65mike65 Posts: 11,386
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    I agree, Liverpool should get a 3-0 win by default and the points which we desperately need :D
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14,920
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    hasn't a lot more snow been forecast overnight on xmas night / boxing day?

    It seems quite likely that this game will be off. Along with most others.

    The Pools Panel decision should be interesting. :D
  • AmbassadorAmbassador Posts: 22,332
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    Skyclaw726 wrote: »
    OP wouldn't say that to Man U or Chelsea if they didn't have Undersoil heating...

    I've already criticised Chelsea for their awful decision (or should I say, the Match Commanders' decision to calll off a game)

    We've had games going ahead in much worse conditions than what occurs at Blackpool and down South in the past month or so

    Why should other teams suffer a fixture pile up because Blackpool are inept
  • ZicoZZicoZ Posts: 7,642
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    At least Blackpool try and play decent football maybe they should punish the teams that play anti-football .
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16
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    Ambassador wrote: »
    So Blackpool face yet another inspection on their pitch on Boxing Day and the prospect of a 3rd postponment this season purely due to a frozen pitch

    Their lack of undersoil heating is a joke and embarasses the Premier League.

    It should be a requirement to enter the league that you have it

    The way things are going if this weather holds Blackpool could end up going through winter without playing a game. It's laughable

    If they can't sort it, force them to find another venue or start taking points off

    Oh Grow Up! The timescale between winning the playoffs and the first premier league game was so short, the club just managed to get a new stand built in time. There was no way to get undersoil heating put in in time, and the club have already said that it will be installed this summer if the club are still in the Premier League.
    PL requirements were that undersoil hearting was only a requirement in the second season, so the club have broken no regulations.

    Besides which, if you'd checked properly, you would have found that in both cases this season, the pitch has been perfectly playable when the match was due to be played. The first was postponed due to an over-cautious referee not reading the weather forecast, and the second was on safety grounds like most other postponed games last weekend. The club has frost protection cover good to -8c. Below that, undersoil heating is inneffective anyway.

    Never mind. You carry on having a pop at anything you can to do with Blackpool FC. We'll just keep on enjoying ourselves and having a good laugh at every jumped up official, manager, player, fan, reporter and blogger who try to put us down. Best trip we've ever been on! :p

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVGNPZSecqI
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,178
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    A Downfall meme? Ground breaking stuff.
  • DDRickyDDDDRickyDD Posts: 5,247
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    They should be forced to play at Deepdale. What an embarrassment for Blackpool.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,575
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    Oh Grow Up! The timescale between winning the playoffs and the first premier league game was so short, the club just managed to get a new stand built in time. There was no way to get undersoil heating put in in time, and the club have already said that it will be installed this summer if the club are still in the Premier League.
    PL requirements were that undersoil hearting was only a requirement in the second season, so the club have broken no regulations.

    Besides which, if you'd checked properly, you would have found that in both cases this season, the pitch has been perfectly playable when the match was due to be played. The first was postponed due to an over-cautious referee not reading the weather forecast, and the second was on safety grounds like most other postponed games last weekend. The club has frost protection cover good to -8c. Below that, undersoil heating is inneffective anyway.

    Never mind. You carry on having a pop at anything you can to do with Blackpool FC. We'll just keep on enjoying ourselves and having a good laugh at every jumped up official, manager, player, fan, reporter and blogger who try to put us down. Best trip we've ever been on! :p

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVGNPZSecqI

    Good luck to you, and does seem the OP isn't too bothered about establishing the full facts before going on a rant.

    As has been repeatedly said anyway ( and not acknowledged ), even it was more relevant, there was no requirement for undersoil heating in Blackpool's first season up. It looks as if they have otherwise taken great steps to try and get matches played under extremely taxing circumstances.

    How dare a club like yourselves provide a good news story ! How dare you exceed expectations ! :rolleyes:

    Love the video :)
  • Pink_PounderPink_Pounder Posts: 13,168
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    The game vs Manchester United was postponed because of a frozen pitch. Subsequent games may have been postponed as a result of the weather conditions but even if those conditions were not enough to stop the game itself, Blackpool's pitch is still frozen.

    I doubt the pitch would have been playable in time for the game yet suddenly freeze up again the day after.

    It's a serious point. If a club cannot fulfill it's obligations to the Premier League and host games when required then serious questions should be asked as to why.

    It's all very well this 'don't pick on the little guy' but when it is inadequate facilities in the stadium that is preventing the game from going ahead, questions should be asked.

    Fulham, as I understand it, also do not have undersoil heating and if a game at their ground was ever postponed as a result of a frozen pitch, I'd expect most to have the same opinion.

    It just seems daft that many PL teams have undersoil heating in their training ground yet some clubs are too tight to install it in their stadium.

    As for the argument that there isn't much time between the end off the playoffs and the Premier league starting - do they not have poor weather in the Championship then?
  • AmbassadorAmbassador Posts: 22,332
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    The game vs Manchester United was postponed because of a frozen pitch. Subsequent games may have been postponed as a result of the weather conditions but even if those conditions were not enough to stop the game itself, Blackpool's pitch is still frozen.

    I doubt the pitch would have been playable in time for the game yet suddenly freeze up again the day after.

    It's a serious point. If a club cannot fulfill it's obligations to the Premier League and host games when required then serious questions should be asked as to why.

    It's all very well this 'don't pick on the little guy' but when it is inadequate facilities in the stadium that is preventing the game from going ahead, questions should be asked.

    Fulham, as I understand it, also do not have undersoil heating and if a game at their ground was ever postponed as a result of a frozen pitch, I'd expect most to have the same opinion.

    It just seems daft that many PL teams have undersoil heating in their training ground yet some clubs are too tight to install it in their stadium.

    As for the argument that there isn't much time between the end off the playoffs and the Premier league starting - do they not have poor weather in the Championship then?

    Beautifully put...

    Let's not pick on Blackpool, they're small and their manager makes us laugh...bollocks
  • Cantona07Cantona07 Posts: 56,910
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    Ambassador wrote: »
    Beautifully put...

    Let's not pick on Blackpool, they're small and their manager makes us laugh...bollocks

    Never the less they worked to put in place the things that were required of a PL club. Undersoil heating was not a requirement so they can't be punished for not having something they don't need to have.

    Undersoil heating is only effective within a certain temp range anyway so while it SHOULD be a PL requirement in future it doesn't actually ensure a playable pitch.
  • AmbassadorAmbassador Posts: 22,332
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    Cantona07 wrote: »
    Never the less they worked to put in place the things that were required of a PL club. Undersoil heating was not a requirement so they can't be punished for not having something they don't need to have.

    Undersoil heating is only effective within a certain temp range anyway so while it SHOULD be a PL requirement in future it doesn't actually ensure a playable pitch.

    Agreed to concede on that point and it's damning of the PL on that one.

    If the poor weather continues and it becomes obvious Blackpool are going to have to reschedule more games because of the pitch then we need to look at alternative venues because that situation couldn't go on
  • Cantona07Cantona07 Posts: 56,910
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    Ambassador wrote: »
    Agreed to concede on that point and it's damning of the PL on that one.

    If the poor weather continues and it becomes obvious Blackpool are going to have to reschedule more games because of the pitch then we need to look at alternative venues because that situation couldn't go on

    I agree with that and I also think football as a whole needs to look at exactly why games are called off.

    I watched Leicester v ipswich on tv last week and it was very entertaining, the game was completed and as far as I know no one died. More games should follow this example.
  • misawa97misawa97 Posts: 11,579
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    I do think any side playing in the premierleague should have undersoil heating. It cant guarantee matches go ahead but for me its a basic requirement.
  • AmbassadorAmbassador Posts: 22,332
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    Blackpool's pitch falls again.
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