I just notice that the attitudes and way it's done to those not on the left to be very hostile and the merest hint of say a perceived old fashioned view is really challenged or leapt on whereas an Owen Jones or Labour spokesman doesn't get as much of a hard time....
Not that Labour are on the left really they are mostly professional lefties anyway..
I worked (in a previous life) at piers Morgan's old school so I know where he has come from & was not from a socialist background at all....
They have had their own shows as well on lbc the godawful medhi hassan plus the Ken and Dave show gives different views.....McGuire is just a tool and annoying....
Hey ho...
I take it you've read the constant critiques of James O'Brien on this forum?
Is it safe to return to LBC listening?...So awful.
yeah, Steve Allen was back to saying he wasnt lonely because he had the hairdresser to talk to (to talk about how he gets all his medicines for free to).... where is the off switch... click...
(although he is right about living alone does not mean you are lonely)
I just notice that the attitudes and way it's done to those not on the left to be very hostile and the merest hint of say a perceived old fashioned view is really challenged or leapt on whereas an Owen Jones or Labour spokesman doesn't get as much of a hard time....
Not that Labour are on the left really they are mostly professional lefties anyway..
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They have had their own shows as well on lbc the godawful medhi hassan plus the Ken and Dave show gives different views.....McGuire is just a tool and annoying....
Hey ho...
I never liked Kevin McG when he was on LBC, either. And I don't find Owen Jones an easy listen, but that's mainly because he's so rarely allowed the proper time or respect to make his points, that I feel he ends up rushing things and sounding a bit whiny. To make a bit of a generalisation. I think that a lot of the perceived right-wing presenters take a headline and never look beyond it. They therefore end up making over-simplistic, sometimes therefore prejudiced, assertions. When someone like OJ comes on, he tries to flesh out the facts, figures and nuances to look beyond the headlines... and he's not allowed to. You only need to look at the way David Mellor treats Ken L to see another example. Whenever Ken scores a point, DM will immediately try to infantilise, in a patronising way he dresses up as 'humour', but it's used to put Ken down.
It's terribly over-simplistic, but the end result is perhaps the kind of person who thinks all refugees are sponging scum, except the two they actually know, coz they're alright and have awful stories of torture, etc. In my own line of work, I see that kind of thing all the time - someone who makes sweeping statements about people they don't know, but sympathises with those they do in the same situation. Such people don't seem to be able to join the dots!
I agree with you about the non-left Labourites, though.
yeah, Steve Allen was back to saying he wasnt lonely because he had the hairdresser to talk to (to talk about how he gets all his medicines for free to).... where is the off switch... click...
(although he is right about living alone does not mean you are lonely)
Why should we pay for his medicines whilst he doesn't look after his health? Remember this every time he criticises some poor bugger who is living on £71 and has lost everything.
I take it you've read the constant critiques of James O'Brien on this forum?
Excellent point, plus a couple of posters here who also bang on about 'lefties', whilst never answering a reply or backing up their assertions. Just name-calling.
As B-Dizzle said, they must lack a lot of confidence as they seem to want to be the only, very loud, voice in the room...
The point that everyone misses is that Global are a business that is there to make a profit. There isn't, and nor should there be, any obligation to employ a balance of left and right wing presenters. If they thought that employing lefties would increase listener numbers they'd be on for 24 hours a day. They won't though because the great british have no appetite for commercial left wing output, the licence tax funded statist BBC filling that void amply.
Erm... I think you'll find HappyTree made just that point recently and elicited an Iain Dale intervention. And I know I and others have said it before, too.
I see you're still peddling the nonsense about the statist left wing media, another point you never answered on the politics thread.
Making things up may suit you, but it doesn't make them true! ;-)
Excellent point, plus a couple of posters here who also bang on about 'lefties', whilst never answering a reply or backing up their assertions. Just name-calling.
As B-Dizzle said, they must lack a lot of confidence as they seem to want to be the only, very loud, voice in the room...
There's even a campaign on here to get James removed from LBC.
Now if that's not 'criticism' then I don't know what it is.
The anti Ukip polemicist O'Brien spent yet another two hours yesterday attacking them when supposedly discussing the big debate with Clegg - yet O'Brien couldn't even be bothered listening to the debate which took only one hour - half the time he spent.
Excellent point, plus a couple of posters here who also bang on about 'lefties', whilst never answering a reply or backing up their assertions. Just name-calling.
As B-Dizzle said, they must lack a lot of confidence as they seem to want to be the only, very loud, voice in the room...
Like calling someone's comments racist because their parents were dismayed at there being no-one left in their street who spoke English?
Plenty of loud voices from all quarters here I think.
Who is this Johnnie bloke on NF? Trying to be funny....
Feel for his situation....but,
Not your show mate...get off.
He was a regular here until a few months ago. He flounced off in a huff - I can't remember why - and is now spouting the same old same old on the LBC FB page. Fortunately for him they have a more relaxed attitude to bad language.
TBF that was suggested by a poster who has an unhealthy obsession with J O'B and garnered, I think, one subscriber. I'd hardly call it a campaign.
It's a campaign I'd say, a vocation even. I expect him to pop up and give me an update today, as I requested in an earlier thread. There'll be prizes for us of the following words "champagne", "painful", "liberal" and "elite". Bonus marks will be awarded for georgraphical representation.
There are at least two people who seem to take an unhealthy interest in James' daily thoughs, getting very angered by them, yet strangely not using the 'off' button.
I found the 'off' button some years ago for Steve Allen when I realised what a steaming pile of doggie do his show was.
It's a campaign I'd say, a vocation even. I expect him to pop up and give me an update today, as I requested in an earlier thread. There'll be prizes for us of the following words "champagne", "painful", "liberal" and "elite". Bonus marks will be awarded for georgraphical representation.
There are at least two people who seem to take an unhealthy interest in James' daily thoughs, getting very angered by them, yet strangely not using the 'off' button.
I found the 'off' button some years ago for Steve Allen when I realised what a steaming pile of doggie do his show was.
The trouble with James is that when he's good, he's very, very good and when he's bad, he's horrid, but you have to listen to find out which it is!
Why should we pay for his medicines whilst he doesn't look after his health? Remember this every time he criticises some poor bugger who is living on £71 and has lost everything.
Mind you he has had a good innings at 83 I guess.
Good point, chin.
He's the type who would say that if you drink, smoke, overeat etc, you shouldn't get free treatment for related illnesses.
But he doesn't follow his own 'don't eat fatty food' idea, this morning he was talking about how he bought a pack of ten different cheeses! And he thinks a chicken sandwich with mayo is healthy, because it had tomato in it.
Again today, I turned him off after a few minutes.
I just notice that the attitudes and way it's done to those not on the left to be very hostile and the merest hint of say a perceived old fashioned view is really challenged or leapt on whereas an Owen Jones or Labour spokesman doesn't get as much of a hard time....
You're joking, aren't you? All Owen Jones seems to get is criticism; the right don't like him because he's young and unapologetically socialist; the left just see him as a bit of a chancer. He's pretty high profile, but he's hardly immune to cricitism.
If you are not stressed out already listening to J O'Brien will certainly put you on the road to it. He seems to enjoy arguing in a loud voice with whoever calls in and talking over them at the same time.:(
He was a regular here until a few months ago. He flounced off in a huff - I can't remember why - and is now spouting the same old same old on the LBC FB page. Fortunately for him they have a more relaxed attitude to bad language.
Morning all.
Nick F wouldn't take his calls or didn't agree with said poster, I can't remember exactly the reason. He is a massive attention-seeker though like some on here. For the life of me, I can't see why there's so much emphasis placed on a presenter's political stance. The counter-argument is always something along the lines of "needing balanced viewpoints". I don't know why some folk need a presenter as a platform for them as though they are unable to be heard in any other way?
Luckily I don't subscribe to politics/politicians as a means to an end. And I don't trust any of party leaders at the present time anyway!
If you are not stressed out already listening to J O'Brien will certainly put you on the road to it. He seems to enjoy arguing in a loud voice with whoever calls in and talking over them at the same time.:(
A bit like Nick Ferrari and his 'whispering' over people?
Nick F wouldn't take his calls or didn't agree with said poster, I can't remember exactly the reason. He is a massive attention-seeker though like some on here. For the life of me, I can't see why there's so much emphasis placed on a presenter's political stance. The counter-argument is always something along the lines of "needing balanced viewpoints". I don't know why some folk need a presenter as a platform for them as though they are unable to be heard in any other way?
Luckily I don't subscribe to politics/politicians as a means to an end. And I don't trust any of party leaders at the present time anyway!
It makes for a more informative and interesting discussion when you hear both sides to a news story.
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I take it you've read the constant critiques of James O'Brien on this forum?
yeah, Steve Allen was back to saying he wasnt lonely because he had the hairdresser to talk to (to talk about how he gets all his medicines for free to).... where is the off switch... click...
(although he is right about living alone does not mean you are lonely)
I never liked Kevin McG when he was on LBC, either. And I don't find Owen Jones an easy listen, but that's mainly because he's so rarely allowed the proper time or respect to make his points, that I feel he ends up rushing things and sounding a bit whiny. To make a bit of a generalisation. I think that a lot of the perceived right-wing presenters take a headline and never look beyond it. They therefore end up making over-simplistic, sometimes therefore prejudiced, assertions. When someone like OJ comes on, he tries to flesh out the facts, figures and nuances to look beyond the headlines... and he's not allowed to. You only need to look at the way David Mellor treats Ken L to see another example. Whenever Ken scores a point, DM will immediately try to infantilise, in a patronising way he dresses up as 'humour', but it's used to put Ken down.
It's terribly over-simplistic, but the end result is perhaps the kind of person who thinks all refugees are sponging scum, except the two they actually know, coz they're alright and have awful stories of torture, etc. In my own line of work, I see that kind of thing all the time - someone who makes sweeping statements about people they don't know, but sympathises with those they do in the same situation. Such people don't seem to be able to join the dots!
I agree with you about the non-left Labourites, though.
Why should we pay for his medicines whilst he doesn't look after his health? Remember this every time he criticises some poor bugger who is living on £71 and has lost everything.
Mind you he has had a good innings at 83 I guess.
Excellent point, plus a couple of posters here who also bang on about 'lefties', whilst never answering a reply or backing up their assertions. Just name-calling.
As B-Dizzle said, they must lack a lot of confidence as they seem to want to be the only, very loud, voice in the room...
Erm... I think you'll find HappyTree made just that point recently and elicited an Iain Dale intervention. And I know I and others have said it before, too.
I see you're still peddling the nonsense about the statist left wing media, another point you never answered on the politics thread.
Making things up may suit you, but it doesn't make them true! ;-)
Feel for his situation....but,
Not your show mate...get off.
There's even a campaign on here to get James removed from LBC.
Now if that's not 'criticism' then I don't know what it is.
Like calling someone's comments racist because their parents were dismayed at there being no-one left in their street who spoke English?
Plenty of loud voices from all quarters here I think.
One of our ex-posters here.
He's moved to Facebook.
What on earth are you on about?
He was a regular here until a few months ago. He flounced off in a huff - I can't remember why - and is now spouting the same old same old on the LBC FB page. Fortunately for him they have a more relaxed attitude to bad language.
Morning all.
TBF that was suggested by a poster who has an unhealthy obsession with J O'B and garnered, I think, one subscriber. I'd hardly call it a campaign.
It's a campaign I'd say, a vocation even. I expect him to pop up and give me an update today, as I requested in an earlier thread. There'll be prizes for us of the following words "champagne", "painful", "liberal" and "elite". Bonus marks will be awarded for georgraphical representation.
There are at least two people who seem to take an unhealthy interest in James' daily thoughs, getting very angered by them, yet strangely not using the 'off' button.
I found the 'off' button some years ago for Steve Allen when I realised what a steaming pile of doggie do his show was.
The trouble with James is that when he's good, he's very, very good and when he's bad, he's horrid, but you have to listen to find out which it is!
Good point, chin.
He's the type who would say that if you drink, smoke, overeat etc, you shouldn't get free treatment for related illnesses.
But he doesn't follow his own 'don't eat fatty food' idea, this morning he was talking about how he bought a pack of ten different cheeses! And he thinks a chicken sandwich with mayo is healthy, because it had tomato in it.
Again today, I turned him off after a few minutes.
You're joking, aren't you? All Owen Jones seems to get is criticism; the right don't like him because he's young and unapologetically socialist; the left just see him as a bit of a chancer. He's pretty high profile, but he's hardly immune to cricitism.
Nick F wouldn't take his calls or didn't agree with said poster, I can't remember exactly the reason. He is a massive attention-seeker though like some on here. For the life of me, I can't see why there's so much emphasis placed on a presenter's political stance. The counter-argument is always something along the lines of "needing balanced viewpoints". I don't know why some folk need a presenter as a platform for them as though they are unable to be heard in any other way?
Luckily I don't subscribe to politics/politicians as a means to an end. And I don't trust any of party leaders at the present time anyway!
A bit like Nick Ferrari and his 'whispering' over people?
It makes for a more informative and interesting discussion when you hear both sides to a news story.