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is working modern day slavery?

OnexOneOnexOne Posts: 3,816
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this question goes out to all, everyone in work that either hate their work or love it! is work modern day slavery? lets face it many many years ago, did man have to work for a living? prior to money?
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    MAWMAW Posts: 38,777
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    OnexOne wrote: »
    this question goes out to all, everyone in work that either hate their work or love it! is work modern day slavery? lets face it many many years ago, did man have to work for a living? prior to money?

    Before money there would still have been slavery, and yes, those that didn't have slaves to do it for them would have had to work for a living. Usually hunting, gathering or farming. It was hard, and few lived beyond 40 years, much like the 3rd world today.
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    Constant PMTConstant PMT Posts: 3,458
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    Unfortunately if we didn't work, the world would ground to a halt? Obviously. So I dont think it's a modern day slavery at all. It's been happening since the word dot..
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    koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    OnexOne wrote: »
    this question goes out to all, everyone in work that either hate their work or love it! is work modern day slavery? lets face it many many years ago, did man have to work for a living? prior to money?

    Yes it is.
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    John146John146 Posts: 12,926
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    OnexOne wrote: »
    this question goes out to all, everyone in work that either hate their work or love it! is work modern day slavery? lets face it many many years ago, did man have to work for a living? prior to money?

    I suppose in the true sense of the word slaves were given tasks that could/would ultimately kill them, or at worst disable them at quite a young age, but, having said that in the coal mines before nationalisation miners were treated no better, I would suggest that if you like the job you have then it is not slavery, some days your job may seem most disagreeable (I worked outside, and in the present weather hated it), but on hot summer days?? eh!!, it was a great job, depends on your outlook to work, do you work to live, or live to work?
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    OnexOneOnexOne Posts: 3,816
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    so prior to money, how did the world not ground to a halt back then?
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    To the question......:rolleyes:


    OnexOne wrote: »
    this question goes out to all, everyone in work that either hate their work or love it! is work modern day slavery?
    No, and it's an insult to all those who have been slaves
    lets face it many many years ago, did man have to work for a living? prior to money?
    Yes they did and unlike today, there was no over generous benefits system.

    How can it be slavery when these days, you can choose not to work and be no worse off.:rolleyes:
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    camercamer Posts: 5,237
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    OnexOne wrote: »
    so prior to money, how did the world not ground to a halt back then?
    There was always money or riches of some kind but it belonged to a tiny part of the worlds population who owned all the land so people had to work for them for nothing other than a tiny amount of food(slavery). Today people work to earn money which is not slavery though we are still heavily taxed by the rich which I suppose is a form of slavery in itself.
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    Constant PMTConstant PMT Posts: 3,458
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    OnexOne wrote: »
    so prior to money, how did the world not ground to a halt back then?

    Because they ate dirt & didn't have Corrie on the box :D
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    danletodanleto Posts: 2,777
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    Slavery is working for nothing. Slaves aren't paid, they don't own a house or get to go out of a weekend to get rat arsed and have fun... maybe if people have a job they enjoy it would be more of a hobby they are paid to do instead of working for the hell of it.
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    John146John146 Posts: 12,926
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    OnexOne wrote: »
    so prior to money, how did the world not ground to a halt back then?

    Well obviously it didn't, but things moved at a much slower pace, people who worked tended not to live to a ripe old age, or had jobs that caused them to become poorly when still quite young, some of that I suppose down to ignorance in he workplace, safety issues etc, we have moved on tremendously in working conditions, we don't employ very young people to do manual labour/work in the mills (if we had any), whilst I think there may still be room for improvement in some working conditions, I don't think on the whole there is any comparison to make between now and the 'olden days'
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,242
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    Mankind has always had to "work" for a living.

    This used to mean going out hunting, rooting about for roots leaves an berries, finding water, making skins into clothing, looking after offspring, finding heat and shelter etc etc etc.

    Later on it involved farming, bartering, fighting off marauders.

    The advent of money just made barteriing/working more flexible.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 36,630
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    SULLA wrote: »
    To the question......:rolleyes:



    No, and it's an insult to all those who have been slaves
    Yes they did and unlike today, there was no over generous benefits system.

    How can it be slavery when these days, you can choose not to work and be no worse off.:rolleyes:

    No worse off?. I'm a hell of a lot worse off since I lost my job.

    To the OP, you get paid for working, you are free to get another job (subject to availability and skill set of course), you are free to take holidays etc. So no, not akin to slavery in any way shape or form.
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    Turnbull2000Turnbull2000 Posts: 7,588
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    Unless you have enough capital or assets to never work again in your lifetime, you're a slave.
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    tghe-retfordtghe-retford Posts: 26,449
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    Almost all of us are slaves, unless you are a banker or the owner of a big business - they're the people who are truly running the country.
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    koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    If we were all given a fair share of the earth's resources we wouldn't have to work half as much as we do now.
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    ĐironaĐirona Posts: 15,881
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    it's only the pampered people of the west who have absolutely no ****in idea of what slavery is yet whine about being slaves
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    tghe-retfordtghe-retford Posts: 26,449
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    Đirona wrote: »
    it's only the pampered people of the west who have absolutely no ****in idea of what slavery is yet whine about being slaves
    What would you suggest the west should do to address this in-balance?
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    ĐironaĐirona Posts: 15,881
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    What would you suggest the west should do to address this in-balance?

    stop comparing their wrapped up in cotton wool lives to those who really have to work for a life
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    JustmadeitJustmadeit Posts: 7,512
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    i think by now with the technology available and if money was distributed globally and fairly then none of us should have to do more than a 6 hour day, say 10 till 4

    in the past they predicted wed work shorter weeks etc, it never happened

    if we just slowed down as a world,shorter working weeks would be possible. unfortunatly an arms economy and a world trying to please shareholders ruins everything

    the world could be so much better but the love of money ruins it all

    we are incredibly lucky in this country compared to many thats for sure though
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    koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    Đirona wrote: »
    it's only the pampered people of the west who have absolutely no ****in idea of what slavery is yet whine about being slaves

    They know what slavery is.

    Just because someone isn't shackled in chains or being whipped doesn't mean they are still not slaves.
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    dip_transferdip_transfer Posts: 2,327
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    No, I don't think it is Slavery,
    I perceive slavery as, being in Bondage against one's will, and owned by a master.

    :)
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    EspressoEspresso Posts: 18,047
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    Slaves were owned by slavemasters. The slave had no say in what they did and got no pay for it. They'd be beaten or raped or killed if the slavemaster felt so inclined and he'd never be brought to account for it.

    Has anyone got an employer who is free to rape, beat and murder them, with no come back?
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    koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    Espresso wrote: »
    Slaves were owned by slavemasters. The slave had no say in what they did and got no pay for it. They'd be beaten or raped or killed if the slavemaster felt so inclined and he'd never be brought to account for it.

    Has anyone got an employer who is free to rape, beat and murder them, with no come back?

    There are degrees of slavery.

    That is one of the worst degrees.

    People in sweat shops are slaves.

    If the unemployed are forced to work for their money then that will certainly be a form of slavery.
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    tingramretrotingramretro Posts: 10,974
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    Yes it is.

    How did I know you'd say that?

    Of course it isn't-it's a bloody silly question, if nobody worked, nothing would ever get done and society would collapse.
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    ĐironaĐirona Posts: 15,881
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    They know what slavery is.

    Just because someone isn't shackled in chains or being whipped doesn't mean they are still not slaves.

    so what is your particular definition of slavery?

    going to work?
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