I would never watch a film like this on ITV as advert breaks and cuts to content, have had the blu ray since day 1.
However the number of people bothered by cuts is so minute it does not register with ITV when millions will happily watch and almost certainly never be wiser that the film has been cut.
In terms of profile a great film for ITV to have and this plus Downton Abbey should give ITV a great boost in the Christmas ratings when normally they are trounced by the BBC.
Well, for completeness, what's M's best line then?
Do we really care? The OP said it was "cut to shreds" so obviously M's line was just a small matter! MAybe it was "Come again Moneypenny." "No, it's toothpaste!":D
If ITV cut the line M uses right at the end, an important part of the film IMO, then im proven right in saying ITV should be banned from ever showing films!
There is NO reason to cut films, non at all and shame on ITV for editing yet another film out of stupidity.
If ITV cut the line M uses right at the end, an important part of the film IMO, then im proven right in saying ITV should be banned from ever showing films!
There is NO reason to cut films, non at all and shame on ITV for editing yet another film out of stupidity.
I remember watching Goldeneye on ITV a few months ago. I saw it on ITV before back in 2005 and I noticed, when I watched it for the second time, that M's line "We hope that you stay Onatopp of things (a pun on Xenia's surname)" had been cut out. I don't see how squeezing in ad breaks would necessitate cutting lines out of the film.
I remember watching Goldeneye on ITV a few months ago. I saw it on ITV before back in 2005 and I noticed, when I watched it for the second time, that M's line "We hope that you stay Onatopp of things (a pun on Xenia's surname)" had been cut out. I don't see how squeezing in ad breaks would necessitate cutting lines out of the film.
Its not predominantly cutting lines and scenes for ad-break time. Its cut because they think Bond films, about an MI6 officer who is basically an assassin and knocks the shit out of bad people is for kids, which is isn't.
Yes, kids like the films, but fact is, the cut ITV broadcast is edited to hell and back of the BBFC-rated version and yet, there is NO reason to cut anything.
The Onatopp line is a big part of the Goldeneye film IMO. Its a quip that is telling Bond to pay attention to the job and also, a little joke about him being a ladies man.
Its not like M is saying "Bang her brains out for Queen and country James, theres a good chap"
The morons at ITV and UKTV must have been cut from the same cloth because both edit teams are idiots!
Its not predominantly cutting lines and scenes for ad-break time. Its cut because they think Bond films, about an MI6 officer who is basically an assassin and knocks the shit out of bad people is for kids, which is isn't.
Yes, kids like the films, but fact is, the cut ITV broadcast is edited to hell and back of the BBFC-rated version and yet, there is NO reason to cut anything.
The Onatopp line is a big part of the Goldeneye film IMO. Its a quip that is telling Bond to pay attention to the job and also, a little joke about him being a ladies man.
Its not like M is saying "Bang her brains out for Queen and country James, theres a good chap"
The morons at ITV and UKTV must have been cut from the same cloth because both edit teams are idiots!
You have to remember that ITV, BBC or whoever are running scared of OFCOM, it only takes one complaint. I remember the debate here at the time when OFCOM forced ITV to cut Death on the Nile which had happily been receiving daytime screenings for years because one woman complained her child had been emotionally scared by the red mark representing blood on the victim's blouse after the shooting. Was all off camera and the red mark signified she had been shot in the chest.
If you want to see films uncut pay for Sky Movies, Netflix or buy the DVD. Don't expect ITV or BBC to broadcast them.
You have to remember that ITV, BBC or whoever are running scared of OFCOM, it only takes one complaint. I remember the debate here at the time when OFCOM forced ITV to cut Death on the Nile which had happily been receiving daytime screenings for years because one woman complained her child had been emotionally scared by the red mark representing blood on the victim's blouse after the shooting. Was all off camera and the red mark signified she had been shot in the chest.
If you want to see films uncut pay for Sky Movies, Netflix or buy the DVD. Don't expect ITV or BBC to broadcast them.
Why don't the studio just make anodine versions of films for ITV... shorter running time, all the action in a central safe zone and excessive product placement. (Shaken not stirted.. on offer at Tesco... Licence to Kill.. get one now from the Post Office ..etc..etc).
OK.. jest and boredom leads to stupidity, but serious point: didn't the studios at one time make TV and airline versions of movies, albeit for US consumption. ITV always cut films, but esentially kept to the UK cinematic release.
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Luckily for men I haven't seen it before, so I wouldn't know any difference. Probably wouldn't notice anyway with a film being 3 hours long.
No it beat the soaps too.
Did it. I never realised they will certainly be patting themselves on the back
Well I'm glad they "bothered" ---- I hadn't seen it so haven't a clue what was cut ...
Regards.
I've got the DVD somewhere, but I was quite happy to watch it again.
I didn't even notice the cuts.
I haven't watched it enough to memorise every scene and line of dialogue, though.
However the number of people bothered by cuts is so minute it does not register with ITV when millions will happily watch and almost certainly never be wiser that the film has been cut.
In terms of profile a great film for ITV to have and this plus Downton Abbey should give ITV a great boost in the Christmas ratings when normally they are trounced by the BBC.
Do we really care? The OP said it was "cut to shreds" so obviously M's line was just a small matter! MAybe it was "Come again Moneypenny." "No, it's toothpaste!":D
Probably when she said she'd "f**ked up"
Same here.
stupid they cut anything really, none of it was really THAT cutable .....
There is NO reason to cut films, non at all and shame on ITV for editing yet another film out of stupidity.
What's left of it you mean.......
I remember watching Goldeneye on ITV a few months ago. I saw it on ITV before back in 2005 and I noticed, when I watched it for the second time, that M's line "We hope that you stay Onatopp of things (a pun on Xenia's surname)" had been cut out. I don't see how squeezing in ad breaks would necessitate cutting lines out of the film.
Its not predominantly cutting lines and scenes for ad-break time. Its cut because they think Bond films, about an MI6 officer who is basically an assassin and knocks the shit out of bad people is for kids, which is isn't.
Yes, kids like the films, but fact is, the cut ITV broadcast is edited to hell and back of the BBFC-rated version and yet, there is NO reason to cut anything.
The Onatopp line is a big part of the Goldeneye film IMO. Its a quip that is telling Bond to pay attention to the job and also, a little joke about him being a ladies man.
Its not like M is saying "Bang her brains out for Queen and country James, theres a good chap"
The morons at ITV and UKTV must have been cut from the same cloth because both edit teams are idiots!
Post of the year. Johnbee swoops in and takes it in the last few days of December. Top notch.
It has madness, cliches, and style. 10/10.
Thanks for the explanation.
If you want to see films uncut pay for Sky Movies, Netflix or buy the DVD. Don't expect ITV or BBC to broadcast them.
Why don't the studio just make anodine versions of films for ITV... shorter running time, all the action in a central safe zone and excessive product placement. (Shaken not stirted.. on offer at Tesco... Licence to Kill.. get one now from the Post Office ..etc..etc).
OK.. jest and boredom leads to stupidity, but serious point: didn't the studios at one time make TV and airline versions of movies, albeit for US consumption. ITV always cut films, but esentially kept to the UK cinematic release.