His odd interchange with the woman who had suffered a fall (red lorry, yellow lorry), where he appeared to not want to be there at all and did not try to hide the fact.
And the awkward "alien master race" and "Batman" comments, broadcast across the hospital... :rolleyes:
That's what we all said, at least the doctor was telling to look away. When I was 11 I was really put off needles as a junior doctor told me I had rubbish veins when he was trying to put a drip in the back of my hand which is the most painful place to stick a needle and he caused me pain. Fair enough I wasn't Alfie's age but having a needle stuck in you is really painful.
Not a fan of Princess Priya (?) or the other posh girl but I do like Lucy. Totally agree about red truck, yellow truck doctor he just seems a tad boring
The problem is he was trying to put a cannula in, like you'd give an injection. I don't know why these doctors, or even nurses come to that, don't have a day with a phlebotomist so they can learn the real technique.
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A day with a phlebotomist would be an excellent idea, I think too they should do a first aid course and spend some time as a health care assistant.
Think Amieth would perhaps be suited to being a rural GP seeing 3 patients an hour and Sameer (aka Batman)....please go into research/surgery!
Typical of many (NOT ALL!) mothers today. The ones that stand there and yell the kids name over and over as it runs towards the busy road instead of actually going after it and stopping the accident. The ones that allow their children to just go off and interfere with everything and anyone else in the super market and then has a blue fit at you dare you comment on it.
Nurses attend courses on phlebotomy and cannulation and then need to complete an extensive competency booklet before being allowed to carry out these procedures unsupervised - whereas most doctors I know just learn these skills 'on the job'. Most nurses are much better at these procedures than junior doctors though doctors obviously become skilled with more experience.
Nurses attend courses on phlebotomy and cannulation and then need to complete an extensive competency booklet before being allowed to carry out these procedures unsupervised - whereas most doctors I know just learn these skills 'on the job'. Most nurses are much better at these procedures than junior doctors though doctors obviously become skilled with more experience.
Just caught up with this and really enjoying it, but the one thing that sticks out to me is how scruffy some of the girls look...No white coats anymore (shame) most of the men seem to wear scrubs, but the girls seem to wear what they want. The girls with the long hair should have it tied up! Also they seem to carry handbags, I presume as the white coats have gone they need to put all their stuff somewhere!
Nurses attend courses on phlebotomy and cannulation and then need to complete an extensive competency booklet before being allowed to carry out these procedures unsupervised - whereas most doctors I know just learn these skills 'on the job'. Most nurses are much better at these procedures than junior doctors though doctors obviously become skilled with more experience.
Do wish the doctors had to do this. I think it is unfair the newly qualified doctors are sent on duty at night, in charge of a whole hospital, and haven't even been trained in basic procedures.
It is also so unfair on the patients, one of the doctors, Andy, went back several times to the same patient attempting cannulation with no success.
Do wish the doctors had to do this. I think it is unfair the newly qualified doctors are sent on duty at night, in charge of a whole hospital, and haven't even been trained in basic procedures.
It is also so unfair on the patients, one of the doctors, Andy, went back several times to the same patient attempting cannulation with no success.
Junior Doctors are not in charge of a whole hospital, they are senior doctors on as well. And there is a Senior nurse who is in charge of the hospital at nights, I am not sure about the bigger city hospitals but where I work there is always consultants that are on call, maybe in the larger city hospitals they stay overnight.
But I agree that they need more training on basic things such as venepuncture and canulation.
Do wish the doctors had to do this. I think it is unfair the newly qualified doctors are sent on duty at night, in charge of a whole hospital, and haven't even been trained in basic procedures.
It is also so unfair on the patients, one of the doctors, Andy, went back several times to the same patient attempting cannulation with no success.
Junior doctors are definitely not in charge of a whole hospital. As the previous poster has said, it's generally a senior nurse who is designated 'in charge' of the hospital at night with a manager on call, at home. Junior doctors are not really in charge of anything but I realise the programme is edited to make it appear as if they were. I can only speak from the experience of working in London hospitals (but I'm sure it's the same everywhere) but junior doctors act as dogsbodies for the more senior doctors and - and there's definitely always someone more senior available in the case of real emergencies or serious situations. For example, if I was really concerned about a patient I would bypass the junior doctor and refer straight to a more experienced one, it depends on the urgency of the situation because, obviously, junior doctors need to learn and gain experience. However, junior doctors do learn very quickly, they're obviously very intelligent people so they become competent and 'useful' in a fairly brief time span.
people who are saying 22 is too young, theyre only trainee doctors! theyre not qualified hence the term jnr and hence why they are taking blood!
They are qualified-they are foundation doctors, not medical students. All newly qualified doctors do two years as foundation doctors prior to specialising.
Not a fan of Princess Priya (?) or the other posh girl but I do like Lucy. Totally agree about red truck, yellow truck doctor he just seems a tad boring
I've not taken to Priya or Milla either. When they went shopping after they were paid it struck me that they have probably never had to really 'go without'!
I do like Lucy though-she seems to be down to earth and grounded-good way with the patients too. It will be interesting to see how they all get on over the coming programmes.
Having just got out of hospital after a 36 night stay (yes really! Right through Christmas and New Year too!) I had to have a total of 22 cannulas fitted, and I have no idea how many vials of blood taken for tests.
Now with the blood tests, there was no real drama. However, the fitting of cannulas was a different story! The reason I had so many is that although they should last up to 4 days, some of mine were lasting only 24 hrs before my veins collapsed, one lasted only 8 hours! Doctors (of all levels of seniority!) and nurses of all levels of experience used to come in and say "who is it that needs the cannula? Oh no! Not you!" It would appear that I have "difficult veins!" However, if it was someone new that came to do it, I told them this, and at no time did I complain when it took 6/7/8 attempts in both hands, arms and eventually feet to get a cannula in.
It is not always through inexperience, the patient needs to stay relaxed. The Dr / nurse is only trying to help and I felt too often, both on this programme and in the ward I was in, too many people liked to make a fuss and always wanted the most senior person available to be the only person to deal with them!
My philosophy, if I became the priority for the senior Dr's and nurses (and unfortunately one night I was) then I needed to get worried because that meant I was seriously ill, if I got the juniors, I didn't have to worry as I obviously wasn't the most ill person in hospital!
Having just got out of hospital after a 36 night stay (yes really! Right through Christmas and New Year too!) I had to have a total of 22 cannulas fitted, and I have no idea how many vials of blood taken for tests.
Now with the blood tests, there was no real drama. However, the fitting of cannulas was a different story! The reason I had so many is that although they should last up to 4 days, some of mine were lasting only 24 hrs before my veins collapsed, one lasted only 8 hours! Doctors (of all levels of seniority!) and nurses of all levels of experience used to come in and say "who is it that needs the cannula? Oh no! Not you!" It would appear that I have "difficult veins!" However, if it was someone new that came to do it, I told them this, and at no time did I complain when it took 6/7/8 attempts in both hands, arms and eventually feet to get a cannula in.
It is not always through inexperience, the patient needs to stay relaxed. The Dr / nurse is only trying to help and I felt too often, both on this programme and in the ward I was in, too many people liked to make a fuss and always wanted the most senior person available to be the only person to deal with them!
My philosophy, if I became the priority for the senior Dr's and nurses (and unfortunately one night I was) then I needed to get worried because that meant I was seriously ill, if I got the juniors, I didn't have to worry as I obviously wasn't the most ill person in hospital!
I have to say nurses are not always better at taking blood - I had to have an all day renal blood test thingy which meant taking quite a bit of blood therefore a lot of needles. The nurses who took my blood weren't that great and I ended up in with a bruised arm and very sore arm. Before anyone says it I know that was just my experience and not the overall case but I was adding my two penneth.
As I have previously my sister is a doctor and is an ST1 so is just in her department but when she was an FY1/2 I don't remember her doing this running round the whole hospital thing that the Junior doctors do
I've not taken to Priya or Milla either. When they went shopping after they were paid it struck me that they have probably never had to really 'go without'!
I'd say a lot of Doctors, come from wealthy backgrounds...does it matter, really...rich or poor.
A good doctor is a good doctor whatever their background or wealth. This bunch all look to have interesting characters, not saying I'd like them all if I met them!
I'm also going to vice Amieth and A&E don't go together, at least not so far. The phone going off while he was on duty was totally unprofessional.
Like Forgotmyname, I spent over a month in hospital and met many young doctors. The ones who listened got much more information out of me and seeing as they get minimal people skills training, it was easy to spot the drs who had natural ability in that direction.
More personnel skills and phlebotomy training required by all junior doctors! Might change my mind after watching this series.... Doubt it though.
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Can't they just shoot him with a tranquilliser gun and then put the canulla in?
His odd interchange with the woman who had suffered a fall (red lorry, yellow lorry), where he appeared to not want to be there at all and did not try to hide the fact.
And the awkward "alien master race" and "Batman" comments, broadcast across the hospital... :rolleyes:
The others seem to be trying hard, however.
Giro - House
Note how his mother did nothing to help
That's what we all said, at least the doctor was telling to look away. When I was 11 I was really put off needles as a junior doctor told me I had rubbish veins when he was trying to put a drip in the back of my hand which is the most painful place to stick a needle and he caused me pain. Fair enough I wasn't Alfie's age but having a needle stuck in you is really painful.
Not a fan of Princess Priya (?) or the other posh girl but I do like Lucy. Totally agree about red truck, yellow truck doctor he just seems a tad boring
Ben and Kids....don't mix.
Priya....nights, and hurting Patients...Should their be more Training, for fixing drips in patients.:rolleyes:
And Pay Day for them....they seemed surprised at how much they got.:eek:
A day with a phlebotomist would be an excellent idea, I think too they should do a first aid course and spend some time as a health care assistant.
Think Amieth would perhaps be suited to being a rural GP seeing 3 patients an hour and Sameer (aka Batman)....please go into research/surgery!
So true Amieth is quite a slow doctor and Sameer is not a people person. I think all junior doctors should go on blood taking/putting drips in courses
Typical of many (NOT ALL!) mothers today. The ones that stand there and yell the kids name over and over as it runs towards the busy road instead of actually going after it and stopping the accident. The ones that allow their children to just go off and interfere with everything and anyone else in the super market and then has a blue fit at you dare you comment on it.
Do wish the doctors had to do this. I think it is unfair the newly qualified doctors are sent on duty at night, in charge of a whole hospital, and haven't even been trained in basic procedures.
It is also so unfair on the patients, one of the doctors, Andy, went back several times to the same patient attempting cannulation with no success.
Junior Doctors are not in charge of a whole hospital, they are senior doctors on as well. And there is a Senior nurse who is in charge of the hospital at nights, I am not sure about the bigger city hospitals but where I work there is always consultants that are on call, maybe in the larger city hospitals they stay overnight.
But I agree that they need more training on basic things such as venepuncture and canulation.
Junior doctors are definitely not in charge of a whole hospital. As the previous poster has said, it's generally a senior nurse who is designated 'in charge' of the hospital at night with a manager on call, at home. Junior doctors are not really in charge of anything but I realise the programme is edited to make it appear as if they were. I can only speak from the experience of working in London hospitals (but I'm sure it's the same everywhere) but junior doctors act as dogsbodies for the more senior doctors and - and there's definitely always someone more senior available in the case of real emergencies or serious situations. For example, if I was really concerned about a patient I would bypass the junior doctor and refer straight to a more experienced one, it depends on the urgency of the situation because, obviously, junior doctors need to learn and gain experience. However, junior doctors do learn very quickly, they're obviously very intelligent people so they become competent and 'useful' in a fairly brief time span.
They are qualified-they are foundation doctors, not medical students. All newly qualified doctors do two years as foundation doctors prior to specialising.
I've not taken to Priya or Milla either. When they went shopping after they were paid it struck me that they have probably never had to really 'go without'!
I do like Lucy though-she seems to be down to earth and grounded-good way with the patients too. It will be interesting to see how they all get on over the coming programmes.
Now with the blood tests, there was no real drama. However, the fitting of cannulas was a different story! The reason I had so many is that although they should last up to 4 days, some of mine were lasting only 24 hrs before my veins collapsed, one lasted only 8 hours! Doctors (of all levels of seniority!) and nurses of all levels of experience used to come in and say "who is it that needs the cannula? Oh no! Not you!" It would appear that I have "difficult veins!" However, if it was someone new that came to do it, I told them this, and at no time did I complain when it took 6/7/8 attempts in both hands, arms and eventually feet to get a cannula in.
It is not always through inexperience, the patient needs to stay relaxed. The Dr / nurse is only trying to help and I felt too often, both on this programme and in the ward I was in, too many people liked to make a fuss and always wanted the most senior person available to be the only person to deal with them!
My philosophy, if I became the priority for the senior Dr's and nurses (and unfortunately one night I was) then I needed to get worried because that meant I was seriously ill, if I got the juniors, I didn't have to worry as I obviously wasn't the most ill person in hospital!
Welcome, Forgottenmyname.
Hope you are feeling fine now.
As I have previously my sister is a doctor and is an ST1 so is just in her department but when she was an FY1/2 I don't remember her doing this running round the whole hospital thing that the Junior doctors do
I'm also going to vice Amieth and A&E don't go together, at least not so far. The phone going off while he was on duty was totally unprofessional.
Like Forgotmyname, I spent over a month in hospital and met many young doctors. The ones who listened got much more information out of me and seeing as they get minimal people skills training, it was easy to spot the drs who had natural ability in that direction.
More personnel skills and phlebotomy training required by all junior doctors! Might change my mind after watching this series.... Doubt it though.