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Rihanna - Pop legends or bland robot?
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This link takes you to a story where two guys are arguing over whether Rihanna is brilliant or overrated tosh.
What do you think?
http://www.differentscene.co.uk/?p=3725
What do you think?
http://www.differentscene.co.uk/?p=3725
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Ha! No messing around with you, is there, Mrs Ball?!
Anyway, Rihanna isn't anything special. She's had some good songs but none of them were really down to her, and she's yet to release a really consistent album, nor is she a great singer. She's better than a lot of today's plastic popstars, but still nothing remarkable or particularly memorable.
None fans will slate her, fans will praise her. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground with Rihanna for some reason.
Gaga stans in particular seem to hate her.
Perfectly put.
The comment (in the article) about KP and Gaga is funny:D.
The current girls (Rihanna, Lady Gaga and Perry) seem to be more concerned with sales, statistics and technical accolades rather than the actual music. It is killing the music industry.
Both of you are talking bollocks.
Whether you like her or not is irrelevant to the fact that she is not bland.
She wears no clothes just to get attention, her songs are awful & to top it all off, she has no sex appeal whatsoever . . . .
Rihanna has hardly any creative control and her tracks are overplayed and hyped enough to be considered smashes, but nothing she's done is legendary or even iconic.I know that the word "legend" is churned out a lot, but for the biggest part of her career, Rihanna has been unable to sing, dance, perform, connect with the audience and be interesting, so I REALLY don't think she's a pop legend AT ALL!
On the other hand, I don't think she's completely a robot either.She has some songs that are really worth discovering and of course she had the whole RR era which was very creative and ballsy, so she might as well become a great artist in the next few years, but for now...not much more than a disposable hit machine
She's a hit machine in every sense of the word. On one hand, the sheer volume of hits she already has is impressive and it's only going to continue to grow, on the other it's hard not to be cynical of the conveyer belt of manufactured material she lends her name to. The team behind her who select the songs are clearly on a roll.
I think it's undeniable that she has "the x factor", because despite her shortcomings as an artist (mediocre musical talent, non-skilled performer, minimal creative input, often questionable material) she still manages to keep people interested. People really like her, as opposed to Katy Perry (who is on a similar level) who doesn't seem to inspire much interest or likability beyond her singles.
In terms of "pop legend", I think she has a good chance of being around for quite a while and will amass a very impressive back catalog...but she doesn't seem to really have much respect as a credible act. She's like this generations Britney, mass popularity and pop icon status but not (and unlikely ever) a legend. I think she's a label puppet with the musical integrity of a spoon, but I don't think she's a "bland robot". She's got too much fire for that.
I have other issues with her, but they're semi-irrelevant to the thread and I'd be here for a while. :sleep:
ETA: I forgot to mention, that her biggest selling point in pop history is that there hasn't been another Rihanna. She isn't "breaking the mould", but doesn't really fit in one either. Gaga and Britney can effectively fit in the "Madonna mould", Beyonce in the "Tina Turner/Diana Ross mould", and Katy in the "Pink/Cyndi Lauper mould". On one hand you could say that demonstrates that she could only be successful here and now, but on the other it could mean that she stands the test of time by simply not being in anyones shadow or like anyone else.
Erm well the black Madonna was actually huge in the 1970s and her name was Donna Summer.(I'm talking in terms of cultural impact incidentally and originality)
Hmm...Not really.I don't see any resemblance or influence :cool:
Her sales and record-breaking chart assaults will be remembered, but ultimately she has brought nothing new.
I meant I don't think Britney will be revered as a "Music Legend" (aka a legend within the music industry), but rather a "Pop Icon" because of the style of act that she is and all the celebrity drama she had. I think you have to be musically credible to be referred to as a "Legend", someone who will be cited as an influence for generations to come, but that's for another thread.
+ What I mean by those lists, is that you can kind of put them in boxes, as opposed to their influences. Katy Perry isn't much like Pink or Cyndi Lauper, but she could effectively be placed alongside them, along with Kelly Clarkson etc. because of their punchy and catchy, typically lighthearted pop/rock. They all do it differently though.
I'm actually going to see her in concert tomorrow - I wouldn't normally but my friend got free tickets
Another factor is that the american industry don't take her seriously. She is finding it hard to gain the respect of her peers.
Rihanna's popularity is mainly in here and some european countries. She is a bit like Kylie Minogue.
Time will tell