Cheryl lands 4th number 1 single - ties with chart record.
Cheryl is officially number 1 this week with Crazy Stupid Love and she ties with Geri and Rita Ora for most numbers 1's from a British female, with four.
http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/crazy-stupid-love-secures-cheryl-a-place-in-official-chart-history-books-3295/
I didn't think she could beat Rude this week, but she managed it, I'm sure they will be number 1 next week though.
She sold 118k this week.
http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/crazy-stupid-love-secures-cheryl-a-place-in-official-chart-history-books-3295/
I didn't think she could beat Rude this week, but she managed it, I'm sure they will be number 1 next week though.
She sold 118k this week.
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you mean to tell me that the digital spy showbiz forum isn't the sole barometer of public opinion ?
I also think Geri's Mi Chico Latino is better than all Cheryl & Ritas.
At least Rita Ora can sing, Cheryl Cole isn't even a singer. Dusty Springfield and Kate Bush only ever had 1 number one single in the UK. Unbelievable. Of course, will any of Cole or Ora's records be remembered in 40 years?
now i know from experience, this #1 wouldn't be music to your ears,;-) however, i dont honestly think geri's #1's really stood the test of time. i am thinking more generally, away for on line forums, where people are simply offering opinions.
you're quite correct, geri scored 4 #1's in a row, but her solo career went into decline following her cover of "it's raining men" and i don't really feel people consider her version of that song the definitive version. also, geri is yet to release her 4 solo album despite working on it for several years.
what cheryl has demonstrated, against all the odds quite frankly, is longevity, albeit only in the uk. with or without her x factor judging role, all her lead singles have gone to #1 and this is 5 years after she launched her solo career, while geri was in terminal decline 5 years into her solo career.
now i liked geri's music, but i don't honestly feel any of her #1's are considered pop standards over a decade later. as for cheryl, well she will always have that million selling single "fight for this love" and i think that will be the song that people will remember her for as a solo singer in a decades time.:)
well technically is a singer, she's just not a particularly talented one. cheryl is more of a performance pop star and dancing is probably her most prominent talent. pop stars, especially female ones that have gone solo having formerly been in a pop group are usually here today, gone tomorrow. somehow cheryl has managed to buck that trend and while people on line have come up with numerous negative theories, perhaps its just simply down to her lead singles being catchy enough to reach #1.:D
i don't really understand why people find this news "depressing" or "unbelievable", because the singles charts has always been based at what is popular at any given week, rather than a barometer of talent or quality.
the irony of all of this for me is that when i joined the forum, except for her singles, i really didn't like cheryl that much or her music, having bought her first two albums based on the strength of her singles. however, due to the overwhelming amount of sheer irrational hatred from people on here, i started to support the underdog.:D i have to say, that even though she has suffered diminishing returns in terms of album sales, her last album was actually pretty good.
of course, she will never be remembered fondly for her talents like dusty and kate are, but they are not really her peers anyway. singers like dusty/kate were/are considered talented artists, cheryl is a pop star, nothing more and nothing less. surely, the likes of louise redknapp, rachel stevens and geri halliwell are more suitable comparisons?!;-)
What a sensible post! Very true, Cheryl doesnt pretend to be anything she's not, except in the ways that all pop stars do (I have a lot of influences, I'm very artistic etc) which everyone knows to be largely just empty words anyway.
And you know what? I NEVER see Cheryl compared to the likes of those you mentioned above; teeny pop and British-only success female pop singers and female singers that used to bein a pop group. Compared to Rachel Stevens or someone like Posh Spice she holds up pretty well I think; that's a lot more the league she should be compared to.
Don't anyone forget the Cheeky Girls had a run of three top three and four top ten singles back in the day - the pop charts/singles charts have NEVER been about quality over marketing/playing the game. Its just we tend to remember the good acts from yesteryear and forget a lot of the dross.
Anyway if Cheryl holds the record she'll be remembered just for that until someone else knocks her off (I'm putting my money on Adele in five years time)
It is beyond ridiculous
The record was spoken of simply as the first British female to have 5 number ones (Cheryl currently has four along with Rita Ora and Geri Halliwell). That record doesn't differentiate between 'performance pop star' and 'queen of soul' and 'enigmatic genius', I'm afraid. So it is perfectly fair to make the comparison.
Dusty Springfield and Kate Bush actually were pop stars of their day and they had to perform not survive on technology to maintain their careers. Then there's all the rest of the UK Female talent including Annie Lennox, Amy Winehouse, Alison Moyet, Lisa Stansfield, Dido, Sade, Emeli Sande, Florence Welch, Jessie J....who are also pop stars who can sing and write in many cases. Some of us feel that real talent should get the recognition and an obsession with numbers and sales (I think XF might have something to do with that!) can hide where the real talent lies.
I think pop stars can and should have some talent and I am glad there are so many female artists actually being successful these days, that wasn't always so. I would like the new female artists to aspire to be someone like Adele or Emeli Sande rather than Cheryl Cole.
I would suggest that making records on which you 'sing' is pretending to be something you are not but it's debatable.
The reason why there aren't comparisons to 'pop stars' pf the past is there weren't many who couldn't sing. Lulu, Sandy Shaw, Petula Clarke were pop stars in the 60s, Tina Charles, Kiki Dee, Elkie Brooks (70s), Annie Lennox, Kelly Marie, Sheena Easton (80s) Gabrielle, Gina G, Lisa Stansfield (90s). They could all at least sing and they weren't all serious artists at all. I remember The Dooleys, Tight Fit, Bucks Fizz, Sinitta, etc. There's the odd bit of dross in there.
This phenomenon of the non-singing "celebrity' pop star is actually relatively new. Technology makes it possible.
Well, I think Cheryl etc CAN sing, just not as well and just can't necessarily sing everything. She's not a soprano, is she, and a lot of pop singers are, and a lot of the songs written for her are, right?
You could well argue that Britney or Madonna aren't great singers either compared to someone like Dusty.
exactly. cheryl's fans are hardly making a big deal about this statistic in this thread, so why is it even such an issue. the single charts has never been an indicator of talent or quality, so why is it suddenly such a farce. cheryl's single just happens to be most popular single this week in the uk, she'll undoubtedly drop to a lower position next week and that is typically the nature of single charts.
I agree with this totally and i write that as a huge madonna fan. of course, Cheryl can sing, just not as well as many other female singers, but there is tone to her voice that i find personally appealing. she's not in the same league as many questionable comparisons put forward here, so i am not going to continue to dignify these ridiculous comparisons with responses, but just like madonna and britney, she doesn't claim to be a particularly gifted singer anyway.
They've all had success outside of the UK. Geri is obvious. Cheryl and Rita have both had hits in other European countries and Australasia. Cheryl hasn't ever charted in the US though, whilst Rita has (she's currently got a new song with Iggy Azalea climbing the charts fast there).
I love Black Widow. It could well be her 5th number 1 when released here in September:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nimu7-16B14
Well Cheryl seldom does live performance, so it's hard to tell if she can actually sing. But on the few occasions I have heard her live, not much cop.
Yes, this is just a statistic but people are obsessed with stats here, and if it's just a chart and not a measure of quality. It's like they are all being fans of something that is not worth listening to?!?! Figure that?
Oh and Madonna can sing, play a bit too and write. Different league from Cheryl Cole.
I'm not sure it does show longevity tbh. I'm not meaning this as a dig, it's just an observation.
She may be 5 years in but she's hardly released any music in that time when you actually look at her career; her solo career is very stop and start
FFTL received a lot of hype because it was her first single.
Promise This was billed as her big comeback after her divorce/Malaria battle.
Call my Name was hyped as her 'comeback' after being sacked from XF and she'd taken a year off.
Here we are with CSL and again it's billed as a comeback after a year off.
With the exception of Parachute, the rest of her singles haven't particularly made an impact at all. It's quite surprising when you think she's already on her fourth album, yet she's hardly actually released anything. I'm not sure it does show longevity, does it?
3 Words was a hit too, her biggest in Australia, where it climbed to a peak of 5. The only two singles that didn't do well were, The Flood and Under The Sun, though UTS hung around the charts for a while, just didn't particularly reach a high peak.
I think 3/4 albums in five years is quite a fair bit, yeah you would think she would have released more singles, but circumstances prevented that. Messy Little Raindrops ended after the poor performance of the second single, plus apparently she decided to move on so she could concentrate on X Factor USA move. A Million Lights should have had more singles, it had other hits, but Girls Aloud reunited in the middle of it, she did announce a third single, but it was decided they would focus their efforts on Girls Aloud with the plan to go back to the album once the tour was over, but that took months and by then she said she just felt it time to take a break, plus people had moved on by then.
That's what I thought when I opened this thread. As another poster said, I see Cheryl Cole as a celebrity who ventures into pop music, rather than a pop singer with outside interests these days.