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Pregnanat woman leaves anti-abortionists speechless.
ramraideruk
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I saw this in the Mirror. The pregnant woman response to the anti-abortionists,in the accompanying video, is amazing.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/watch-pregnant-charity-workers-awesome-4750291
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/watch-pregnant-charity-workers-awesome-4750291
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Interesting that a bloke protesting outside the clinic with that camera and will never ever be in the position of a girl/woman who may have been raped, molested or become pregnant from forced incest among many reason's why a woman would go to an abortion clinic for advice or an abortion.
Good footage.
I don't think the shape of someone's genitals has any bearing on anyone's right to an opinion on abortion. Those aborted are both male and female.
I'm all for free speech on this issue. Protest and counter protest is absolutely fine. People who can't accept protest or counter protest on this issue are wrong. It's quite a fundamental thing worth disagreeing about.
Dont you agree that the way its done is distasteful?
Protest to government? Fine. Sending mail to abortion clinics? A pain to the postman and whoever opens it maybe. But protesting in front of a clinic where women are currently going in/inside/coming out for the procedure? Wrong.
Also most of the images they use come from illegal abortions. If they got their way and made abortion illegal then all they suceed in doing is making every future abortion as disgusting as the images they shove in peoples faces.
I think it's perfectly valid public protest, as is counter protest. If it offends or upsets people that's just tough. I'm not entitled to live my life without being offended or upset and free speech is paramount on issues of great importance.
What happens in legal abortions which is nicer than the illegal ones?
I think that people are allowed to disagree with abortions and I think it should be debated. However I don't think it is acceptable to use fake images of alledgely aborted embroys under 9 weeks to try and trick women into exercising their rights to what they want with their own bodies. Using intimidation, harrassment and shaming to try and force them into making the wrong decision. These anti abortion protesters aren't interested in debate they just want to force their own opinions onto other people.
Everyone can have an opinion on anything. That is not the point I was making.
How can a man ever understand what a woman goes through if pregnancy is the result of rape or sexual abuse?
No one is saying a man has no right to an opinion on abortion. Look at the context I'm talking about please.
And please don't tell me that those that are aborted are both male and female which is such an obvious thing to say. Don't be so condesending.
I think it is very dangerous, women should be well informed by trained medical professions who know what they are talking about, not bombarded with false information by people with an agenda.
I advocate abortion, however I don't shove it down people's throats. These people are free to believe what they want but they cross the line when they encroah on the people who are having to make this hard decision.
You get to decide what you say in YOUR posts, not what I say in mine. On your main point, although men will not literally understand such an experience by experiencing it themselves, men are capable of empathy and of a degree of understanding when emotional disress is relayed to them.
Women are also capable of understanding and empathising with others with regard to things they have not experienced.
Yes, and those trained professionals only ever inform without taking any kind of persuasive role in the process eh?
That is not the point I was making or nowhere near it I'm afraid.
If you insist on being condesending to me, please leave my post alone.
Certainly not and I insist on nothing.
Secondly when I had my miscarriage is was emotionally horrid not because I was losing a baby but because I was losing the future of a child, I actually passed the foetus and sac without even knowing apart from cramps and heavy bleeding. no limbs, no human looking body, just blood which is mainly the lining of the uterus and I had a perfectly normal pregnancy.
I believe in the right to protest, but this isn't protesting its intimidation, and what I believe has really angered the women in the video is the Kids Company would be counselling young girls who may have to make this choice and most like would probably use that particular clinic, which is why the choice of that spot is in poor taste. If they want to protest what not take their disgusting propaganda to Piccadilly square or parliament as wouldn't that receive more media attention? Rather than do what their actually doing which is shaming women who are ready to make their decision. Believe me when I say there have been many women of all different walks of life who have come through my care and have decided because of medical, emotional or social reasons to not continue their pregnancy and I have never ever come across a women who has been flippant or unaffected by it.
Now their banners in the campaign were around the 7-9 week mark. The before and after pictures would be in reality exactly the same, except for the background. However i almost guarentee their pictures used in their protests dont reflect that at all.
But why on earth would showing women a picture of a foetus affect them in the way they hope? They know what to expect. Women arent stupid. They are told about the procedure and know what they are likely to see/experience.
You wouldnt expect a doctor to turn up on a cancer ward and show the patients who are refusing treatment photos of corpses would you? Likewise you wouldnt show them detailed photos of tumours.
From my personal experience they were very informative and gave a very balanced view they didn't try to persuade me to do anything. They just gave me the facts and let me make my own decision.
That's not always the case though, is it?
How would you know? What is your experience of abortion?