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Krakow/ Auschwitz

Mr__XMr__X Posts: 49
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Hi

I will be returning to Krakow next week after initially visitng in summer. I plan to revisit Auschwitz & Birkenau - this time without a guide and I have a couple of questions;

1. Would you advise getting the bus or train from Krakow to Auschwitz?

2. If you catch the bus, where from/ to? I am familiar with the location of the train station and I am assuming that you catch the train to Oświęcim.

3. Will I need to catch a taxi from the train station/ bus stop in Oświęcim to Auschwitz?

4. I am aware that there are shuttle buses between the two camps, where are these located?

Also, has anybody been to the Krakow-Plaszow camp? is this worth visiting and if it is how do you get there?

Thanks

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    Bulletguy1Bulletguy1 Posts: 18,429
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    No idea of train prices in Poland but bus prices are so cheap you don't even think of cost and Krakow to Oświęcim isn't that far anyway.

    The shuttle bus goes from Auschwitz main camp to Birkenau and back.

    I visited Plaszow this year. Afraid there isn't an awful lot to see apart from a large memorial though the grounds are quite large. Plaszow is a suburb of Krakow and quite near the city centre itself. The house where Amon Goth the Camp Commandant lived is still standing (it's been up for sale for years).

    I'm assuming you are not with a vehicle and using public transport so the easiest way for you to get to Plaszow would be by taxi or bus from Krakow. It's only a few miles from the city centre. I do have the gps co-ords for it but don't think they will be of any use to you?
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    jsmith99jsmith99 Posts: 20,382
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    1. The bus is quicker than the train, though I've read the train journey is interesting - like going back to the 1960s.

    2. The bus leaves from the main train station.

    3. The bus stop is outside the visitor centre. Note that it's not the last stop, though I think it's obvious when you get there. However, I've read reports that buses back get very crowded in the afternoon.

    You'd need a taxi from the train station.

    4. There's a large carpark outside the visitor centre, and the shuttle bus leaves from there. The same at Birkenau, though that's spread out, and I don't know where the stop actually is.
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    Mr__XMr__X Posts: 49
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    Ok thanks.
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    Mr__XMr__X Posts: 49
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    Just to be clear, I can get the bus from the train station in Krakow and it takes you pretty much straigh to Auschwitz? Whereas the train would require a taxi from the station?

    How long does the bus take?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 515
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    i went last year and not to sound totally snobbish but we actually hired a private driver for 3 days ,he took us there, booked our tickets, picked us a guide who would take us round, he arranged everything, even refused to let us take the bus to the main camp with all the visitors and insisted he took us.

    total price. £500 plus he paid for all entry, he took us to the salt mines on seperate day as well, he was wonderful.

    I know this has nothing to do with your question but i would highly recommend anyone going to book a guide.
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    Bulletguy1Bulletguy1 Posts: 18,429
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    Tackomacko wrote: »
    i went last year and not to sound totally snobbish but we actually hired a private driver for 3 days ,he took us there, booked our tickets, picked us a guide who would take us round, he arranged everything, even refused to let us take the bus to the main camp with all the visitors and insisted he took us.

    total price. £500 plus he paid for all entry, he took us to the salt mines on seperate day as well, he was wonderful.

    I know this has nothing to do with your question but i would highly recommend anyone going to book a guide.
    £500!!! :eek::eek:

    That's generous of him to pay your entrance fee!! Also guides are inclusive with the entrance fee anyway so he wasn't getting you some kind of VIP treatment!!

    FWIW my personal opinion is Auschwitz is not really the best choice for anyone wanting to visit a Concentration Camp. I found it far too commercialised with coach tours pulling into the car park. Everybody goes to Auschwitz and some people amazingly even miss Birkenau which was the purpose built extermination camp (Auschwitz was a labour camp). The main entrance into Birkenau is what most people will be familiar with....they won't recognise anything in Auschwitz.

    Majdanek near Lublin in Poland is one of the best preserved Camps. It's huge, yet when I visited last year there were little more than a dozen cars on the car park.....and that was peak season during the summer!
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    jsmith99jsmith99 Posts: 20,382
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    Mr__X wrote: »
    Just to be clear, I can get the bus from the train station in Krakow and it takes you pretty much straigh to Auschwitz? Whereas the train would require a taxi from the station?

    How long does the bus take?

    About an hour and a quarter, I believe. The best place for info is the Krakow Forum on Trip Advisor. These questions crop up about once a week, so just go down the list of questions. And most of the people who answer know a lot more than I do. Which isn't difficult. :)
    Bulletguy1 wrote: »
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    That's generous of him to pay your entrance fee!! Also guides are inclusive with the entrance fee anyway so he wasn't getting you some kind of VIP treatment!!.................

    There's no entrance fee for either Auschwitz or Birkenau. If you visit in the summer, and arrive after 10am,, then you must join a guided tour. In the winter, you don't have to.

    If it were your first visit, I'd suggest going on a guided tour. Transport, transfer and guide for about £20.
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    vauxhall1964vauxhall1964 Posts: 10,360
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    I took the train from Krakow but be careful..we got off the train a stop too early but luckily realised in time and scrambled back on board. We walked from the train station to the camp..it didn't seem long. ... certainly no need for a taxi.

    My advice is get there early before the school parties and coach trips arrive
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    Bulletguy1 wrote: »
    FWIW my personal opinion is Auschwitz is not really the best choice for anyone wanting to visit a Concentration Camp. I found it far too commercialised with coach tours pulling into the car park. Everybody goes to Auschwitz and some people amazingly even miss Birkenau which was the purpose built extermination camp (Auschwitz was a labour camp). The main entrance into Birkenau is what most people will be familiar with....they won't recognise anything in Auschwitz.

    I'd disagree that people wouldn't recognise anything in Auschwitz. The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign is pretty infamous. I do agree that the better experience is at Birkenau though as it gives you a greater sense of the suffering that the persecuted went through due to the scale of the site. I can't imagine why you would want to miss out on this as a regular, free shuttle bus will ferry you between the two sites from right outside the Auschwitz visitor centre.

    To the person that recommended a £500 visit, that is more than my whole trip cost and is a ridiculous amount to pay when, without a whole lot of effort, you can make your own way there via public transport. It's amazing how scared some people are of doing things for themselves that they'll pay that kind of money for something so simple.

    Mr_X, just follow jsmith99's advice and also use the TripAdvisor forums as every question you can think of has already been asked in there for a popular destination such as Krakow.
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    Mr__XMr__X Posts: 49
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    I've been to Auschwitz in summer just gone and went on a guided tour which included transport etc, whilst it was a fantastic tour I felt it was abit rushed, especially Birkenau, and was also very busy due to it being peak season, that is why I will be going back on my own
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    Bulletguy1Bulletguy1 Posts: 18,429
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    jsmith99 wrote: »
    There's no entrance fee for either Auschwitz or Birkenau. If you visit in the summer, and arrive after 10am,, then you must join a guided tour. In the winter, you don't have to.

    If it were your first visit, I'd suggest going on a guided tour. Transport, transfer and guide for about £20.
    Thats correct...my error and i should have explained more clearly the price was for the guided tour. Can't remember the price i paid but it was nothing like £20 though it was five years ago.
    foy wrote: »
    I'd disagree that people wouldn't recognise anything in Auschwitz. The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign is pretty infamous.
    The same signs were used at the other Camps too. The point I was making is people will recognise the entrance into Birkenau rather than any of the buildings at Auschwitz.
    Mr__X wrote: »
    I've been to Auschwitz in summer just gone and went on a guided tour which included transport etc, whilst it was a fantastic tour I felt it was a bit rushed, especially Birkenau, and was also very busy due to it being peak season, that is why I will be going back on my own
    That was my experience of Auschwitz too. Go to any other Concentration Camp or one of the few Extermination Camps and there won't be any rush or crowds.

    Buchenwald is big and I visited there during peak season in summer and there were only half a dozen other folk there.

    No idea how much time you have got in Poland, but it would be well worth looking at visiting Majdanek Concentration Camp which is near to Lublin. Also Sobibor (Extermination) is not so far off here either.
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    GirlfromEireannGirlfromEireann Posts: 4,117
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    Visited both Auschwitz and Birkineau a few years ago....found it so upsetting and harrowing, don't know if I could go a 2nd time
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