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Labour's latest stunt-Civil Servants/Public Sector to be asked what their parents do.

steveh31steveh31 Posts: 13,516
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Again a DM story so take with a pinch of salt.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2764628/Public-sector-staff-asked-parents-living-cut-number-middle-class-privately-educated-staff.html

Looney Labour want to force civil servants and the public sector to reveal what their parents do so they can employ people from lower class backgrounds.

More time wasting statistics kept for no damn reason but to justify their own egos and that they are thinking about the bottom end of society.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 9,720
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    How would they enforce it?
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    nomad2kingnomad2king Posts: 8,415
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    It was said publicly at the Labour conference, so why on earth would it be false?

    The Guardian
    Labour will take action against class discrimination by asking public sector employers to monitor the social background of their workforce, Gloria de Piero, the shadow equalities minister, has said.
    Herald Scotland
    PUBLIC sector employers will have to monitor the social class of their staff under a Labour government in a move designed to improve social mobility, shadow equalities minister Gloria De Piero has announced.
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    StaunchyStaunchy Posts: 10,904
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    I wonder who Labour's leader and deputy leader would be if they implemented this exercise on themselves.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14,922
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    Maybe they're trying to counter nepotism?
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,659
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    WindWalker wrote: »
    Maybe they're trying to counter nepotism?

    The Labour party being against nepotism?! Ha. That's the funniest thing I've heard on here in ages. The party is stuffed full of Milibands, Benns, Harman-Dromneys, Balls-Coopers, Eagles and with a new generation of Kinnock, Prescott, Straw and Blair looking at following in the family business
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    paul2307paul2307 Posts: 8,079
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    Staunchy wrote: »
    I wonder who Labour's leader and deputy leader would be if they implemented this exercise on themselves.

    Don't be so silly you don't expect the Labour elite to follow the same rules as they expect us plebs to follow do you ?
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    steveh31 wrote: »
    Again a DM story so take with a pinch of salt.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2764628/Public-sector-staff-asked-parents-living-cut-number-middle-class-privately-educated-staff.html

    Looney Labour want to force civil servants and the public sector to reveal what their parents do so they can employ people from lower class backgrounds.

    More time wasting statistics kept for no damn reason but to justify their own egos and that they are thinking about the bottom end of society.

    So they will discriminate against people eminently qualified for jobs if their parents are hardworking and successful.
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    LostFool wrote: »
    The Labour party being against nepotism?! Ha. That's the funniest thing I've heard on here in ages. The party is stuffed full of Milibands, Benns, Harman-Dromneys, Balls-Coopers, Eagles and with a new generation of Kinnock, Prescott, Straw and Blair looking at following in the family business

    Well said.:D:D
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14,922
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    LostFool wrote: »
    The Labour party being against nepotism?! Ha. That's the funniest thing I've heard on here in ages. The party is stuffed full of Milibands, Benns, Harman-Dromneys, Balls-Coopers, Eagles and with a new generation of Kinnock, Prescott, Straw and Blair looking at following in the family business

    I would suggest the very narrow scope of opportunities within a party is somewhat different to the plethora of opportunities and places available in the civil service, wouldn't you?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14,922
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    So they will discriminate against people eminently qualified for jobs if their parents are hardworking and successful.

    Your making it up as you go along...again...

    The two are not mutually exclusive either.
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    mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    WindWalker wrote: »
    I would suggest the very narrow scope of opportunities within a party is somewhat different to the plethora of opportunities and places available in the civil service, wouldn't you?

    Why shouldn't they look in their own house before forcing their ideology elsewhere? Perhaps starting with the deputy leader and her husband's meteoric rise to the top (of an all women shortlist) with a safe seat quickly handed out.

    To paraphrase J. G. Brown: "Nepotism. It's in our DNA."
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    Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    Clearly something needs to be done as there's gross injustice when it comes to tsocial mobility and class discrimination in this country.

    Whether this is the right answer to it or not I don't know, but as things stand we have the Tories doing nothing.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14,922
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    moox wrote: »
    Why shouldn't they look in their own house before forcing their ideology elsewhere? Perhaps starting with the deputy leader and her husband's meteoric rise to the top (of an all women shortlist) with a safe seat quickly handed out.

    To paraphrase J. G. Brown: "Nepotism. It's in our DNA."

    And it's not in the Tories or Lib Dems? :confused:

    I was talking about the civil service, not parties. Someone else decided to shoehorn that in to the debate for purely political reasons...
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,659
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    moox wrote: »
    To paraphrase J. G. Brown: "Nepotism. It's in our DNA."

    "Nepotism: The Game the whole family can play."
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    Get Den WattsGet Den Watts Posts: 6,039
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    LostFool wrote: »
    The Labour party being against nepotism?! Ha. That's the funniest thing I've heard on here in ages. The party is stuffed full of Milibands, Benns, Harman-Dromneys, Balls-Coopers, Eagles and with a new generation of Kinnock, Prescott, Straw and Blair looking at following in the family business

    You forgot about the Alexanders.

    But it's OK for the Labour Party to do it because they're fighting the good socialist fight, or something along those lines. ;-)
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    mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    WindWalker wrote: »
    And it's not in the Tories or Lib Dems? :confused:

    I was talking about the civil service, not parties. Someone else decided to shoehorn that in to the debate for purely political reasons...

    It's the Labour party who want to probe civil servant backgrounds to discriminate (so much for equality for all) - the Conservatives or Lib Dems are not relevant here.
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    Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    Grants used to work a similar way I guess. Depending on how much ones parents earned (we're talking an 18+ adult here) you'd receive a university grant. If your parents were well off you wouldn't get one.
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,659
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    You forgot about the Alexanders.

    But it's OK for the Labour Party to do it because they're fighting the good socialist fight, or something along those lines. ;-)

    I didn't forget the Alexanders as I didn't realise that Douggie had a sister in Scottish politics until I looked it up. One I did forget was Rachel Reeves, whose sister Ellie is a member of Labour's National Executive Committee and and is married to John Cryer,

    Oh and Keith Vaz's sister is also an MP.
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    Alan1981Alan1981 Posts: 5,416
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    Labour can't resist a bit of social engineering.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14,922
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    moox wrote: »
    It's the Labour party who want to probe civil servant backgrounds to discriminate (so much for equality for all) - the Conservatives or Lib Dems are not relevant here.

    I made a suggestion, it isn't confirmed fact.

    As this diversion concerns party's, not the civil service, of course all party's are included.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14,922
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    LostFool wrote: »
    I didn't forget the Alexanders as I didn't realise that Douggie had a sister in Scottish politics until I looked it up. One I did forget was Rachel Reeves, whose sister Ellie is a member of Labour's National Executive Committee and and is married to John Cryer,

    Oh and Keith Vaz's sister is also an MP.

    Care to do the same for the Tories now?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 9,720
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    WindWalker wrote: »
    Care to do the same for the Tories now?

    Have the Tories ever claimed to believe in meritocracy?
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    Get Den WattsGet Den Watts Posts: 6,039
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    LostFool wrote: »
    I didn't forget the Alexanders as I didn't realise that Douggie had a sister in Scottish politics until I looked it up. One I did forget was Rachel Reeves, whose sister Ellie is a member of Labour's National Executive Committee and and is married to John Cryer,

    Oh and Keith Vaz's sister is also an MP.

    His mum and dad were Labour MPs. :D
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    StaunchyStaunchy Posts: 10,904
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    Someone's desperately desperate to get the Tories (and anyone else) into a topic about Labour.
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    Nessun DormaNessun Dorma Posts: 12,846
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    steveh31 wrote: »
    Again a DM story so take with a pinch of salt.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2764628/Public-sector-staff-asked-parents-living-cut-number-middle-class-privately-educated-staff.html

    Looney Labour want to force civil servants and the public sector to reveal what their parents do so they can employ people from lower class backgrounds.

    More time wasting statistics kept for no damn reason but to justify their own egos and that they are thinking about the bottom end of society.

    There is absolutely nothing in that article with that says civil servants will be forced to do anything.

    Not even the Daily Heil is that stupid to lie about that. But it seems that you are more than willing to add words where they did not exist before.

    So, how will these civil servant be forced to reveal the occupations of their parents? Will be threatened with the sack, perhaps? Put on the rack maybe, or will it be the dreaded comfy chair treatment?
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