She is not too fat.
She may be a mix of too "old" and too buxom. Certainly for me.
But she's lovely looking.
I'd just prefer a younger Nancy whom I could feel really had to struggle to assert herself and didn't have much natural pzazz but had to overcome her background and expectations to defy the gang.
She is not too fat.
She may be a mix of too "old" and too buxom. Certainly for me.
But she's lovely looking.
I'd just prefer a younger Nancy whom I could feel really had to struggle to assert herself and didn't have much natural pzazz but had to overcome her background and expectations to defy the gang.
I agree with this completely, I would want nancy to be a little older then the dodger, to emphasise that fagin also took her under his wing, and shows that he still has control over her, thats why i think jessie looks perfect for the part, however i would rather jodie win then sam, as i don't think sam looks like nancy at all, I can't decide why
If he thinks Jodie is too big to play Nancy (which is an absolutely dreadful thing to say) why on earth did he cast Sally Dexter in his last revival of Oliver .
She was not a young slip of a girl. She was exactly the same as Jodie is now.
JODIE TO WIN - She is perfect for the role of Nancy
And Cameron should be backing Jodie, because she's the only one even remotely capapble of playing Nancy in about 6 months time. Sam and Jessie wouldn't be ready for the role.
Maybe it's reverse psychology - maybe CM really
DOES want Jodie to win - but is worried that Jessie might pip her to the post.
So, he's being all negative - to try and get more people to vote for Jodie!:D
Or else he's just a complete &*$%*
TBH - all this 'fat' thing leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. The fact that we have people on here saying that Jodie is 'too fat' to play Jodie says more about the people posting than Jodie herself.
Can we please remember that Marilyn Monroe was size 16?
Matronly? I don't think so!
Imagine how she is going to feel if she reads that artical. After she worked so hard to loose weight.
C.M isn't a very sensitive man is he.
If there was a weight requirment for the roll it should have been stated in the autition requirments.
Of course Jodie isn't too fat to play Nancy.:rolleyes:
However, if Cameron does have an issue with her size, there are six months until curtain up. As we're always being told that Jessie/Sam will be able to learn to dance/act in that time, I can't see why Jodie can't lose some weight. If it's that big a deal.
It seems to me that they're all begining to realise that it's Jodie who has the public vote, and in order to save their favourites, the only thing they can start doing is bashing Jodie on weight issues (they've already had a go on age as well - haven't they?)
If the creative team are "really" saying such things, and it's possible that they have been misquoted in the first place, they should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves
Seems to me that they never really belived that Jodie would go so far and are terrified at the prospect that she will win the final
As far as I'm concerned, I've loved Jodie from the start and would love to see her win
She is not too fat.
She may be a mix of too "old" and too buxom. Certainly for me.
But she's lovely looking.
I'd just prefer a younger Nancy whom I could feel really had to struggle to assert herself and didn't have much natural pzazz but had to overcome her background and expectations to defy the gang.
I think Cleo would have been ace at this kind of Nancy. Unlike Sam and Jessie and Niamh, she wasn't given the opportunity to grow and improve vocally.
but, for me, who should be Nancy isn't about looks - all the girls were picked because they had something about them that would work as Nancy.
Now it's just about the talent - and for me, that's Jodie.
I must say I do consider looks as a fairly important part of the package.
But, having said that, Jessie looks more like what I specified above. Unfortunately I just don't rate her movement or her acting. So Jessie couldn't be my Nancy. And she's too tall.
So I am a bit "looksist". Shame Cleo didn't go further. She had the look.
I did agree that her vocals were inconsistant - but any more than the other youngsters? And I think she had more charisma them.
Let's think of it like Dr Who. When he regenerates he always looks different - this keeps the role fresh.
Was John pertwee too dapper for DW? Was Tom Baker too curly? Is David Tennant too thin? Was Christopher Eccleston too northern?
With Nancy some people imagine a waif, some imagine a buxom wench. I think either of these is fine. They both work.
Nancy isn't just one image of a person - line up all the people who've played Nancy professionally over the years and you'll have a line of very different looking people.
To be honest, I would take anything appearing in the Daily Goss with a pinch of salt. And considering that it's not even directly quoting CM makes me a bit dubious aboutaking the claim on face value. I'm not saying that it's not possible that CM feels this way, but I would be less surprised if it the Daily Goss taking 2 and 2 and getting 5.
I did agree that her vocals were inconsistant - but any more than the other youngsters? And I think she had more charisma them.
However, I think she was easily the worst singer of the bunch. I didn't notice this overly during her solos, but when she sang in the groups numbers it was obvious and then when she sang with Keisha in the sing off, there was just no comparison between them. Keisha was yards better than her. And I thought her ALAHNM was the worst of the bunch. I am sorry she wasn't better, because i liked her too, but I think she needed a lot more training before she was going to make it in MT.
Nancy was corrupted at the age of six by Fagin, the lovable but villainous person who persuades downtrodden youths to do his bidding. Her exact age is not mentioned in the book , although she has evidently been a prostitute for 12 years, and is visibly in her twenties or thirties in film versions of the novel.
Is Jodie Too FAT?
She is described thus when she first appears "a couple of young ladies called to see the young gentlemen; one of whom was named Bet, and the other Nancy. They wore a good deal of hair, not very neatly turned up behind, and were rather untidy about the shoes and stockings. They were not exactly pretty, perhaps; but they had a great deal of color in their faces, and looked quite stout and hearty."
So that's no and no.
Nancy is supposed to be "quite stout and in her late twenties"
The only think Jodie has "done wrong" is fallen foul of a couple of body facists on this show...
Nancy was corrupted at the age of six by Fagin, the lovable but villainous person who persuades downtrodden youths to do his bidding. Her exact age is not mentioned in the book , although she has evidently been a prostitute for 12 years, and is visibly in her twenties or thirties in film versions of the novel.
Is Jodie Too FAT?
She is described thus when she first appears "a couple of young ladies called to see the young gentlemen; one of whom was named Bet, and the other Nancy. They wore a good deal of hair, not very neatly turned up behind, and were rather untidy about the shoes and stockings. They were not exactly pretty, perhaps; but they had a great deal of color in their faces, and looked quite stout and hearty."
So that's no and no.
Nancy is supposed to be "quite stout and in her late twenties"
The only think Jodie has "done wrong" is fallen foul of a couple of body facists on this show...
i have never had a problem with jodies size at all but my mum (who is a dickens groupie) says that nancy can't be big because she is meant to live off gin and therefore is meant to be scrawny?
i dont have a problem but i do see others arguments- i think jodie has a brilliant chance of winning it and if she does i certainly wont be selling my tickets!
I think that's an awful thing to say because IMO Jodie isn't even fat, she's an average size,she only looks bigger because the others especially Sam has a blink and you'll miss it waist! Anyone would look big standing next to Sam and Jessie each week who still have the luxury of being in their teens where weight doesn't seem to stay on girls.
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She may be a mix of too "old" and too buxom. Certainly for me.
But she's lovely looking.
I'd just prefer a younger Nancy whom I could feel really had to struggle to assert herself and didn't have much natural pzazz but had to overcome her background and expectations to defy the gang.
I agree with this completely, I would want nancy to be a little older then the dodger, to emphasise that fagin also took her under his wing, and shows that he still has control over her, thats why i think jessie looks perfect for the part, however i would rather jodie win then sam, as i don't think sam looks like nancy at all, I can't decide why
She was not a young slip of a girl. She was exactly the same as Jodie is now.
JODIE TO WIN - She is perfect for the role of Nancy
And Cameron should be backing Jodie, because she's the only one even remotely capapble of playing Nancy in about 6 months time. Sam and Jessie wouldn't be ready for the role.
DOES want Jodie to win - but is worried that Jessie might pip her to the post.
So, he's being all negative - to try and get more people to vote for Jodie!:D
Or else he's just a complete &*$%*
TBH - all this 'fat' thing leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. The fact that we have people on here saying that Jodie is 'too fat' to play Jodie says more about the people posting than Jodie herself.
Can we please remember that Marilyn Monroe was size 16?
Matronly? I don't think so!
C.M isn't a very sensitive man is he.
If there was a weight requirment for the roll it should have been stated in the autition requirments.
However, if Cameron does have an issue with her size, there are six months until curtain up. As we're always being told that Jessie/Sam will be able to learn to dance/act in that time, I can't see why Jodie can't lose some weight. If it's that big a deal.
Slag her off for her weight and watch the votes come flooding in!
If he really hoped to put people off then it was a dumb thing to say!
Good post - I agree.
exactly my point...
I think Cleo would have been ace at this kind of Nancy. Unlike Sam and Jessie and Niamh, she wasn't given the opportunity to grow and improve vocally.
but, for me, who should be Nancy isn't about looks - all the girls were picked because they had something about them that would work as Nancy.
Now it's just about the talent - and for me, that's Jodie.
But, having said that, Jessie looks more like what I specified above. Unfortunately I just don't rate her movement or her acting. So Jessie couldn't be my Nancy. And she's too tall.
So I am a bit "looksist". Shame Cleo didn't go further. She had the look.
Let's think of it like Dr Who. When he regenerates he always looks different - this keeps the role fresh.
Was John pertwee too dapper for DW? Was Tom Baker too curly? Is David Tennant too thin? Was Christopher Eccleston too northern?
With Nancy some people imagine a waif, some imagine a buxom wench. I think either of these is fine. They both work.
Nancy isn't just one image of a person - line up all the people who've played Nancy professionally over the years and you'll have a line of very different looking people.
However, I think she was easily the worst singer of the bunch. I didn't notice this overly during her solos, but when she sang in the groups numbers it was obvious and then when she sang with Keisha in the sing off, there was just no comparison between them. Keisha was yards better than her. And I thought her ALAHNM was the worst of the bunch. I am sorry she wasn't better, because i liked her too, but I think she needed a lot more training before she was going to make it in MT.
Is Jodie too OLD?
Nancy was corrupted at the age of six by Fagin, the lovable but villainous person who persuades downtrodden youths to do his bidding. Her exact age is not mentioned in the book , although she has evidently been a prostitute for 12 years, and is visibly in her twenties or thirties in film versions of the novel.
Is Jodie Too FAT?
She is described thus when she first appears "a couple of young ladies called to see the young gentlemen; one of whom was named Bet, and the other Nancy. They wore a good deal of hair, not very neatly turned up behind, and were rather untidy about the shoes and stockings. They were not exactly pretty, perhaps; but they had a great deal of color in their faces, and looked quite stout and hearty."
So that's no and no.
Nancy is supposed to be "quite stout and in her late twenties"
The only think Jodie has "done wrong" is fallen foul of a couple of body facists on this show...
Good post....................:)
i dont have a problem but i do see others arguments- i think jodie has a brilliant chance of winning it and if she does i certainly wont be selling my tickets!
I had a gin and tonic followed by a risotto for my evening meal.
Oh woe is me:eek:
I think that's an awful thing to say because IMO Jodie isn't even fat, she's an average size,she only looks bigger because the others especially Sam has a blink and you'll miss it waist! Anyone would look big standing next to Sam and Jessie each week who still have the luxury of being in their teens where weight doesn't seem to stay on girls.