Well, she was put in a conventional prison and not a mental hospital unlike Brady, so I'm inclined to say evil, but then again if I'm honest I don't have much faith in the state correctly deeming whether people are mentally ill or not, so I'll just stick with saying I have no idea.
she wasn't ill at all. she was just pure evil. why would this even be debated.
Where did you get your information about her?
The bar for 'mental illness' as a defence is set very high. You can't just offer in defence that someone has a severe personality disorder, for example. It only counts as a defence if psychiatrists think you literally can't distinguish good from evil.
I doubt whether she ever approached that level. She seems to have been a damaged young woman devoid of empathy and fatally in thrall to her boyfriend. Away from him, she was never violent, as far as I know.
Why is it Hindley who gets all the hate? It was Brady who did the killing. It's doubtful she would have got involved with anything like that if it hadn't been for his influence, whereas he would have got himself another accomplice & killed anyway.
I think she was twisted and so obsessed with Brady that she'd have done ANYTHING to please him including luring victims for the very evil Brady to murder.
I think she is worse than say Maxine Carr but not as bad as say Ian Brady or Ian Huntley if that makes any sense.
I think she was twisted and so obsessed with Brady that she'd have done ANYTHING to please him including luring victims for the very evil Brady to murder.
I think she is worse than say Maxine Carr but not as bad as say Ian Brady or Ian Huntley if that makes any sense.
Why bring Maxine Carr into it? She had no involvement in the murders whatsoever.
Evil could be that something has been wrong in that person's brain since they were born. There must be for a very small percentage of people to commit the crimes they do. It's a shame that scientists haven't discovered how to stop this from happening.
Why is it Hindley who gets all the hate? It was Brady who did the killing. It's doubtful she would have got involved with anything like that if it hadn't been for his influence, whereas he would have got himself another accomplice & killed anyway.
Because he was a psychopath beyond reach. She wasn't a psychopath yet still partook in evil acts.
The sad state of affairs is she could have been mentally ill. I doubt very highly the posters on ds are in any qualified to give a definitive answer, but I'm sure people of the time studied her in the only way they knew how. The sad thing is even if she were diagnosed as completely unfit, whilst there may be a very small amount of understanding, it could never bring closure or anything of the kind to the families affected by hers and his actions.
I just wish things along that line would progress faster than they appear too so people can act rather than react. I know way too many people with severe mental health issues and know that our system is ill equipped in a big way to deal with it.
Why bring Maxine Carr into it? She had no involvement in the murders whatsoever.
I agree. I wish people would leave her alone. She was wrong for what she did, but she's served her time for those lies. She should be allowed to get on with her life.
Watching a programme about her and it seemed to suggest that she had a personality disorder such that she had to be what ever anyone wanted her to be. She was a murdering bitch with Brady as that was what he wanted. She was the contrite/innocent with Lord Longford as that is what he wanted etc.
So I reckon both. Although I am not sure that I know what the difference is. I think I do until I really start to think about it but any workable concept of evil I come up with could encompass mental illness.
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Damn! Beaten by mere seconds.
Where did you get your information about her?
The bar for 'mental illness' as a defence is set very high. You can't just offer in defence that someone has a severe personality disorder, for example. It only counts as a defence if psychiatrists think you literally can't distinguish good from evil.
I doubt whether she ever approached that level. She seems to have been a damaged young woman devoid of empathy and fatally in thrall to her boyfriend. Away from him, she was never violent, as far as I know.
I think she is worse than say Maxine Carr but not as bad as say Ian Brady or Ian Huntley if that makes any sense.
Why bring Maxine Carr into it? She had no involvement in the murders whatsoever.
Evil could be that something has been wrong in that person's brain since they were born. There must be for a very small percentage of people to commit the crimes they do. It's a shame that scientists haven't discovered how to stop this from happening.
Because he was a psychopath beyond reach. She wasn't a psychopath yet still partook in evil acts.
Did you even read what I wrote?
I just wish things along that line would progress faster than they appear too so people can act rather than react. I know way too many people with severe mental health issues and know that our system is ill equipped in a big way to deal with it.
I agree. I wish people would leave her alone. She was wrong for what she did, but she's served her time for those lies. She should be allowed to get on with her life.
So I reckon both. Although I am not sure that I know what the difference is. I think I do until I really start to think about it but any workable concept of evil I come up with could encompass mental illness.
To use as a relative marker.
She's worse than Maxine Carr indicates that Maxine commited a terrible crime.