OK - we are now halfway into S6 and I really don't see any kind of a rift between M & L. I rewatched the latest episode last night and really concentrated on their interactions. They seem fine to me. When Louisa was urging Martin to take James to storytime it seemed like they had developed a shorthand where he knows when she is pushing him to be a better father and husband. He knows that he needs her help to learn these things ("You could learn." "Yes, I could.") The other scenes between them really had an intimacy in my opinion. Especially when she peeked her head in the door to tell him dinner was almost ready. The tone of her voice was really sweet and then she gave him a dazzling smile.
Nope, I think (relationship-wise) everything is fine in the Ellingham house. Louisa seems to have settled into work-home and Mike taking care of the baby. Martin is starting to develop problems, but it seems to me not at all related to the state of his relationship with Louisa.
OK - we are now halfway into S6 and I really don't see any kind of a rift between M & L. I rewatched the latest episode last night and really concentrated on their interactions. They seem fine to me. When Louisa was urging Martin to take James to storytime it seemed like they had developed a shorthand where he knows when she is pushing him to be a better father and husband. He knows that he needs her help to learn these things ("You could learn." "Yes, I could.") The other scenes between them really had an intimacy in my opinion. Especially when she peeked her head in the door to tell him dinner was almost ready. The tone of her voice was really sweet and then she gave him a dazzling smile.
Nope, I think (relationship-wise) everything is fine in the Ellingham house. Louisa seems to have settled into work-home and Mike taking care of the baby. Martin is starting to develop problems, but it seems to me not at all related to the state of his relationship with Louisa.
Someone on FB remarked that Louisa seemed a good deal more confident in this series -- much more secure in her relationship with Martin. I was struck by that comment, which I think is largely true, and it parallels your post.
Just think --- we;ll know what they have in store for us in four more short weeks! (And then wait another two years.... for any resolution that might be needed:( )
Someone on FB remarked that Louisa seemed a good deal more confident in this series -- much more secure in her relationship with Martin. I was struck by that comment, which I think is largely true, and it parallels your post.
Just think --- we;ll know what they have in store for us in four more short weeks! (And then wait another two years.... for any resolution that might be needed:( )
I don't think they'll make us wait. I think (hope) it will be resolved in the last 2 mins of ep8. Imagine hoping for that when I'd be much happier with five minutes! :D:D
I refuse to entertain the worst case scenario. :rolleyes:
I don't think they'll make us wait. I think (hope) it will be resolved in the last 2 mins of ep8. Imagine hoping for that when I'd be much happier with five minutes! :D:D
I refuse to entertain the worst case scenario. :rolleyes:
Good for you! I'm with you cookie!
I doubt it will end like "St. Elsewhere" where the entire show took place inside a snow-globe owned by an autistic child.
I doubt it will end like "St. Elsewhere" where the entire show took place inside a snow-globe owned by an autistic child.
Rob
Wasn't that lame? At least, I thought it was. Not worthy of the whole production which was quite innovative and well-done.
Or, we could have him coming out the shower in a London hospital (like Bobby in Dallas, after his supposed death) and realizing that the preceding 6 seasons had been a bad dream!
I will grant you that anything would be better than those gimmicks!
Or in Seinfield in which the 4 principal characters end up in jail
Or in The Sopranos when Tony's family ends up a diner
I can't wait to see how Breaking Bad ends tonight. If they go with the cliche, the meth lab explodes. If they go with the lameness, the character is cured of cancer and has to go back to teaching
Two weeks ago I got "Practice Makes Perfect." What a disappointment! I started reading it, then skimming, then opening to various points toward the end to peek at those pages. Essentially, it was a rehash of S1, but with some slight plot changes. Not accurate enough to be authentic and not different enough to be interesting. Hoping the Christmas book is something new - not a rehash of the S2 Christmas special. What were they thinking?
I just had a thought that maybe with the first book, they were going with the introduction of the characters, village, etc. just as they did in S1 for TV, but for the potential book audience that never has seen the show or had access to it. In essence, a start-up for a whole new audience of the printed word. And not necessarily intended for the fan base of the show (especially, us diehards! though they had to expect us to want to read them as well.) Hmmmm.......
I will be curious to see the second book's story and whether it will cover new ground or embroider some already unviewed territory in the Port Wenn time frame of the show. Just went and looked at the cover for it and LG has the Series 3 concert dress on, I believe. But that may not mean anything.....???
Or in Seinfield in which the 4 principal characters end up in jail
Or in The Sopranos when Tony's family ends up a diner
I can't wait to see how Breaking Bad ends tonight. If they go with the cliche, the meth lab explodes. If they go with the lameness, the character is cured of cancer and has to go back to teaching
Some of the best tv show endings I can think of were: Mary Tyler Moore, Newhart, and MASH.
If BP hadn't decided to go forward with S6, I think the Castle scene would have been the perfect way to end the series.
We could all have had our own fantasies about how they lived "ever after" -- widely different fantasies, I'm sure, but nonetheless quite satisfying.[/QUOTE
I am sure the castle scene and that helicopter-shot ending sequence WERE intended as the finale, just in case the series did not go any further.
OK - we are now halfway into S6 and I really don't see any kind of a rift between M & L. I rewatched the latest episode last night and really concentrated on their interactions. They seem fine to me. When Louisa was urging Martin to take James to storytime it seemed like they had developed a shorthand where he knows when she is pushing him to be a better father and husband. He knows that he needs her help to learn these things ("You could learn." "Yes, I could.") The other scenes between them really had an intimacy in my opinion. Especially when she peeked her head in the door to tell him dinner was almost ready. The tone of her voice was really sweet and then she gave him a dazzling smile.
Nope, I think (relationship-wise) everything is fine in the Ellingham house. Louisa seems to have settled into work-home and Mike taking care of the baby. Martin is starting to develop problems, but it seems to me not at all related to the state of his relationship with Louisa.
I agree completely. In episode 2 I was a bit worried, but otherwise I think they're doing fine. A few hiccups, naturally, but nothing to worry about.
I also liked the way she respected his space when popping her head in to tell him dinner's ready. Also in episode 3 when she was worried about him in the last scene.
I just had a thought that maybe with the first book, they were going with the introduction of the characters, village, etc. just as they did in S1 for TV, but for the potential book audience that never has seen the show or had access to it. In essence, a start-up for a whole new audience of the printed word. And not necessarily intended for the fan base of the show (especially, us diehards! though they had to expect us to want to read them as well.) Hmmmm.......
I will be curious to see the second book's story and whether it will cover new ground or embroider some already unviewed territory in the Port Wenn time frame of the show. Just went and looked at the cover for it and LG has the Series 3 concert dress on, I believe. But that may not mean anything.....???
Yes, I figure that's what they're up to. It was essentially an outline of S1, with a few details changed. Someone (here or at FB, not sure) suggested maybe BP provided the original S1 scripts to author North and he based the book on them and that his instruction was to recap S1. Maybe originally it was written that Martin and Louisa would arrive by train, not by air, and that Louisa wasn't a Portwenn native, etc, etc, etc.
For people familiar with the show, it was just a boring rehash, missing the magic. I suppose for people unfamiliar with DM, it set the stage for whatever is to come. It does sound as if the second book will have a new plot. Hope so.
I agree completely. In episode 2 I was a bit worried, but otherwise I think they're doing fine. A few hiccups, naturally, but nothing to worry about.
I also liked the way she respected his space when popping her head in to tell him dinner's ready. Also in episode 3 when she was worried about him in the last scene.
I agree. M and L seem to have a comfortable intimacy going on, with an occasional glitch, which is to be expected with these two. Things probably will get more iffy in the next couple of episodes as we watch Martin evolve deeper into his own problems.
Some of the best tv show endings I can think of were: Mary Tyler Moore, Newhart, and MASH.
Newhart! OMG! They brilliantly stole from the ridiculous dream and unreality plots of "Dallas" and "St. Elsewhere" and had people literally screaming with laughter. I sure did. It was pure genius.
St. Elsewhere was such a high quality show. The stupid finale infuriated me.
There might be more I didn't get written down, but these did it for me:
LGE (to DM): "Mike will be here in about 15 minutes, well actually, he'll be here in exactly 15 minutes."
LGE (after looking at the video): "Good, now I won't need any breakfast."
DM (to James, about the video): "Concentrate."
(I nominate this and the wording just before it for the best written and acted delivery of the ep.)
Mr. Moisey (to DM about the nosebleed): "I must apologize for coming to the doctor's with a medical condition."
DM (re the espresso filter): "Where's the-um filter basket?"
LGE: "Filter basket, um?
DM: "Silver cup, yay big, black handle, so long."
LGE: "Over there with the carrots."
DM: "What's it doing there?"
DM: "Shiny, makes nice noise when you bang it on the table."
(It took me a while to realize this referred to James using it as a play toy. If messing with Doc's espresso equipment isn't enough to drive Doc over the edge, what will?!! (Or maybe I'm just channeling my own town's coffee culture here!)
Tattoo patient #1: "I'll have a cup of tea while I'm waiting then."
DM: "No she won't."
LGE (to DM): "I'm making a sauce with the anchovies, but I'm leaving out the anchovies."
Thanks for that, Susie. I had listened several times to Louisa's line about the sauce but never got the whole thing down.
Oh, I just "got it." Louisa probably left the anchovies out because they're so salty! :rolleyes:
Thanks, ReneeBird. I thought about the saltiness of anchovies, bringing up a memory of the glasses of water I drank after having a pizza with them on a million years ago! But that didn't turn the light bulb on for me re salt in DM. Now I get it.
I have to admit I laughed at the line as CC originally delivered it, just because of her delivery. And probably because I, too, make things and find I'm missing an ingredient and just substitute or leave out, depending.
I seem to remember someone saying something about Martin Clunes being unwell during this series. Can anyone tell me what was wrong because he looks dreadful tonight, drawn and thin in the face.
I'm not sure where this series is going. V poor tonight so far. Penhale's escapade is ridiculous.
The whole episode seems flat and I'm not too keen on the Morwenna and Al storyline. Prefer to see him with Aunt Ruth! That would put some spice back into the show!
The Doc will never 'open up' to Louisa and I'm surprised that she's surprised he's keeping his fears to himself.
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Nope, I think (relationship-wise) everything is fine in the Ellingham house. Louisa seems to have settled into work-home and Mike taking care of the baby. Martin is starting to develop problems, but it seems to me not at all related to the state of his relationship with Louisa.
It was fan fic of "twilight" and then a self published ebook.
Someone on FB remarked that Louisa seemed a good deal more confident in this series -- much more secure in her relationship with Martin. I was struck by that comment, which I think is largely true, and it parallels your post.
Just think --- we;ll know what they have in store for us in four more short weeks! (And then wait another two years.... for any resolution that might be needed:( )
I don't think they'll make us wait. I think (hope) it will be resolved in the last 2 mins of ep8. Imagine hoping for that when I'd be much happier with five minutes!
I refuse to entertain the worst case scenario. :rolleyes:
Good for you! I'm with you cookie!
I doubt it will end like "St. Elsewhere" where the entire show took place inside a snow-globe owned by an autistic child.
Rob
Wasn't that lame? At least, I thought it was. Not worthy of the whole production which was quite innovative and well-done.
Or, we could have him coming out the shower in a London hospital (like Bobby in Dallas, after his supposed death) and realizing that the preceding 6 seasons had been a bad dream!
I will grant you that anything would be better than those gimmicks!
Or in The Sopranos when Tony's family ends up a diner
I can't wait to see how Breaking Bad ends tonight. If they go with the cliche, the meth lab explodes. If they go with the lameness, the character is cured of cancer and has to go back to teaching
I just had a thought that maybe with the first book, they were going with the introduction of the characters, village, etc. just as they did in S1 for TV, but for the potential book audience that never has seen the show or had access to it. In essence, a start-up for a whole new audience of the printed word. And not necessarily intended for the fan base of the show (especially, us diehards! though they had to expect us to want to read them as well.) Hmmmm.......
I will be curious to see the second book's story and whether it will cover new ground or embroider some already unviewed territory in the Port Wenn time frame of the show. Just went and looked at the cover for it and LG has the Series 3 concert dress on, I believe. But that may not mean anything.....???
Some of the best tv show endings I can think of were: Mary Tyler Moore, Newhart, and MASH.
If BP hadn't decided to go forward with S6, I think the Castle scene would have been the perfect way to end the series.
We could all have had our own fantasies about how they lived "ever after" -- widely different fantasies, I'm sure, but nonetheless quite satisfying.
I agree completely. In episode 2 I was a bit worried, but otherwise I think they're doing fine. A few hiccups, naturally, but nothing to worry about.
I also liked the way she respected his space when popping her head in to tell him dinner's ready. Also in episode 3 when she was worried about him in the last scene.
Yes, I figure that's what they're up to. It was essentially an outline of S1, with a few details changed. Someone (here or at FB, not sure) suggested maybe BP provided the original S1 scripts to author North and he based the book on them and that his instruction was to recap S1. Maybe originally it was written that Martin and Louisa would arrive by train, not by air, and that Louisa wasn't a Portwenn native, etc, etc, etc.
For people familiar with the show, it was just a boring rehash, missing the magic. I suppose for people unfamiliar with DM, it set the stage for whatever is to come. It does sound as if the second book will have a new plot. Hope so.
I agree. M and L seem to have a comfortable intimacy going on, with an occasional glitch, which is to be expected with these two. Things probably will get more iffy in the next couple of episodes as we watch Martin evolve deeper into his own problems.
Newhart! OMG! They brilliantly stole from the ridiculous dream and unreality plots of "Dallas" and "St. Elsewhere" and had people literally screaming with laughter. I sure did. It was pure genius.
St. Elsewhere was such a high quality show. The stupid finale infuriated me.
Thanks for that, Susie. I had listened several times to Louisa's line about the sauce but never got the whole thing down.
Oh, I just "got it." Louisa probably left the anchovies out because they're so salty! :rolleyes:
EPISODE 7! We know what happens to Louisa here http://www.itv.com/presscentre/ep7week42/doc-martin
Very interesting! Thanks, NewPark. And Leanne.
Thanks, ReneeBird. I thought about the saltiness of anchovies, bringing up a memory of the glasses of water I drank after having a pizza with them on a million years ago! But that didn't turn the light bulb on for me re salt in DM. Now I get it.
I have to admit I laughed at the line as CC originally delivered it, just because of her delivery. And probably because I, too, make things and find I'm missing an ingredient and just substitute or leave out, depending.
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The whole episode seems flat and I'm not too keen on the Morwenna and Al storyline. Prefer to see him with Aunt Ruth! That would put some spice back into the show!
The Doc will never 'open up' to Louisa and I'm surprised that she's surprised he's keeping his fears to himself.