It's ridiculous that it was never like this from day one - or at the very least, the same per minute rate as a landline call, and not something often not inclusive in minutes. Especially for contract customers who already pay line rental.
Been free on giffgaff for years now...Those charging have been ripping everyone off with 0800 numbers.
Orange and one2one started with 0800 being free back in 1994 and 1993 respectively. They were forced to change by the other two (Vodafone and Cellnet) and some complaint to Oftel (precursor to Ofcom) back in around 1999.
Its taken Ofcom this long to sort out the mess :-/
Orange and one2one started with 0800 being free back in 1994 and 1993 respectively. They were forced to change by the other two (Vodafone and Cellnet) and some complaint to Oftel (precursor to Ofcom) back in around 1999.
Its taken Ofcom this long to sort out the mess :-/
Yes, joined Orange in 1996 with Nokia 2140 (Nokia Orange) and remember well that 0800 were free. Was a pretty cool Orange feature at the time. Shame it all went **** up!
They were Mercury communications freecall competitor to BT's freephone. Similarly we had 0345 and 0545 but 0545 went a long time ago. Mercury being C&W residential brand that launched one2one.
Orange and one2one started with 0800 being free back in 1994 and 1993 respectively. They were forced to change by the other two (Vodafone and Cellnet) and some complaint to Oftel (precursor to Ofcom) back in around 1999.
Its taken Ofcom this long to sort out the mess :-/
It wasn't Cellnet and Vodafone that forced them to change (that would be anti-competitive).
It was due to the proliferation of calling card services that allowed cheap calls via 0800. They used to block identified numbers but the providers simply changed the number and the cycle continued. Until the networks gave up and just made all 0800's chargeable, I also think it was a case of "If Voda/Cellnet can do it and earn a few bob, why not us?"
i got charged a fair few quid calling an 0800 number last year. i presumed it would come out of my minutes. so got a bit charge and ironically had hardly touched my normal minutes
i presume if it's ofcom then it applies to all companies? i'm on virgin as i get a good deal. i usually use say no to 0870 for alternate numbers or dial banks via the "international" number on the card
i got charged a fair few quid calling an 0800 number last year. i presumed it would come out of my minutes. so got a bit charge and ironically had hardly touched my normal minutes
i presume if it's ofcom then it applies to all companies? i'm on virgin as i get a good deal. i usually use say no to 0870 for alternate numbers or dial banks via the "international" number on the card
I always do the same.
But I find there are a lot more 0844, 0845 and 0870 numbers I have to find alternative numbers to than 0800 and 0808 numbers.
Will the number of inclusive minutes for making calls to landline numbers that are non 08 or 0500 numbers stay the same from July?
But I find there are a lot more 0844, 0845 and 0870 numbers I have to find alternative numbers to than 0800 and 0808 numbers.
The number of 084x numbers have diminished over the last year since most customer service use of them was banned, it's always worth trying any 0845 xxxxxx number as 0345 xxxxxxxx, many companies have bought the same 0345 number but still publicise the 0845 if they are allowed to.
It wasn't Cellnet and Vodafone that forced them to change (that would be anti-competitive).
I thought they raised the complaint that got Oftel looking into it, at the same time as lots of people were essentially taking the proverbial using 0800 based calling cards to reduce the cost of calls. I used an 0800 ISP over a Nokia cellular data PCMCIA modem for about 6 months. The ISP charged me at 2p/min on my credit card. Was cheaper than any data service Orange offered.
It was due to the proliferation of calling card services that allowed cheap calls via 0800. They used to block identified numbers but the providers simply changed the number and the cycle continued. Until the networks gave up and just made all 0800's chargeable, I also think it was a case of "If Voda/Cellnet can do it and earn a few bob, why not us?"
I remember the volume of numbers being discussed on the (long since gone) Orange mailing list.
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0800 Buster also works till Vodafone graciously give you that option thanks to Ofcom.
Some people on new EE price plans (ie, my SIM only upgrade in Sept) also have free 0800 already.
As do the EE Extra plans from Aug 2014...
Good news that more people are getting 0800 numbers included.
Orange and one2one started with 0800 being free back in 1994 and 1993 respectively. They were forced to change by the other two (Vodafone and Cellnet) and some complaint to Oftel (precursor to Ofcom) back in around 1999.
Its taken Ofcom this long to sort out the mess :-/
0500 numbers will still be chargeable though.
Yes, joined Orange in 1996 with Nokia 2140 (Nokia Orange) and remember well that 0800 were free. Was a pretty cool Orange feature at the time. Shame it all went **** up!
They were Mercury communications freecall competitor to BT's freephone. Similarly we had 0345 and 0545 but 0545 went a long time ago. Mercury being C&W residential brand that launched one2one.
No issue as they're hardly used and die in 2017 if I'm reading this right.
http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/re-consultation-0500-freephone/statement
It wasn't Cellnet and Vodafone that forced them to change (that would be anti-competitive).
It was due to the proliferation of calling card services that allowed cheap calls via 0800. They used to block identified numbers but the providers simply changed the number and the cycle continued. Until the networks gave up and just made all 0800's chargeable, I also think it was a case of "If Voda/Cellnet can do it and earn a few bob, why not us?"
i presume if it's ofcom then it applies to all companies? i'm on virgin as i get a good deal. i usually use say no to 0870 for alternate numbers or dial banks via the "international" number on the card
08, or 0800 ? There's a major difference ?
080 numbers.
I always do the same.
But I find there are a lot more 0844, 0845 and 0870 numbers I have to find alternative numbers to than 0800 and 0808 numbers.
Will the number of inclusive minutes for making calls to landline numbers that are non 08 or 0500 numbers stay the same from July?
The number of 084x numbers have diminished over the last year since most customer service use of them was banned, it's always worth trying any 0845 xxxxxx number as 0345 xxxxxxxx, many companies have bought the same 0345 number but still publicise the 0845 if they are allowed to.
I thought they raised the complaint that got Oftel looking into it, at the same time as lots of people were essentially taking the proverbial using 0800 based calling cards to reduce the cost of calls. I used an 0800 ISP over a Nokia cellular data PCMCIA modem for about 6 months. The ISP charged me at 2p/min on my credit card. Was cheaper than any data service Orange offered.
I remember the volume of numbers being discussed on the (long since gone) Orange mailing list.