Elderly traffic signs are insulting and derogatory?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2836533/Ban-elderly-traffic-warning-sign-leads-discrimination-against-50s-says-government-tsar.html
I did a search for this but couldnt find any threads on it.
I read about it the other day but heard a debate on the Jeremy Vine show today too.
I had personally always regarded the signs to indicate that there may be people nearby or in sheltered/care homes who had limited mobility, rather than being elderly per se.
I did a search for this but couldnt find any threads on it.
I read about it the other day but heard a debate on the Jeremy Vine show today too.
I had personally always regarded the signs to indicate that there may be people nearby or in sheltered/care homes who had limited mobility, rather than being elderly per se.
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The 'roadworks' sign looks like a man opening a large parasol.
But the government's tsar for the elderly says the road sign should be banned because they convey a message that older people are 'frail and disabled' and discourage employers from hiring someone over 50.
Since when has 50 been 'elderly'?
http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_street_p/0_street_views_-_portobello_road_looking_e_elderly_people_zoom_in_082296.jpg
But they're nearly always captioned 'Elderly' underneath.
The sign itself to me does not mean everyone over 50 at all the picture clearly shows elderly as opposed to middle aged and as an employer I do not get where she thinks a road sign would put an employer off hiring someone older but to be honest how many people of the age that is really clearly depicted on the sign stooped over with a stick are out looking for a job.
I do not see how the signs are any different to ones that show kids are crossing or animals , Dr Altmann needs to learn the difference between older and elderly.
If she gets her way though and they are taken down all it will take is for one OAP to get knocked down where the sign used to be and she/the government could be facing a lot of problems.
They havent been for 10 years!
There are some near care homes for people with learning needs near where we are.
Thats a really good point about the children and animals,some woman on the radio phone in was really angry about them and felt no other group was depicted in this way. Just as I was listening to this, I was driving past a school with some rather skittish looking children on a sign, looking like they are running (into the road). But of course not all children are unaware of roads, or would run into them, but we accept that their age makes them more likely to have poor awareness, impulse control, poor concentration (or short term concentration), too busy gaggling with their mates. So yes, for general signs, we do have to make assumptions about how groups act.
it's a sign warning drivers
more god damn stupidity from morons
why not just put her picture up instead ..... drive away wild life that face would do!
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the REAL REASON is that EVERYONE WHO IS STILL ALIVE must work or else they'll be run over
stupid bitch
I'd say it is much more likely that this so-called "business champion for older workers" is so short of realistic proposals that she's reduced to idiocies like this. Not employing her would be a much better idea.
19 August 2008: Beware, elderly people getting crosser: OAPs demand revamp of insulting crossing sign
18 December 2003: 'Offensive' road signs insult elderly and disabled
I reckon we should have this one put up outside her offices
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What planet is this woman living on? Does she seriously think that there are employers up and down the country who have looked at these roads signs and though, "ah, clearly everybody over 50 must be frail and disabled. I won't be hiring them anymore". "Hmm this applicant, looks perfectly able bodied and healthy in my eyes and has all the right qualifications too. But oh dear, he says he is 51, he must surely be frail and disabled like the sign said so. I can't hire him."
Why are you so angry towards the person who proposed this, to the point of calling them a 'bitch'?
I mean seriously, if this sort of thing winds you up this much you should probably go into a darkened room and just stay there, or your tiny head might explode.
I wonder if the person suggesting they be removed is an elderly person with mobility issues? They are the people this question should really be posed to. Far too often issues about the elderly are only debated by the young.
Powered wheelchairs and scooters MUST NOT travel faster than 4 mph (6 km/h) on pavements or in pedestrian areas. You may need to reduce your speed to adjust to other pavement users who may not be able to move out of your way quickly enough or where the pavement is too narrow.
Law UICHR 1988 reg 4
8 mph on the pavement is more the norm round these parts. I've actually seen a very elderly flat capped OAP accidentally perform the skiing stunt (where the mobility scooter is driven while balanced only on two wheels), round a high street pavement corner.
Okay then, how about we replace it with something more up-to-date? Here's a couple of suggestions....
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