Eastern European farm workers - Tax
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Obviously we have open borders, and these low skilled workers are coming in to plug gaps in the manual labour market, which they should be applauded for.
However, around here, each farm seems to have 8-10 caravans which the farmer 'lets' to the foreigners for a certain amount of their wage.
How are the taxes for this worked out? Both their wage, and the farmers 'income' from the letting a. Are they excluded because they are caravans?
Any farmers or families of here?
However, around here, each farm seems to have 8-10 caravans which the farmer 'lets' to the foreigners for a certain amount of their wage.
How are the taxes for this worked out? Both their wage, and the farmers 'income' from the letting a. Are they excluded because they are caravans?
Any farmers or families of here?
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Unlikely, the farmer would end up paying out thousands in fines if they were not paid the minimum wage and put through the books, the other option for the workers is to register as self employed in which case they would pay their own tax.
Surely not?!?! If so, they must all have to submit tax returns at the end of the year?
They must be paying tax, the open borders is supposed to benefit us.
https://www.gov.uk/agricultural-workers-rights
http://gla.defra.gov.uk/
Based on the minimum wage the workers would pay very little tax anyway, if self employed even less or maybe nothing.
But I could be totally off the mark.
That's not allowed though, they may be charged £4.82 per day for accomadation, as long as doing so does not bring their recieved pay below minimum wage, which is £6.22 per hour if employed for 26 weeks or less per year (which you can bet none of them will be, to prevent having to pay them £6.88 an hour)
From tomorrow, full time at minimum wage should attract taxation at around £800 per annum.
However even if you pay more than the minimum wage and the employee rents accommdoation in a separate deal from you when you get a NMW inspection they will look at what money they have left after rent and tell you you cannot do that as when they pay you the rent if they then have less left to them than £6.19 per hour after they pay their rent it means they have earned less than the minimum wage via your employ even though it may hav ebeen the persons choice to rent from you , silly really as if they rented from another landlord and pay rent and ended up with the same money that does not count as they are not their employer.
I don't usually go in for pedantry, but your premise above is a little flawed. Foreign workers are not 'plugging the gaps' - they are doing jobs which our indigenous unemployed won't do for a variety of reasons.
Don't think that is right. Any deduction for accommodation would be taken from wages after tax and NIC has been deducted, not gross wages.
Off topic, but any proof of that claim?
My daughter did a season fruit picking, staying on a migrant labour camp in Kent, and was the only Uk citizen in the whole camp. She only had to apply, not do an interview or any tests, so any Brits could have done the same. The fact that they didn't suggests that none of them wanted to.
Maybe more Brits applied, but weren't chosen?
Surely, not everyone that applied got through? What if there were 100 placements and 1000 applied?
Er............only our vast pool of unemployed / flexible labour market (depending on your outlook.) who're at home, and not doing the jobs that others from overseas have come to do. I'm thinking specifically about the types of jobs outlined above - service industries which are traditionally run by either outright crooks or less than benevolent employers.
Try again. All that proves is that employers have chosen to employ a foreign person, it does not show that British people have not applied or been interviewed for those positions.
Where were these jobs advertised? In what language? What happens to a long-term unemployed person who takes a short-tem minimum-wage job? At the end do they go back on the dole on worse conditions than before though loss of historic benefits?
Surely that depends on how many hours they are working?
True, based on a normal 38 hour week they would pay around 800 pounds a year from today according to another poster which is not a lot though there would be N.I on top of that.