dissident ira havent gone away with a major bombing campaign dismantled by uk intel in the last few weeks. surprised youre not aware of this .. and it almost being on your doorstep.
alqaeda didnt declare war against the world nor was their ambition to extend beyond the old muslim empire within the mid east. oh why are people so poorly informed. alqaeda wanted usa outbof 'its' lands especially saudi and wanted to remove the dictators who were given support by usa. this is why they were a threat.
the issue is to ask how the hostage taker got to the mental state he is in rather than listing his alleged crimes.
lee rigbys killers were known to uk intel, in fact they wanted to recruit them. and when they didnt join, they and their families were harassed which possibly led in part to the mindset that resulted in the cruel murder.
Not another muslim jihadist apologist at the wind up. Like misawa97 all over again.
dissident ira havent gone away with a major bombing campaign dismantled by uk intel in the last few weeks. surprised youre not aware of this .. and it almost being on your doorstep.
alqaeda didnt declare war against the world nor was their ambition to extend beyond the old muslim empire within the mid east. oh why are people so poorly informed. alqaeda wanted usa outbof 'its' lands especially saudi and wanted to remove the dictators who were given support by usa. this is why they were a threat.
the issue is to ask how the hostage taker got to the mental state he is in rather than listing his alleged crimes.
lee rigbys killers were known to uk intel, in fact they wanted to recruit them. and when they didnt join, they and their families were harassed which possibly led in part to the mindset that resulted in the cruel murder.
Of course it's never the fault of the nutters and their interpretation of Islam
I'd say he was a pure evil manipulator, opportunist, and radical Islamist, who also has mental health issues.
No, he doesn't look like someone with mental health issues, because his behaviour is calculated, and he had been spreading hatred in Australia systematically for years. This whole thing seems to be carefully planned and calculated maybe months in advance if not years.
Well we're going to have to differ on the first point, but you're welcome anyway.
Secondly, yes it is incredibly simplistic to distill the vast majority of the strife today and the terrorism it inspires down to Religion.
Thirdly - you're not interested in the motivations of the groups and individuals which form a "clear and present danger"? Well that's incredibly short sighted and one of the large reasons why there is so much strife in the world. Hell even somebody in 600 BC China realised the importance of knowing your enemy. Oh well.
It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.
As for excuses? Yes, Religon is largely used as an excuse, where are the real drivers behind the strife in the world today, stem from more prosiac reasons. Such as percieved injustices & oppression. Neglect and remain ignorant of your opponents motivations at your peril BlueBlade, at your peril... Clearly it is much better to simply distill it down to religion and refuse to sit next to that brown person on the bus.
By the way - which ethnic group do you "trust" as a "collective"?
Well we're going to have to differ on the first point, but you're welcome anyway.
Secondly, yes it is incredibly simplistic to distill the vast majority of the strife today and the terrorism it inspires down to Religion.
Thirdly - you're not interested in the motivations of the groups and individuals which form a "clear and present danger"? Well that's incredibly short sighted and one of the large reasons why there is so much strife in the world. Hell even somebody in 600 BC China realised the importance of knowing your enemy. Oh well.
It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.
As for excuses? Yes, Religon is largely used as an excuse, where are the real drivers behind the strife in the world today, stem from more prosiac reasons. Such as percieved injustices & oppression. Neglect and remain ignorant of your opponents motivations at your peril BlueBlade, at your peril... Clearly it is much better to simply distill it down to religion and refuse to sit next to that brown person on the bus.
By the way - which ethnic group do you "trust" as a "collective"?
The problem being that these apparently oppressed and hard done by terrorists, take out their frustrations on innocent civilians.
They are and remain my prime concern. When the murdering of innocents stops, then maybe that will be the right time to investigate the underlying causes. At present they can stick their excuses and reasons up their arses. Not interested.
No, he doesn't look like someone with mental health issues, because his behaviour is calculated, and he had been spreading hatred in Australia systematically for years. This whole thing seems to be carefully planned and calculated maybe months in advance if not years.
Psychopath then. Either way, the guy isn't wired up right.
If he has 4 bombs planted in different streets and is working with others then maybe taking him down with a snipers bullet is not a good idea after all, Its hard to see how this is going to end well though.
If he has 4 bombs planted in different streets and is working with others then maybe taking him down with a snipers bullet is not a good idea after all, Its hard to see how this is going to end well though.
I don't think it will end well, but I bet it will end soon.
And the miners (Nigeria?) where the terrorists carefully sorted Muslim from non Muslim and murdered the non Muslims. Even Alan Henning was separated from Muslim companions and slaughtered, the only one to die.
The mosque attack in Kano - Nigeria a few weeks ago they didn't seem to care about not harming Muslims then did they ?
The problem being that these apparently oppressed and hard done by terrorists, take out their frustrations on innocent civilians.
They are and remain my prime concern. When the murdering of innocents stops, then maybe that will be the right time to investigate the underlying causes. At present they can stick their excuses and reasons up their arses. Not interested.
It is short sighted and foolish to ignore the motivations and concerns of the people you fight. Such a standpoint that you proclaim - hasn't exactly helped things much has it? Did such a standpoint work in Iraq or Afghanistan? Not really. As being your prime concern - how can you hope to combat an enemy that you know nothing about? How do you hope to prevent people from being radicalised in relatively liberal countries? How do you prevent extremists from turning the people that were recently liberated into a neutral at best, or hostile at worst party in a conflict?
Which "collective" of people do you "trust" again?
dissident ira havent gone away with a major bombing campaign dismantled by uk intel in the last few weeks. surprised youre not aware of this .. and it almost being on your doorstep.
alqaeda didnt declare war against the world nor was their ambition to extend beyond the old muslim empire within the mid east. oh why are people so poorly informed. alqaeda wanted usa outbof 'its' lands especially saudi and wanted to remove the dictators who were given support by usa. this is why they were a threat.
the issue is to ask how the hostage taker got to the mental state he is in rather than listing his alleged crimes.
lee rigbys killers were known to uk intel, in fact they wanted to recruit them. and when they didnt join, they and their families were harassed which possibly led in part to the mindset that resulted in the cruel murder.
Hmm, where to begin? You're ok with people taking such action as 9/11 to get people from other countries out of their lands? Is that generally, I.e. Would you be ok with the UK or US taking that action because people from other countries were in their lands? No? Thought not.
Bringing the IRA into it is irrelevant. They were terrorists but political and didn't do anything in the name of a religion. The Israelis murdered and Palestinians killed. Even your language gives a lot away.
This is an Iranian who claimed asylum in Australia and now condemns Australia because it's a "western" country. (In quotes before "no it's in the eastern hemisphere" or similar). Why would he choose to go to Australia to get away from a country he doesn't like if he doesn't like Australia either?
It seems rare on here for people to blame the one with the bomb or the gun but instead it's the evil west who are to blame.
I don't understand why the Australian Government has allowed this lunatic to spread his hateful gospel for so long without sectioning him or something?
Hmm, where to begin? You're ok with people taking such action as 9/11 to get people from other countries out of their lands? Is that generally, I.e. Would you be ok with the UK or US taking that action because people from other countries were in their lands? No? Thought not.
Bringing the IRA into it is irrelevant. They were terrorists but political and didn't do anything in the name of a religion. The Israelis murdered and Palestinians killed. Even your language gives a lot away.
This is an Iranian who claimed asylum in Australia and now condemns Australia because it's a "western" country. (In quotes before "no it's in the eastern hemisphere" or similar). Why would he choose to go to Australia to get away from a country he doesn't like if he doesn't like Australia either?
It seems rare on here for people to blame the one with the bomb or the gun but instead it's the evil west who are to blame.
No one should feel sorry for muslim terrorists or any terrorists.
Terrorists are just evil psycho .That only want to have their way.
It is short sighted and foolish to ignore the motivations and concerns of the people you fight. Such a standpoint that you proclaim - hasn't exactly helped things much has it? Did such a standpoint work in Iraq or Afghanistan? Not really. As being your prime concern - how can you hope to combat an enemy that you know nothing about? How do you hope to prevent people from being radicalised in relatively liberal countries? How do you prevent extremists from turning the people that were recently liberated into a neutral at best, or hostile at worst party in a conflict?
Which "collective" of people do you "trust" again?
So what do you suggest, sitting down and talking quietly with them as they continue to kill innocent civilians - ask them what they want in exchange for stopping the slaughter ?
We certainly can't appeal to any possible vestiges of compassion they might have, as the families of Alan Henning et al, have shown.
It might be your way, but it sounds weak and submissive to me.
If he has 4 bombs planted in different streets and is working with others then maybe taking him down with a snipers bullet is not a good idea after all, Its hard to see how this is going to end well though.
My point is this. Psychopaths are those who kill people because they like it. They act upon instincts, and would do anything to satisfy their psychopathic urges. They are unpredictable and dangerous.
This man is not a psychopath. He is using this whole situation in order to make a political point and promote his radical ideas. All this was planned, calculated and he is having things under control so far. So far, he has not shown any sign of being unstable or crazy.
When it comes to terrorism, we should know how to distinguish terrorists from people with mental illness and other criminals, because terrorists are sane, smart and calculated and that's not how crazy people would behave whatsoever.
Apparently the guys former lawyer says he's an "isolated individual acting alone" surely this is the most important question right now, does he have accomplices elsewhere or not?
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Not another muslim jihadist apologist at the wind up. Like misawa97 all over again.
Of course it's never the fault of the nutters and their interpretation of Islam
No, he doesn't look like someone with mental health issues, because his behaviour is calculated, and he had been spreading hatred in Australia systematically for years. This whole thing seems to be carefully planned and calculated maybe months in advance if not years.
well stated.
The problem being that these apparently oppressed and hard done by terrorists, take out their frustrations on innocent civilians.
They are and remain my prime concern. When the murdering of innocents stops, then maybe that will be the right time to investigate the underlying causes. At present they can stick their excuses and reasons up their arses. Not interested.
Psychopath then. Either way, the guy isn't wired up right.
Was Jimmy Saville a psychopath?
I don't think it will end well, but I bet it will end soon.
their interpretation is part of the issue but its not the primary issue.
radicalisation/motivation is for the most part political/social grievance. this is what needs to be addressed.
a misreading of koran facilitates , but it is not necessary as robert papes academic research clearly shows , religion hardly has a role.
it is this lack of recognition that islam is not the issue that denies us a resolution.
Very possibly. What's your point ?
It is short sighted and foolish to ignore the motivations and concerns of the people you fight. Such a standpoint that you proclaim - hasn't exactly helped things much has it? Did such a standpoint work in Iraq or Afghanistan? Not really. As being your prime concern - how can you hope to combat an enemy that you know nothing about? How do you hope to prevent people from being radicalised in relatively liberal countries? How do you prevent extremists from turning the people that were recently liberated into a neutral at best, or hostile at worst party in a conflict?
Which "collective" of people do you "trust" again?
Hmm, where to begin? You're ok with people taking such action as 9/11 to get people from other countries out of their lands? Is that generally, I.e. Would you be ok with the UK or US taking that action because people from other countries were in their lands? No? Thought not.
Bringing the IRA into it is irrelevant. They were terrorists but political and didn't do anything in the name of a religion. The Israelis murdered and Palestinians killed. Even your language gives a lot away.
This is an Iranian who claimed asylum in Australia and now condemns Australia because it's a "western" country. (In quotes before "no it's in the eastern hemisphere" or similar). Why would he choose to go to Australia to get away from a country he doesn't like if he doesn't like Australia either?
It seems rare on here for people to blame the one with the bomb or the gun but instead it's the evil west who are to blame.
And now it comes to this.
Does anyone know why he fled from Iran?
Terrorists are just evil psycho .That only want to have their way.
So what do you suggest, sitting down and talking quietly with them as they continue to kill innocent civilians - ask them what they want in exchange for stopping the slaughter ?
We certainly can't appeal to any possible vestiges of compassion they might have, as the families of Alan Henning et al, have shown.
It might be your way, but it sounds weak and submissive to me.
he can't stay awake forever.
No, but this is how he repays the Australians for taking him in. Bastard.
My point is this. Psychopaths are those who kill people because they like it. They act upon instincts, and would do anything to satisfy their psychopathic urges. They are unpredictable and dangerous.
This man is not a psychopath. He is using this whole situation in order to make a political point and promote his radical ideas. All this was planned, calculated and he is having things under control so far. So far, he has not shown any sign of being unstable or crazy.
When it comes to terrorism, we should know how to distinguish terrorists from people with mental illness and other criminals, because terrorists are sane, smart and calculated and that's not how crazy people would behave whatsoever.