Spoilers & Information Beginning to Come In (Part 2)

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  • JCRJCR Posts: 24,057
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    C. Samurai wrote: »
    The 12th Doctor's audition scripts are to be published in the latest issue of Doctor Who Magazine. Subscribers get their copies today so we should see them uploaded soon.

    They're described as "fairly generic Doctor stuff" by Moffat, "designed more as obstacle courses than proper scenes", "these scenes will never appear in the show", "nothing to learn here" etc etc.

    I'm not typing it out because there's a full A4 page, but most of it is similar to the fish custard scenes with little Amy. "Never had that before - interesting kidneys", complaining about Clara's smell (perfume) etc etc etc.
  • C. SamuraiC. Samurai Posts: 362
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    Even though they won't be used, I can see bits of them popping up in the show. The whole "I don't beleive in ghosts" line from The Snowmen was from Jenna's audition peice, which in turn seemed to be an influence on Hide
  • AirboraeAirborae Posts: 2,647
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    Just read that David Spenser (Thomni - The Abominable Snowmen) - has died aged 79 in Spain. His partner was Victor Pemberton.

    I think I speak for us all in wishing Victor much sympathy.
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    Airborae wrote: »
    Just read that David Spenser (Thomni - The Abominable Snowmen) - has died aged 79 in Spain. His partner was Victor Pemberton.

    I think I speak for us all in wishing Victor much sympathy.

    As sad as that is, Spoilers and information?
  • C. SamuraiC. Samurai Posts: 362
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    Here's the 12th Doctor audition samples
    1. INT. TARDIS
    The new Doctor is checking out the new body. Clara, watching. It’s been a few minutes, they’re both still adjusting.

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    THE DOCTOR: Right then, eyesight. Not bad, bit blue. Ears – not pointy, right way up, more or less level. Face – well I’ve got one. Oh, no -French!
    CLARA: French.
    THE DOCTOR: I’ve deleted French! Plus all cookery skills, and the breast stroke. And hopping. Never mind hopping, who needs to hop. Ohh, the kidneys are interesting. Never had that before – interesting kidneys.
    CLARA: Are you all right?
    THE DOCTOR: I don’t know, do I look all right?
    CLARA: I don’t know.
    THE DOCTOR: How’s the face? Seems all right from the inside. Nice action, responsive. Bit less heft on the chin. How is it?
    CLARA: It’s… okay.
    THE DOCTOR: Okay?
    CLARA: It’s a bit… you know.
    THE DOCTOR: No I don’t, I haven’t seen it yet.
    CLARA: Maybe it’s just new.
    THE DOCTOR: Have you changed height?
    CLARA: No.

    2. INT. SPACE SHIP BRIDGE
    The Doctor is facing down the Cyberleader, who stares balefully down from the screen. The bridge around the Doctor is burning, ruined.

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    THE DOCTOR: Ah, Cyberleader, hello!
    CYBERLEADER: Do you have a response, Doctor.
    THE DOCTOR: Yes, I do. Definitely got a response. And here it is. Yes, your ears look big in that! Sorry, did I misunderstand the question?
    CYBERLEADER: You will return the stolen cargo.
    THE DOCTOR: Yeah, well, two points. One, I didn’t steal it. No, actually, I did steal it, I was just hoping if I said that I’d think of a really good excuse before the end of the sentence. Didn’t happen, never mind. Point two – well, point one, second attempt – that isn’t cargo. Those are human beings.
    CYBERLEADER: They are primed for conversion.
    THE DOCTOR: I’ve unprimed them.
    CYBERLEADER: You will return the cargo.
    THE DOCTOR: No, I won’t.
    CYBERLEADER: Then the cargo will be taken.
    THE DOCTOR: Not going to happen, and do you know what’s going to stop you?
    CYBERLEADER: We will not be stopped. The Doctor raises a finger.
    THE DOCTOR: Tell it to the finger. See this finger? See what I’m doing with this finger right now. The Doctor moves to the screen. Starts drawing a line across.
    THE DOCTOR: I’m drawing a line between this ship and you. Between all these people and all your metal men. And this line, it’s a magic line
    CYBERLEADER: Magic is not logical
    THE DOCTOR: I know – isn’t it great? Because I’ll tell you what. All these people on this ship are now, officially, under the protection of the magic line. Now, I’ll be honest, these guys in here are a bit annoying. They keep having their own opinions, and sometimes they take turns talking instead of me, which is just boring for everyone. But facts are facts, they’re behind the magic line, and that’s the way it is now. And to be clear, so we all understand the deal here, if any of your handle-heads happens to cross the magic line, even by accident, do you know what will happen to you then?
    CYBERLEADER: What will happen?
    THE DOCTOR: Me

    3. The Doctor and a little boy. They’re sitting in the little boy’s bedroom.

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    THE DOCTOR:
    Does everyone tell you it’s going to be all right?
    LITTLE BOY: Yes.
    THE DOCTOR: Do you believe them?
    LITTLE BOY: No
    THE DOCTOR: Good man. Tell me what happens when the lights go out.
    LITTLE BOY: No.
    THE DOCTOR: Because you’re scared? (Silence) Because you think I won’t believe you. Because you think I’ll tell you everything’s fine, when you know it isn’t, and leave you alone like all the other grown-ups?
    LITTLE BOY:… yes.
    THE DOCTOR: Look at me. Am I grown up?
    LITTLE BOY: Yes.
    THE DOCTOR: Good! You’re the very first person I’ve fooled. Look, what if I promise I won’t tell you it’s okay. What if I just listen, and then try my best to help, and never tell you that I know better. How about that?
    LITTLE BOY: …okay.
    THE DOCTOR: Okay. So. You turn the lights out -then what?
    LITTLE BOY: The room… changes. In the dark.
    THE DOCTOR: You mean the room is different when you can’t see it.
    LITTLE BOY: Yes.
    THE DOCTOR: Every time?
    LITTLE BOY: Yes.
    THE DOCTOR: Different how?
    LITTLE BOY: It’s wet. When 1 touch the walls, they’re all wet.
    THE DOCTOR: Like damp. Like water running
    down them?
    LITTLE BOY: No. Wet like a mouth.
  • AbominationAbomination Posts: 6,483
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    For crying out loud, the news about David Spenser (btw, RIP :( ) might have been slightly misplaced but the people complaining about that have now made it take up twice as much space on the page. :o

    On the subject of the scripts, am I the only one who can't help but read them in Eleven's whimsical way :p
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    For crying out loud, the news about David Spenser (btw, RIP :( ) might have been slightly misplaced but the people complaining about that have now made it take up twice as much space on the page. :o

    On the subject of the scripts, am I the only one who can't help but read them in Eleven's whimsical way :p

    And you have just taken up even more on it.

    It wasn't a complaint about space on the thread (are we rationed?!), it was about moving it so people didn't miss it.
  • sandydunesandydune Posts: 10,986
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    On the subject of the scripts, am I the only one who can't help but read them in Eleven's whimsical way :p

    I think it's more about the mannerisms.:D
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 357
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    sandydune wrote: »
    I think it's more about the mannerisms.:D

    Me too, I just imagined 11 saying them all,
    Ugh made it too real for me.
  • Dr2PatDr2Pat Posts: 420
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    Spoilers on Christmas Special:
  • AirboraeAirborae Posts: 2,647
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    Dr2Pat wrote: »
    Spoilers on Christmas Special:

    Well, as long as it's better than The Doctor, The Widow & The Wardrobe. :)
  • Granny McSmithGranny McSmith Posts: 19,622
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    Airborae wrote: »
    Well, as long as it's better than The Doctor, The Widow & The Wardrobe. :)

    Not difficult to achieve. :D
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,152
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    A shot from the 50th trailer: https://twitter.com/Smalledd/status/359447213996392448/photo/1

    If that's the way Hurt enters, it's going to be pretty epic.

    EDIT: Although Doctor Who TV is saying that's fake apparently!
  • be more pacificbe more pacific Posts: 19,061
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    From what tiny little I know about Hurt's Doctor, I'm even more furious that Chris Eccleston has an ego that means he says no to Doctor Who while saying yes to serious dramatic work like GI frickin' Joe and Thor 2

    Hurt's role is nothing but 9 remade with a bit of timey wimey-ness to cover the fact Chris won't do it.

    My opinion of him is dropping a bit.
    How do you know any of that? Your personal dislike of Christopher Eccleston is pretty clear from those massive assumptions.

    Chris is obviously a busy actor, so it's quite possible that he simply wasn't available for the special. Shooting for Hollywood movies is planned much further in advance than TV episodes.

    Also, John Hurt is hardly the sort of actor who you get as a last-minute replacement. There's every chance that his Doctor was always part of the script.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,003
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    Dr2Pat wrote: »
    Spoilers on Christmas Special:

    I think they misunderstood Matt on that one a bit:
    He doesn't really say that River is going to be in the Christmas special in that interview. He is just talking about how he likes the complicated stuff in Moffat's Who and he says: " Is it complicated? Yes. Are we going back in time? Yes. Are we going forward in time? Yes. Are we meeting a character we’ve met in the future? Yes. Is she my wife? Yes.” Which really has nothing to do with Christmas really, he's talking about the past series' when the Doctor met River for the first time and when they got married later.
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    I think they misunderstood Matt on that one a bit:
    He doesn't really say that River is going to be in the Christmas special in that interview. He is just talking about how he likes the complicated stuff in Moffat's Who and he says: " Is it complicated? Yes. Are we going back in time? Yes. Are we going forward in time? Yes. Are we meeting a character we’ve met in the future? Yes. Is she my wife? Yes.” Which really has nothing to do with Christmas really, he's talking about the past series' when the Doctor met River for the first time and when they got married later.

    I agree. It's a bit ambiguous maybe, but I think they've got the wrong end of the stick.
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    Fire Host wrote: »
    I agree. It's a bit ambiguous maybe, but I think they've got the wrong end of the stick.

    I'm going to day dream that she will return
  • saladfingers81saladfingers81 Posts: 11,301
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    I think they misunderstood Matt on that one a bit:
    He doesn't really say that River is going to be in the Christmas special in that interview. He is just talking about how he likes the complicated stuff in Moffat's Who and he says: " Is it complicated? Yes. Are we going back in time? Yes. Are we going forward in time? Yes. Are we meeting a character we’ve met in the future? Yes. Is she my wife? Yes.” Which really has nothing to do with Christmas really, he's talking about the past series' when the Doctor met River for the first time and when they got married later.

    Agreed. I think it was an example. Not that it means River won't appear in his farewell. I expect she will. As will the Ponds if only in flashback or voiceover.
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    Agreed. I think it was an example. Not that it means River won't appear in his farewell. I expect she will. As will the Ponds if only in flashback or voiceover.

    I dunno about River. I mean would Moffat really bring her back so fast after the farewall scene in TNOTD? I know it's perfectly possible for her to come back despite that, but I feel it would ruin that moment a bit for me if she's back for 11's regeneration already.

    As for the Ponds, I guess they will be involved in one way or another, but I hope it's either a flashback as you mention or that they're acknowledged in some way - maybe have Brian return? Or maybe their adopted son Anthony (is he even canon?) meet the Doctor?
  • AirboraeAirborae Posts: 2,647
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    If Doctor 11 does go back to Trenzalore for the last time, then Silence Will Fall. For the Doctor's 11th body. And then a new Doctor will appear.

    At least this is how it's looking at the moment...
  • sandydunesandydune Posts: 10,986
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    Airborae wrote: »
    If Doctor 11 does go back to Trenzalore for the last time, then Silence Will Fall. For the Doctor's 11th body. And then a new Doctor will appear.

    At least this is how it's looking at the moment...
    If The Doctor goes back to Trenzalore, will it be different, for example, will it look different as to what it was before?:confused:
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  • AbominationAbomination Posts: 6,483
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    CD93 wrote: »

    Even with the low quality my excitement just shot through the roof :D
  • AirboraeAirborae Posts: 2,647
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    Wow! That gigantic moth I've just done battle has gone from my memory thanks to the trailer!
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