Ok, I've been tempted to put this to you for a few days now. You are clearly very keen on socialism and believe it is a better structure than capitalism.
Do you therefore believe that the Chinese political structure is a better one than the Japanese system?
Do you also believe that the North Korean political structure is a better one than the South Korean system?
Yes? Or No?
Japan does not have a Capitalist system, it has elements but not the complete requirements. Same goes for South Korea. China isn't socialist or communist and neither is North Korea, again some elements are there but not the whole.
Capitalism and the Free Market are as impossible achievement as Communism. But then expecting people to read the political and economic theory they espouse is rather silly.
Try actually spending time in a 3rd world country, then come back and try and write that post without sounding like a massive pillock.
We're in the middle of a pretty catastrophic global recession and compared to 95% of the world's nations we have it pretty good.
We are absolutely nowhere near being either a dictatorship, or a 3rd world country. To say so is offensive to the people who live under oppressive regimes or in poverty.
Having worked in Sub-Sahara Africa, SE Asia, Middle East and C America, I agree.
What's often so striking about British political, social and economic "debate" is its navel-gazing insularity - and its absurdly melodramatic self pitying pessimism. Which the OP typifies.
That applies equally to our mainstream culture and current affairs too. For example, would you believe it's actually snowing in other parts of northern Europe and not just this sceptred isle? You could probably watch BBC News 24 non-stop for a week and still be ignorant of that...
I am having trouble seeing the connection between an excvessive number of lollipop ladies on a zebra crossing and a third world dictatorship. Can someone please enlighten me?
Japan does not have a Capitalist system, it has elements but not the complete requirements. Same goes for South Korea. China isn't socialist or communist and neither is North Korea, again some elements are there but not the whole.
Capitalism and the Free Market are as impossible achievement as Communism. But then expecting people to read the political and economic theory they espouse is rather silly.
Capitalism is not a theory though, and there are no 'complete requirements' for a capitalist state as capitalism does not have a precise definition. But then expecting people to know that is rather silly
Ok, I've been tempted to put this to you for a few days now. You are clearly very keen on socialism and believe it is a better structure than capitalism.
Do you therefore believe that the Chinese political structure is a better one than the Japanese system?
Do you also believe that the North Korean political structure is a better one than the South Korean system?
'Actually,there has never been a true communist society, ergo you cannot criticise communism or say it would not work, you are obviously too stupid to understand this, naa naa naa naa naa'
Tax levels soar, fuel prices soar, cuts here, there and everywhere, forced to pay for schools (and we don't even get a refund on our tax when the schools are shut all the time) :mad:
Salvation army having to give people stranded at euro star & airports tea because we can't even put people up for the night & give them a cuppa.
Health and safety laws out of control, shops close early, post offices are a joke, government do as they like and nobody can stop them, DVLA etc is a joke and it needs competition.
You can't even park on a quiet patch of road with a single yellow line on it without some harridan swooping out from an alley to ticket you :mad:
and yesterday I saw 2 lollipop people at a set of traffic lights
everything in shops, cafes etc is a bloody rip off, and customer service is horrific.
But don't worry. You lot just sit there, debate over which party is better, moan about things, focus on the Sherridan trial (another waste of money) and X Factor (Will anyone over 40 win? no because its a fix like everything else) and do nothing about it.
We need to riot, stop buying petrol and going to work for a month, bring the economy and the government down, regain control of OUR country, and get things up and running the way they should be.
100% agreement to the first paragraph. There's no way of resolving this though, as ALL our potential governments haven't the stomach to withdraw from the EU, and take the steps to solve our problems.
And we haven't the gumption to vote a party in, that WILL do what's necessary.
Everythings being sold to foreigners - now it might be Man United to the Quatari's and the Post Office to the Dutch .Greedy traders are stockpiling cocoa , grain to force up the price so the speculator rats win yet again .
Private shareholders and owners should be free to sell it to whoever they like. Royal Mail is a bit different, and IMO I don't think we should sell it to TNT or DP or any of the other conglomerates. Why not float it?
We need to riot, stop buying petrol and going to work for a month, bring the economy and the government down, regain control of OUR country, and get things up and running the way they should be.
Who decides what 'running the way they should be' is?
Surely it would be reasonably easy to allow private companies to sell road tax?
Doesn't that already happen? DVLA isn't the exclusive issuer of tax discs - the Post Office does too. It may not be private (though isn't the PO owned by Royal Mail, who is expected to make a profit), but there is competition.
It isn't as though prices would go down, as tax is set by government. Can I get a discount when I buy my London Congestion Charge at BP instead of a newsagent?
Doesn't that already happen? DVLA isn't the exclusive issuer of tax discs - the Post Office does too. It may not be private (though isn't the PO owned by Royal Mail, who is expected to make a profit), but there is competition.
It isn't as though prices would go down, as tax is set by government. Can I get a discount when I buy my London Congestion Charge at BP instead of a newsagent?
DVLA does a bit more than just road tax.
Yes, registration of new vehicles etc, could also be done privately.
Yes, registration of new vehicles etc, could also be done privately.
I'm not sure what this would achieve. Wouldn't it all need to be recorded in databases owned by the DVLA anyway? A decentralised approach wouldn't work well - imagine the Police having to ring all the various registrars to see who registered a car.
Monopolies tend to be a bad thing, but in some cases they are necessary. I think the DVLA is one of them.
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Japan does not have a Capitalist system, it has elements but not the complete requirements. Same goes for South Korea. China isn't socialist or communist and neither is North Korea, again some elements are there but not the whole.
Capitalism and the Free Market are as impossible achievement as Communism. But then expecting people to read the political and economic theory they espouse is rather silly.
Having worked in Sub-Sahara Africa, SE Asia, Middle East and C America, I agree.
What's often so striking about British political, social and economic "debate" is its navel-gazing insularity - and its absurdly melodramatic self pitying pessimism. Which the OP typifies.
That applies equally to our mainstream culture and current affairs too. For example, would you believe it's actually snowing in other parts of northern Europe and not just this sceptred isle? You could probably watch BBC News 24 non-stop for a week and still be ignorant of that...
Capitalism is not a theory though, and there are no 'complete requirements' for a capitalist state as capitalism does not have a precise definition. But then expecting people to know that is rather silly
I favour none of them.
So really socialism isn't anymore successful than capitalism in practice.
Well, you said it, Vellum.
China is not a Socialist state in my opinion.
N. Korea is a top-down Stalinist autocratic bureaucracy.
The nearest we have had to a decent Socialist society is the Lenin-era USSR - even though they had to contend with invasion by the west and civil war.
It was a tragedy Lenin died so young.
Nope you said it, I para-phrased it.
Why do Socialists always assume that reading Marx is a sign of intelligence?
LOL
Watch for the collapse of the dollar.
Then things will change for the worse super fast.
New world currency and world government.
Have you been watching V.
I agree.
If he'd lived longer, he might have developed some more sensible theories.:)
Because behind every great man is a woman and behind her is his wife.
Oops sorry, wrong Marx.
100% agreement to the first paragraph. There's no way of resolving this though, as ALL our potential governments haven't the stomach to withdraw from the EU, and take the steps to solve our problems.
And we haven't the gumption to vote a party in, that WILL do what's necessary.
"You'll give me a pass on this driving test or I'll take my business elsewhere" (I realise this is the DSA but don't ruin it)
Private shareholders and owners should be free to sell it to whoever they like. Royal Mail is a bit different, and IMO I don't think we should sell it to TNT or DP or any of the other conglomerates. Why not float it?
Can't argue with that.
How can the DVLA have competition?
Maybe one was training the other?
Who decides what 'running the way they should be' is?
Surely it would be reasonably easy to allow private companies to sell road tax?
Doesn't that already happen? DVLA isn't the exclusive issuer of tax discs - the Post Office does too. It may not be private (though isn't the PO owned by Royal Mail, who is expected to make a profit), but there is competition.
It isn't as though prices would go down, as tax is set by government. Can I get a discount when I buy my London Congestion Charge at BP instead of a newsagent?
DVLA does a bit more than just road tax.
Yes, registration of new vehicles etc, could also be done privately.
I'm not sure what this would achieve. Wouldn't it all need to be recorded in databases owned by the DVLA anyway? A decentralised approach wouldn't work well - imagine the Police having to ring all the various registrars to see who registered a car.
Monopolies tend to be a bad thing, but in some cases they are necessary. I think the DVLA is one of them.