It's the obvious place for a Marvel show, just as The CW is the obvious place for a DC show.
I don't think it really matters too much tbh about Gotham and Constantine being on other networks, as they don't lend themselves to crossovers anyway. Bruce is too young in Gotham for it to fit with other heroes in the TV universe or film universe, while Constantine does not fit at all IMO as demons, angels, and the supernatural have no place in Arrow etc. on TV and don't really fit with the more SF film universe created by Man of Steel.
But Supergirl really would have made more sense to be on The CW with Arrow and The Flash. It could have tied to the two of them, with all three tying to the film universe.
Crossovers between networks may not be full-on "impossible", but it is *very* difficult. Networks do not like them as it means promoting their competition.
Buffy and Angel had slight crossovers when Buffy was on UPN and Angel was on The WB, but nothing full-on. They were also a special case because Angel started life as a Buffy spin-off, and they were both originally on the The WB before Buffy moved to UPN for its final two seasons.
Crossovers between parent and spin-off shows or shows within the same franchise are common as they're always (except for the above) on the same network: The CSIs, the NCISs, the Law and Orders...
You sometimes get other crossovers (eg NCIS LA with Hawaii Five-0), but they're still on the same network.
Cross-network crossovers are very rare, and when they do happen they tend to just be a character appearing on another show (HLOTS' Munch on The X Files) without it being a proper crossover with a continuing story that's canon to both shows.
But Marvel doesn't own Netflix and yet they are showing their TV shows!
I know it's unlikely for crossovers with these DC shows but it may happen!
Im just saying that DC have done a great job with their TV universe with these shows but the only mistake that they have made is not linking them into the DC film universe like Marvel have done with their TV shows and films!
Netflix isn't a normal network, though, and obviously has no problem with its Marvel series being properly linked to the ABC series and the films.
I think it's *extremely* unlikely that there'll be any kind of crossover between the DC shows that are on different networks, and I think it's stupid of Warner/DC to not link the TV series with the films.
I agree about DC being stupid not to link their TV shows to the films.However I think DC tv strategy is perfectly fine and has worked well for them which is why it seems strange not to take advantage of that and link them to the films!
I'm sorry, gotta disagree - Agents of Shied a.k.a Piece of Crap is a prime example of why the two mediums should never link. The creators of AOS admitted that they were just biding time until Captain America premièred in theatres. Linking the shows with the movies completely ties their hands. DC has gone about their TV work the right way. It's their movies they need to get together.
It's an assumption based upon the well known difficulty of having crossovers between series that are on different and rival networks.
Arrow & The Flash - The CW
Gotham - Fox
Constantine - NBC
Supergirl - CBS
OK, Gotham is the wrong time period anyway as Bruce is too young, while Constantine doesn't really fit with the rest.
But Supergirl would have made much more sense to be on The CW (joint owned by Warner, the owner of DC), and would have made much more sense to be officially linked to the film universe (& also Arrow & The Flash depending on where they go with those).
CBS co-owns the CW, a crossover between Supergirl and Arrow/The Flash might not be as unlikely as you claim...
I'm sorry, gotta disagree - Agents of Shied a.k.a Piece of Crap is a prime example of why the two mediums should never link. The creators of AOS admitted that they were just biding time until Captain America premièred in theatres. Linking the shows with the movies completely ties their hands. DC has gone about their TV work the right way. It's their movies they need to get together.
Do you still watch Agents of SHIELD?
It improved vastly over the first season, with the main turning point being (as mentioned) Cap 2. It continued to improve after that, and IMO is definitely worth watching if you like the genre.
It all sounds a bit like a mess. Like they want to bring as much press to it as possible. Look at all the stuff we've got coming guys!
Fact is, this all goes out the window if Batman vs Superman sucks. I'm so torn about that movie I literally won't be surprised if it goes either way; if they either pull off a spectacular film, or a film that just had too much shoved into it.
The main difference between Marvel and DC is that Marvel seem to get the whole, "hint at later movies thing," better than DC does (and I'll throw Sony into this as well, with the latest Spiderman abomination). With Marvel, yes they hint away at what's to come, but they're also focused primarily on making a good film (Iron Man 2 aside). You want to rush back and see what's going to happen in the next Marvel movie simply because you had such a rollicking good time watching the last one, not just because of their teasing.
Compare that to the Amazing Spiderman's ending. Green Goblin is assembling a team that's going to do... something. It's all about how cool everything is going to be, not how it is. And the same can be said for DC here. BVS may end up just being one huge tease for the Justice League Movie, and nothing else.
IFact is, this all goes out the window if Batman vs Superman sucks.
This.
My lot had loads of their mates round yesterday, and I was surprised to see the conversation turn to the film. Only one is a superhero fan, yet 8 people aged between 19-24 were enthusing and speculating like mad.
DC CCE Geoff Johns has said that they like to think of their TV show and Films as multiverse that can co-exist.He also said that in the future they may link them up if it makes sense
DC CCE Geoff Johns has said that they like to think of their TV show and Films as multiverse that can co-exist.He also said that in the future they may link them up if it makes sense
So basically they're going for a parallel universe and at some point when they bored/either needs a push in popularity, they'll have a crossover...
Yeah properly which means it won't happen for a while especially as DC have all their films planned up to 2020. That will properly be after the TV shows Arrow and The Flash have finished on TV so it would make it a bigger event!
Although the rate that DC TV shows are being made they will have quite a lot to fit into a film version of Crisis On Infinite Earths
Will Smith (Deadshot), Tom Hardy (Rick Flagg), Jared Leto (The Joker - big shoes to fill!), Margot Robbie (Harley Quinn), Jai Courtney (Boomerang) and unbelievably Cara Delevingne! (Enchantress). They're still trying to lock down Jesse Eisenberg for Lex Luthor.
Will Smith (Deadshot), Tom Hardy (Rick Flagg), Jared Leto (The Joker - big shoes to fill!), Margot Robbie (Harley Quinn), Jai Courtney (Boomerang) and unbelievably Cara Delevingne! (Enchantress). They're still trying to lock down Jesse Eisenberg for Lex Luthor.
Starts shooting April next year.
Crazy good or crazy bad?!
I quite like the casting, there are to still to cast and the shortlist is Viola Davis, Octavia Spencer and Oprah Winfrey. Viola Davis is my favourite of the three but Oprah could work as well
yes big shoes to fill but i think leto could do it.
The interesting thing about this incarnation of The Joker will be that he has Hayley Quinn to play off of. He's never had that before, we've never seen that before so this will definetely be interesting to see on screen. Let's hope it works! I can absolutely imagine Margot Robbie will kill in the role of Harley.
The interesting thing about this incarnation of The Joker will be that he has Hayley Quinn to play off of. He's never had that before, we've never seen that before so this will definetely be interesting to see on screen. Let's hope it works! I can absolutely imagine Margot Robbie will kill in the role of Harley.
Fact is, this all goes out the window if Batman vs Superman sucks.
Even if that film does suck, at least three other DCU films will be well into production by the time we find out. So it doesn't all go out the window at all.
The absolute bare minimum we'll get from the Man of Steel DCU is five films.
It's been announced, as have the others, according to my latest Empire Magazine. Obviously standalone Batman and Superman films will probably be added to that list at some point, you'd imagine. Keep in mind Marvel announced 17 films for during the timespan of that list as well.
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It's the obvious place for a Marvel show, just as The CW is the obvious place for a DC show.
I don't think it really matters too much tbh about Gotham and Constantine being on other networks, as they don't lend themselves to crossovers anyway. Bruce is too young in Gotham for it to fit with other heroes in the TV universe or film universe, while Constantine does not fit at all IMO as demons, angels, and the supernatural have no place in Arrow etc. on TV and don't really fit with the more SF film universe created by Man of Steel.
But Supergirl really would have made more sense to be on The CW with Arrow and The Flash. It could have tied to the two of them, with all three tying to the film universe.
Crossovers between networks may not be full-on "impossible", but it is *very* difficult. Networks do not like them as it means promoting their competition.
Buffy and Angel had slight crossovers when Buffy was on UPN and Angel was on The WB, but nothing full-on. They were also a special case because Angel started life as a Buffy spin-off, and they were both originally on the The WB before Buffy moved to UPN for its final two seasons.
Crossovers between parent and spin-off shows or shows within the same franchise are common as they're always (except for the above) on the same network: The CSIs, the NCISs, the Law and Orders...
You sometimes get other crossovers (eg NCIS LA with Hawaii Five-0), but they're still on the same network.
Cross-network crossovers are very rare, and when they do happen they tend to just be a character appearing on another show (HLOTS' Munch on The X Files) without it being a proper crossover with a continuing story that's canon to both shows.
I know it's unlikely for crossovers with these DC shows but it may happen!
Im just saying that DC have done a great job with their TV universe with these shows but the only mistake that they have made is not linking them into the DC film universe like Marvel have done with their TV shows and films!
I think it's *extremely* unlikely that there'll be any kind of crossover between the DC shows that are on different networks, and I think it's stupid of Warner/DC to not link the TV series with the films.
CBS co-owns the CW, a crossover between Supergirl and Arrow/The Flash might not be as unlikely as you claim...
Do you still watch Agents of SHIELD?
It improved vastly over the first season, with the main turning point being (as mentioned) Cap 2. It continued to improve after that, and IMO is definitely worth watching if you like the genre.
Ah... good point!
Fact is, this all goes out the window if Batman vs Superman sucks. I'm so torn about that movie I literally won't be surprised if it goes either way; if they either pull off a spectacular film, or a film that just had too much shoved into it.
The main difference between Marvel and DC is that Marvel seem to get the whole, "hint at later movies thing," better than DC does (and I'll throw Sony into this as well, with the latest Spiderman abomination). With Marvel, yes they hint away at what's to come, but they're also focused primarily on making a good film (Iron Man 2 aside). You want to rush back and see what's going to happen in the next Marvel movie simply because you had such a rollicking good time watching the last one, not just because of their teasing.
Compare that to the Amazing Spiderman's ending. Green Goblin is assembling a team that's going to do... something. It's all about how cool everything is going to be, not how it is. And the same can be said for DC here. BVS may end up just being one huge tease for the Justice League Movie, and nothing else.
My lot had loads of their mates round yesterday, and I was surprised to see the conversation turn to the film. Only one is a superhero fan, yet 8 people aged between 19-24 were enthusing and speculating like mad.
So basically they're going for a parallel universe and at some point when they bored/either needs a push in popularity, they'll have a crossover...
Although the rate that DC TV shows are being made they will have quite a lot to fit into a film version of Crisis On Infinite Earths
would be a smart tie in to make more casual fans aware that they should see SS if they like bats and supes.
To be directed by David Ayer (Fury).
What a cast!
Will Smith (Deadshot), Tom Hardy (Rick Flagg), Jared Leto (The Joker - big shoes to fill!), Margot Robbie (Harley Quinn), Jai Courtney (Boomerang) and unbelievably Cara Delevingne! (Enchantress). They're still trying to lock down Jesse Eisenberg for Lex Luthor.
Starts shooting April next year.
Crazy good or crazy bad?!
I quite like the casting, there are to still to cast and the shortlist is Viola Davis, Octavia Spencer and Oprah Winfrey. Viola Davis is my favourite of the three but Oprah could work as well
yes big shoes to fill but i think leto could do it.
The interesting thing about this incarnation of The Joker will be that he has Hayley Quinn to play off of. He's never had that before, we've never seen that before so this will definetely be interesting to see on screen. Let's hope it works! I can absolutely imagine Margot Robbie will kill in the role of Harley.
yup,cant wait to see the outfits lol
saying that, bloody long wait for BVS
The absolute bare minimum we'll get from the Man of Steel DCU is five films.
[August 5] 2016 - Suicide Squad
[June 23] 2017 - Wonder Woman
[November 17] 2017- Justice League
[March 23] 2018 - The Flash
[July 27] 2018 - Aquaman
[April 5] 2019 - Shazam
[June 14] 2019 - Justice League 2
[April 3] 2020 - Cyborg
[June 19] 2020 - Green Lantern
It's been announced, as have the others, according to my latest Empire Magazine. Obviously standalone Batman and Superman films will probably be added to that list at some point, you'd imagine. Keep in mind Marvel announced 17 films for during the timespan of that list as well.