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Not sure if its been reported on here but a UKIP councillor has been recorded making the comment.
They really should vet people they allow in front of the camera, its not just UKIP even the main parties have people like this.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31565770
UKIP press officer Liz Langton Way: "The only people I do have problems with are negroes. And I don't know why.
They really should vet people they allow in front of the camera, its not just UKIP even the main parties have people like this.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31565770
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Frankly, it's a non-event. These remarks are absolutely typical of UKIP councillor rhetoric, and I can't see anyone being in the least bit surprised.
Good grief. I know why even if she doesn't. i.e. You're racist, mate!
Usual caveat, I do not believe all Ukip voters, all Ukip members or officials are racists or bigots, in fact I believe the majority aren't, but as a political party they do seem to have disproportionately more of them than any other party and are obviously a party that many racists are attracted to, even their own leader boasts of taking over one third of the BNP vote and the EDL leadership is on record expressing their support for Ukip
Ahhh bollocks... when are we all going to just admit UKIP is made up of this.
Trust me, I am no fan of Ukip, but every time something like the story above comes out we do have the usual suspects who insist that everyone thinks that Ukip voters and party members are all racists,
which, no matter how many times some of us say that it's not so, they refuse to acknowledge that we say it, and that's why I make a point of always stating the truth,
I despair of this "Ukip are racists" stuff and sometimes think they actually like it, as it helps them to avoid actually discussing their policies,
within moments of any post critical of Ukip hitting the forum it almost always descends into a "did you just call my pint a racist"? no "I think you did, well I am not a racist and nor is my wife"
and before you know it whatever point was being made is lost in yet another "are aren't are, aren't" pantomime.
I bet that this incident like all the other hundreds of incidents in which people associated with UKIP say offensive things a complete one off.
When will the media stop focusing on these 782 one-off's?
How many are 'lots'?
Well apparently all unemployed are scroungers because 'lots' of them have been caught scrounging, so why can't we do the same to MPs?
Dolphin square for example, no one really knows who went there but it was a considerable amount of MP's according to some sources.
At least 40 it would seem.
So bloody predictable.
Really? Is that backed up with evidence or just your general feeling? I would actually wager that for every story of a UKIP councillor who has been reported to have said something racist or un PC.. I bet I can find just as many racism stories featuring another party. I'm pretty certain of it actually. I just typed a major party + councillor + racism and found about five examples just on the first page of results.
What makes you think UKIP has a disproportionate amount?
Why is it that when a UKIP councillor says something racist, it's suggested she represents the entire party. Yet when another party councillor says something racist, they're not?
Some people do. But I would not. No doubt there is a cover up, but "new" MP's will not be involved.
That's the problem with the Beeb. They seem to regard the racist comments of a councillor who UKIP have expelled as being a more important news story than investigating child abuse cover ups. Never do they even touch on the stuff the Mail and Mirror have at least tried to highlight. Still they as the Saville case proved were of course complicit in those cover ups.
In fairness, in this case, a member not only said something racist, they said it in front of a camera crew. Which makes her racist *and* stupid, basically!
It's just flack... at some point we started letting racists let us define what racism is.
Are you genuinely interested in the evidence? the fact that the EDL endorse Ukip, the fact that Farage boasts about taking over one third of the BNP vote?
name another party that A/ has taken over a third of the BNP vote, and that B/ boasts about it?
I have never denied that other parties have racists and bigots both as elected representatives and as voters,
You see, this is what I am on about, have you seen the thread about Austin Mitchell? have a read, there is a guy a Labour MP who has come out with a bloody stupid comment, the result? lots and lots Labour party detractors basically accusing the Labour party and everyone who votes for it of either supporting or turning a blind eye to pedos,
So don't feel so put on, Ukip want to play in the big school then they will be attacked, and not everyone will be as polite as me, at least I don't call ALL kippers racists, I even make a point of saying that I believe that most aren't
But for such a small party they DO seem to have a habit of attracting a disproportionate number of them (when compared to other parties)
perhaps you might enlighten us as to why you think Tommy Robinson of the EDL urged his supporters to vote Ukip, saying "they say what we say but in a different way"?
or why Farage himself boasts that over one third of the BNP vote have gone over to Ukip?,
why do you think they went to Ukip and not Labour or the Tories?, and do you think that Cameron or Miliband would boast about it if they had?
doesn't it make you stop and think "hang on... I know I'm not a racists, but how come all these former BNP voters and EDL supporters are getting behind Ukip, have all these people suddenly decided not to be racists? or could it be that they see Ukip as the closest party to their particular views?,
and do I, as a non racist, really want to be associated with a party that racists are so obviously attracted to?"
Well I suppose that depends on if you subscribe to the view that everyone who voted BNP is a racist or if you subscribe to the view that people voted BNP for various reasons and not every single voter was racist.
For example Channel 4 conducted a poll looking into this very issue when BNP did well in the EU elections and found that a large % of the BNP vote were actually more concerned with immigration and felt disenfranchised with the main political parties rather than holding racist views. Sound familiar?
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/domestic_politics/who+voted+bnp+and+why/3200557.html
So Nigel appears to have actually been stating what the Channel 4 research suggested.. that there was a % of the BNP vote held by people with non racist views who felt immigration was an issue not being addressed by the main parties. So he will have felt that section of the vote was up for grabs by UKIP. Would any other party boast about it? Of course not. That would be far too honest of them.
As for the EDL.. they can endorse whoever they like, that's not within UKIPs control. And their reasoning was vague at best.
Appreciate the comment you made about the Labour story today. Guilty as charged on that one.
They only seem to stop coming out with racist remarks when they have something sexist or homophobic to say.
Why ask the question if only one answer is aloud. No point asking the question !! Which makes the program culpable to anyone offended
Absolutely! Which means there is no wrong or right answer.
Unless you are preaching hatred which she was not doing