Options

The Ratings Thread (Part 44)

1122123125127128276

Comments

  • Options
    RobbieSykes123RobbieSykes123 Posts: 14,022
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    There is no BBC One +1 that's why

    I will concede that if we had a level playing field and all channels, at least the main five, had +1s, then it would be less of an issue.

    It's just wrong to claim victory for one show that had two bites of the cherry over a show that did not have that advantage.

    How can anyone say that is fair?
  • Options
    cylon6cylon6 Posts: 25,486
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    So Corrie very strong at 9.44m. So that beats the Xmas Day and NYD EE episodes then. Huh! ;):p

    As for Africa. I knew it would do well. A great start for what was an amazing first episode.

    Corrie's rating reminds me of last year when EastEnders built to the big exit of Pat but then Becky's exit in Corrie a few weeks later was much higher. EastEnders does event episodes well but the episodes around them let them down. They're the ones I hear fans complaining about.
  • Options
    cylon6cylon6 Posts: 25,486
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    There is no BBC One +1 that's why

    Plus the BBC said it would be a significant cost to set up +1 channels, so that's the other reason why they aren't doing it.
  • Options
    KennyTKennyT Posts: 20,702
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    Sorry, are you saying that Barb does count multiple viewers in its published figures?

    I always thought repeat viewers were stripped out?
    Depends whether you think someone that watches the same prog twice is worth less than a second unique viewer...

    K
  • Options
    Wynne EvansWynne Evans Posts: 1,066
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    I will concede that if we had a level playing field and all channels, at least the main five, had +1s, then it would be less of an issue.

    It's just wrong to claim victory for one show that had two bites of the cherry over a show that did not have that advantage.

    How can anyone say that is fair?

    It's not, I agree with your post, it should be a fair field of play.
  • Options
    Wynne EvansWynne Evans Posts: 1,066
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    cylon6 wrote: »
    Plus the BBC said it would be a significant cost to set up +1 channels, so that's the other reason why they aren't doing it.

    I have never saw from my own point of view the need for plus one channels when there is so many alternative ways to catch up with favourite program's that may have been missed,
  • Options
    RPMRPM Posts: 521
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    Sorry if I missed it, but does anyone have the ratings for the BBC3 repeats of the Christmas and New Year's Top of the Pops on New Year's day (7-8 + 8-9pm)

    Thanks in advance.
  • Options
    ronantronant Posts: 4,785
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    RPM wrote: »
    Sorry if I missed it, but does anyone have the ratings for the BBC3 repeats of the Christmas and New Year's Top of the Pops on New Year's day (7-8 + 8-9pm)

    Thanks in advance.

    270k (1%) for Christmas and 330k (1.2%) for New Year.
  • Options
    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 953
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    Very well done across the Channels yesterday, BBC1 did very well with its daytime switcherooing, but we dont know whether BBC2 has been harmed by their new schedule. ITV1 had a great evening, but 8-10 will surely not see ratings like that for a while when Midsommer's done in a couple of weeks time? Channel 4 didn't disgrace themselves, Hollyoaks looking healthier but I did think One Born could do better than that... And Channel 5, well they seemed to have fun trying to broadcast the weakest schedule in history, but they'll be fine tonight, as #CBB is already trending!!
  • Options
    JetsonJetson Posts: 13,318
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    I really do think the number of people watching the same programme again on +1 is so small as to be inconsequential to the figures.
  • Options
    RobbieSykes123RobbieSykes123 Posts: 14,022
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    I have never saw from my own point of view the need for plus one channels when there is so many alternative ways to catch up with favourite program's that may have been missed,

    And that's the nub of it.

    Commercial channels need to maximise the numbers watching each show. From ITV's perspective, it's not about giving viewers a second chance to watch Downton or Corrie, it's about getting the ad breaks in those shows seen by more people each night, by sweeping up other viewers who didn't choose to watch the main showing.

    That's why the BBC will never have +1s because there is no commercial justification for it.

    It's possible that people use a +1 for a crude means of time shifting, but that's not why commercial networks have set them up.

    I don't have a problem with saying "9.7m watched the Downton special, with another 510k tuning in for the same night repeat", but I do have a problem with saying "Downton beat Call the Midwife in the ratings battle by 10.3m to 10.2m", or claiming a "9pm hour win" only by adding in a repeat showing at 10.... :rolleyes:
  • Options
    RobbieSykes123RobbieSykes123 Posts: 14,022
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    James J wrote: »
    I really do think the number of people watching the same programme again on +1 is so small as to be inconsequential to the figures.

    So did Downton finish 6th or 2nd?

    Did it beat CTM or did it not?

    This really matters!!
  • Options
    BigOrangeBigOrange Posts: 59,674
    Forum Member
    danisfunny wrote: »
    Very well done across the Channels yesterday, BBC1 did very well with its daytime switcherooing, but we dont know whether BBC2 has been harmed by their new schedule. ITV1 had a great evening, but 8-10 will surely not see ratings like that for a while when Midsommer's done in a couple of weeks time? Channel 4 didn't disgrace themselves, Hollyoaks looking healthier but I did think One Born could do better than that... And Channel 5, well they seemed to have fun trying to broadcast the weakest schedule in history, but they'll be fine tonight, as #CBB is already trending!!
    Pick of the day on RadioTimes (online at least, dunno about the mag itself). Are they feeling okay? Not like them. :p
  • Options
    Stefano92Stefano92 Posts: 66,394
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    Good sign for CBB as it trending 9 hours before it is starting. I hope for over 3m (which would beat the last launch rating which got 2.7m).
  • Options
    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 953
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    Dancc wrote: »
    Pick of the day on RadioTimes (online at least, dunno about the mag itself). Are they feeling okay? Not like them. :p

    Yes there suggesting Waterloo Road, followed by CBB!?!?:eek:
  • Options
    ronantronant Posts: 4,785
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    danisfunny wrote: »
    Very well done across the Channels yesterday, BBC1 did very well with its daytime switcherooing, but we dont know whether BBC2 has been harmed by their new schedule. ITV1 had a great evening, but 8-10 will surely not see ratings like that for a while when Midsommer's done in a couple of weeks time? Channel 4 didn't disgrace themselves, Hollyoaks looking healthier but I did think One Born could do better than that... And Channel 5, well they seemed to have fun trying to broadcast the weakest schedule in history, but they'll be fine tonight, as #CBB is already trending!!
    Early days, and the schedule isn't really representative of what is to come, but...

    09:00 - Underdog: 204k (3.2%)
    10:15 - Coast: 229k (3.3%)
    10:45 - The Great British Bake Off: 357k (4.8%)
    11:45 - The Great British Bake Off: 458k (5.5%)
    12:45 - Great British Food Revival: 317k (3.3%)
    13.15 - Weakest Link: 450k (4.7%)
    14:20 - Inside Claridge's: 630k (6.5%)
    15:20 - The Cheyenne Social Club: 558k (4.9%)
    17:00 - Great Continental Railway Journeys: 853k (5.1%)

    The biggest rating before 9am was 68k (1.3%)
  • Options
    cylon6cylon6 Posts: 25,486
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    Ratings for Boxing Day are in. Miranda was watched by 11.55m. Mrs Brown's Boys tops Christmas week with 11.68m!! :D
  • Options
    lewiep93lewiep93 Posts: 5,880
    Forum Member
    cylon6 wrote: »
    Ratings for Boxing Day are in. Miranda was watched by 11.55m. Mrs Brown's Boys tops Christmas week with 11.68m!! :D

    Fantastic for Miranda! Cue a top 30 update :p

    Most Watched Shows of 2012 [Top 30 – Officials]
    01 – 24.47m – OLYMPICS 2012: CLOSING CEREMONY (12/08/12) – BBC 1/HD
    02 – 24.25m – OLYMPICS 2012: OPENING CEREMONY (27/07/12) – BBC 1/HD
    03 – 20.31m – EURO 2012: ENGLAND vs. ITALY (24/06/12) – BBC 1/HD
    04 – 17.33m – OLYMPICS 2012: MEN’S 100m FINAL (05/08/12) – BBC 1/HD
    05 – 16.22m – EURO 2012: ENGLAND vs. UKRAINE (19/06/12) – ITV 1/HD

    06 – 15.32m – THE DIAMOND JUBILEE CONCERT (04/06/12) – BBC 1/HD
    07 – 13.37m – STRICTLY COME DANCING (22/12/12) – BBC 1/HD
    08 – 12.56m – BRITAIN’S GOT TALENT (12/05/12) – ITV 1/HD
    09 – 12.20m – CORONATION STREET (23/01/12) – ITV 1/HD
    10 – 11.99m – THE VOICE UK (14/04/12) – BBC 1/HD

    11 – 11.76m – DOWNTON ABBEY (04/11/12) – ITV 1/HD
    12 – 11.68m – MRS BROWN’S BOYS (24/12/12) – BBC 1/HD
    13 – 11.55m – MIRANDA (26/12/12) – BBC 1/HD
    14 – 11.52m – WIMBLEDON 2012: MURRAY vs. FEDERER (08/07/12) – BBC 1/HD
    15 – 11.51m – I’M A CELEBRITY, GET ME OUT OF HERE! (11/11/12) – ITV 1/HD

    16 – 11.50m – THE X FACTOR (09/12/12) – ITV 1/HD
    17 – 11.41m – CALL THE MIDWIFE (19/02/12) – BBC 1/HD
    18 – 11.31m – EASTENDERS (25/12/12) – BBC 1/HD
    19 – 10.76m – SPORTS PERSONALITY OF THE YEAR (16/12/12) – BBC 1/HD
    20 – 10.74m – BBC NEWS (04/06/12) – BBC 1/HD

    21 – 10.66m – SHERLOCK (01/01/12) – BBC 1/HD
    22 – 10.47m – THE DIAMOND JUBILEE THAMES PAGEANT (03/06/12) – BBC 1/HD
    23 – 9.90m – THE ROYLE FAMILY (25/12/12) – BBC 1/HD
    24 – 9.87m – DOCTOR WHO (25/12/12) – BBC 1/HD
    25 – 9.47m – EMMERDALE (17/10/12) – ITV 1/HD

    26 – 9.39m – OUTNUMBERED (24/12/12) – BBC 1/HD
    27 – 9.11m – DANCING ON ICE (08/01/12) – ITV 1/HD
    28 – 8.82m – ROYAL VARIETY PERFORMANCE (03/12/12) – ITV 1/HD
    39 – 8.57m – NEW TRICKS (17/09/12) – BBC 1/HD
    30 – 8.48m – TITANIC (25/03/12) – ITV 1/HD
  • Options
    cylon6cylon6 Posts: 25,486
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    Now who would have expected Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys to be so huge over Christmas? I thought 10m tops but not this! BLIMEY! :eek:

    No wonder ITV are doing some studio sitcoms this year.
  • Options
    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    Looks like Daybreak suffered from being off the air over Christmas and no ITN News lead-in any more.
  • Options
    RobbieSykes123RobbieSykes123 Posts: 14,022
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    cylon6 wrote: »
    Now who would have expected Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys to be so huge over Christmas? I thought 10m tops but not this! BLIMEY! :eek:

    No wonder ITV are doing some studio sitcoms this year.

    And as a bonus they both finished ahead of TXF, which languished in 16th!

    The next target is for both sitcoms to get consolidated audiences over 10m for each episode.

    Possible!

    What did the Boxing Day MBB end up with out of interest?
  • Options
    cylon6cylon6 Posts: 25,486
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    ftv wrote: »
    Looks like Daybreak suffered from being off the air over Christmas and no ITN News lead-in any more.

    Did the 5.30am news really mean much to Daybreak as a lead-in?
  • Options
    cylon6cylon6 Posts: 25,486
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    And as a bonus they both finished ahead of TXF, which languished in 16th!

    The next target is for both sitcoms to get consolidated audiences over 10m for each episode.

    Possible!

    What did the Boxing Day MBB end up with out of interest?

    10.72m for the Boxing Day Mrs Brown's Boys.
  • Options
    kwynne42kwynne42 Posts: 75,337
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    ftv wrote: »
    Looks like Daybreak suffered from being off the air over Christmas and no ITN News lead-in any more.

    Its probably more due to it still being the school holidays and the fact hardly anyone seems to have gone back to work seeing as the roads were completely empty during my Bus Journey this morning.
  • Options
    RobbieSykes123RobbieSykes123 Posts: 14,022
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    Also great for old school studio audience proper sitcoms to be the 6th and 7th most popular regular series on TV.

    Get it right, and it can be done!
This discussion has been closed.