Really? I got the impression she was actually sick of being asked about Gaga but knew the audience wanted something bitchy. Instead she opted for a compliment. Madonna could have given people what they wanted but she chose not to. The fact she has praised Gaga here seems to have annoyed certain Gaga fans more than if she had slagged her off.
Its been said now that in several interviews she has asked for Gaga not to be brought up but presenters keep doing so. Also as for Madonna being awkward. Have you not see this??
That could have been it, that's just the impression I got, especially after the famous 'reductive' interview. But then again I'm not overly familiar with Madonna's mannerisms.
If she doesn't want to talk about Gaga so much then I can't imagine why she would include Born This Way in her tour, further fanning the flames and people's interest...?
Yeah, I mean sitting down interviews where it's just purely question and answers. Tbh the only interviews I have watched of her was a David Letterman one and the Graham Norton one, and I definitely got a sense of her being quite awkward under that kind of pressure from the latter.
Lol at yourself, I've seen Gaga live and she is stunning, the sets, her acting, the story, it's a beautifully artisticly crafted performance, it's like a live musical movie!
Yes she is actually, she's worked hard for many, many years to get where she is now and she has a beautiful voice and keen artistic eye/mind that I adore and many others do, that is why she is an amazing artist.
So?
I've seen Madonna many times before too and her shows are about as close to perfection as you can get There's really no other artist that comes close.
Every one of them are a spectacular feast for the eyes and ears. Infact, The Blond Ambition tour was the first show which paved the way for others to follow.
Gaga puts together carnival shows for the freaks of society and labels it as "art" when truthfully, they're more of an embarrassment than anything else.
Lol at yourself, I've seen Gaga live and she is stunning, the sets, her acting, the story, it's a beautifully artisticly crafted performance, it's like a live musical movie!
Yes she is actually, she's worked hard for many, many years to get where she is now and she has a beautiful voice and keen artistic eye/mind that I adore and many others do, that is why she is an amazing artist.
I'm not a gaga hater in fact i enjoy her music and Madonna's for that matter. But a clear artistic mind really all i ever see from her is copy and paste from her many idols and influences if she perhaps concentrated on herself and making a decent album she truly could stand along side her idols and become an incredible artist as for now i just get the impression we're getting a cheap novelty act watered down to appeal to the masses that to me is not an artist and its a shame as she has or at least had such promise.
So you're mocking her for her weight (which I'm sure you'd have something to say about if little monsters did the same), using one gif of her doing one dance move in a two and half hour show, a video showing the crowd before the show had actually started, and I'm assuming that video is supposed to prove that Madonna is a better dancer than Gaga...? But Gaga is better singer, so I suppose it evens itself out doesn't it?
Firstly,
I hardly think Madonna would have sold 300 million albums if she couldn't sing and secondly, "Marry the night" was the last performance of the show...and thirdly, she STILL did that dance move, regardless of the length. We're not imagining it.
I could produce more video's of her "epic" dancing skills, but you will probably dismiss them like you usually do and argue that black's white, so it's a bit of a pointless exercise really.
That aside, I love that you've completely ignored what the other poster said about Madonna looking like she has rigor mortis and focused on my post.
Why is it perfectly fine to mock someone because of their age?
Funny how you guys refered to Adele as fat when she sold more albums than BTW, and yet now have the audacity to question others when Gaga has put on weight?
Seriously, fans like you seem to have a default setting which enables you to ignore and divert people away from the truth while blaming others, when it's usually the Little Monsters behind it.
I've never come across such a vile fanbase that relishes starting fueds and slating almost every artist on the face of the planet. Especially the successful ones like Adele. But again, I expect you'll say they were joking and dismiss it like you usually do.
(ignoring all previous irrelevant argumentative posts) :mad::sleep:
I do LOVE their recordings....they launched in 1979 didnt they soon after Madonna did a film when she moved to NYC...i must try and find that Doc i found when i posted it on the Madonna AT a while back showing Madonnas early days before her launch into superstardom - phenomenon - icon - legend status...it was fascinating!
I do hope these recordings see the light of day...i do love reading about the journey from The Breakfast Club and Emmy before the First Album came into fruition, fascinating
To be honest I don't see why Madonna should be compared to Gaga. Shouldn't Gaga be compared to Katy and Rihanna? Madonna is a living legend and Gaga certainly isn't at that level yet. And i'm not sure why Madonna should be jealous and threatened of Gaga Madonna has achieved more than Gaga can ever dream of and has sealed her legacy, she doesn't need to prove a thing to anyone
Really? I got the impression she was actually sick of being asked about Gaga but knew the audience wanted something bitchy. Instead she opted for a compliment. Madonna could have given people what they wanted but she chose not to. The fact she has praised Gaga here seems to have annoyed certain Gaga fans more than if she had slagged her off.
I agree, I took Madonna more then a year to dared to mention that Born This Way is similar to Express Yourself. In the meantime a large proportion of Lady Gaga's fanbase had already spent the best part of their social lives attempting to lambaste Madonna online at any point possible. Before she even said anything about Lady Gaga.
I agree, I took Madonna more then a year to dared to mention that Born This Way is similar to Express Yourself. In the meantime a large proportion of Lady Gaga's fanbase had already spent the best part of their social lives attempting to lambaste Madonna online at any point possible. Before she even said anything about Lady Gaga.
This is what I find fascinating about the whole thing.
Even though Madonna was nowhere to be seen in 2011, she seemed to be getting an awful lot of abuse from not only Gaga's fanbase, but from people around her too.
...and yet Madonna was the one who was "Bitter" when she made the "reductive" comment almost a year later?
I didn't see/hear bitterness or jealousy in that at all....
I thought the Gaga bit was funny because she knows people want her to say something bad, but the way she says "good voice!" and then carries on to say about her tattoo says to me that she likes gaga a lot more than the press/media (and fans) make out... I mean if you hated someone why would you know what they're tattoo meant and admire it?
Anyway, the only 'bad' response to anyone in there was probably Elton John but that was comical and not even really an insult lol.
I didn't see/hear bitterness or jealousy in that at all....
I thought the Gaga bit was funny because she knows people want her to say something bad, but the way she says "good voice!" and then carries on to say about her tattoo says to me that she likes gaga a lot more than the press/media (and fans) make out... I mean if you hated someone why would you know what they're tattoo meant and admire it?
Anyway, the only 'bad' response to anyone in there was probably Elton John but that was comical and not even really an insult lol.
BIB - THIS! Madonna admires gaga and she loves teasing media and she knows about fanbases...the fact this thread was even started i have no idea but social media really has highlighted the darkest side. Whereas Madonna right there knows about gaga and gaga has said several times before she went to a few of her Fame Ball/Monster Ball shows and offered gaga herself advice....it just seems absurd to think two years later we have bile thrown around :sleep:
BIB - THIS! Madonna admires gaga and she loves teasing media and she knows about fanbases...the fact this thread was even started i have no idea but social media really has highlighted the darkest side. Whereas Madonna right there knows about gaga and gaga has said several times before she went to a few of her Fame Ball/Monster Ball shows and offered gaga herself advice....it just seems absurd to think two years later we have bile thrown around :sleep:
I always compare it to the female judges on The X Factor. The media loves pitting two women against each other. If it isn't Gaga and Madonna it's Cheryl and Danni or Tulisa and Nicole.
LOL.
Whereas a cheap and tacky, clumsy knockoff, complete with flab and ugliness (at the grand old age of 26) is the perfect embodiment of what constitutes as an amazing artist?
Keep dreaming!
Um, sorry, who are you to poke fun at someones weight or looks? You're gorgeous are you?
What I find funny, is how you disapprove of these threads done by "Lady Gaga fans", as if they are all crazy and nasty, when you are the one attacking a woman on her looks and weight. I'd much rather be a Gaga fan than be a bitter troll like you.
I have no problem with being critical of Madge (witness her ass-holism re: stripping for support of the muslim girl).
But this is petty sh*te. She's giving quickfire answers to singers she clearly isn't bothered about. The only trace of cattiness, is directed at JLO, who deserves it for her comments she made towards Madge in the 90's (or was it early noughties?). Infact Madge needn't have bothered, time has proved JLO is a one trick pony who's outlived her sellby date.
And NO! I've not gone soft over Madge, I still think shes treading water re: music. Her only competition, imho, is Gaga, and its still early days for her.
Shade detection FAIL. Madonna was not bitter about anything, she said GaGa has a nice voice end of. I don't know what more some people want her to say...?
GaGa is so desperate anyway, shading everyone from Calvin Harris to Christina Aguilera to try and make a headline, she needs to worry about her own ARTFLOP before anything else.
This is what I find fascinating about the whole thing.
Even though Madonna was nowhere to be seen in 2011, she seemed to be getting an awful lot of abuse from not only Gaga's fanbase, but from people around her too.
...and yet Madonna was the one who was "Bitter" when she made the "reductive" comment almost a year later?
Please.:yawn:
Also don't forget Lady Gaga lied by saying she had received an e-mail from from Madonna's camp for supporting Born This Way. Lady Gaga also made a very clear dig at Madonna for thanking Whitney Houston as a inspiration behind Born This Way at the MTV Awards.
I agree with those saying the Madonna being jealous argument is so bizzare. You have to wonder why someone with a legacy spanning 4 decades would be jealous of anyone.
Madonna's made it and her name will be in lights forever. So its pathetic to say otherwise.
Also don't forget Lady Gaga lied by saying she had received an e-mail from from Madonna's camp for supporting Born This Way. Lady Gaga also made a very clear dig at Madonna for thanking Whitney Houston as a inspiration behind Born This Way at the MTV Awards.
Don't forget the odd Jacko and Madonna tear down face tranny look at the end of the Born This Way video as well. I would have been offended by that more than the actual song itself! She was clearly sending some sort of message to Madge there...
I agree with those saying the Madonna being jealous argument is so bizzare. You have to wonder why someone with a legacy spanning 4 decades would be jealous of anyone.
Madonna's made it and her name will be in lights forever. So its pathetic to say otherwise.
I know, Madonna is a living legend and has had a fantastic career. I can't see anything negative in that interview at all.Maybe when Gaga has had 30 years at the top, has become the biggest selling female artist of all time and has broken all Madonna's touring records we can then compare them.
I agree with those saying the Madonna being jealous argument is so bizzare. You have to wonder why someone with a legacy spanning 4 decades would be jealous of anyone.
Madonna's made it and her name will be in lights forever. So its pathetic to say otherwise.
Don't forget the odd Jacko and Madonna tear down face tranny look at the end of the Born This Way video as well. I would have been offended by that more than the actual song itself! She was clearly sending some sort of message to Madge there...
Gaga started getting a bit too big for her boots with the BTW era IMO. She shouldn't be comparing herself to legends when she has achieved relatively little
Gaga started getting a bit too big for her boots with the BTW era IMO. She shouldn't be comparing herself to legends when she has achieved relatively little
Yeah I mean at least when Madonna paid homage to Monroe in the Material Girl video she did it with class. The Madonna and Jacko images in Born This Way came across as tacky and big headed. Unless I missed the message she was trying to send out but then its never actually mentioned by the media that she did that if you noticed. Its more or less been brushed under the carpet.
I do like Gaga but I have never believed the whole innocent act. I still believe she egged Perez Hilton on in his campaign against Christina in 2010. She is very clever at hiding behind others when it comes to throwing shade.
The Madonna/MJ "shade" in BTW is one hell of a reach though, not a fact.
I'm pretty sure she has said that it is herself at the end. A freckled, tearing, gap tooth girl in 90s clobber. It doesn't make sense that it's Madonna, and if she was referencing her you'd think it'd be more obvious.
The MJ reference is there IMO, but it's just a visual nod.
Um, sorry, who are you to poke fun at someones weight or looks? You're gorgeous are you?
What I find funny, is how you disapprove of these threads done by "Lady Gaga fans", as if they are all crazy and nasty, when you are the one attacking a woman on her looks and weight. I'd much rather be a Gaga fan than be a bitter troll like you.
Erm, have you been on another planet over the last few years or just simply chosen to ignore the poison arrows aimed at Adele and anyone else who dared to be more successful than Gaga?
I do not usually poke fun at anyone's looks and If you bothered to read my posts correctly, you would notice I was actually giving them a taste of their own medicine, but I see you've ignored that, tripped and fell flat on your face. Oh well, carry on! :-S
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That could have been it, that's just the impression I got, especially after the famous 'reductive' interview. But then again I'm not overly familiar with Madonna's mannerisms.
If she doesn't want to talk about Gaga so much then I can't imagine why she would include Born This Way in her tour, further fanning the flames and people's interest...?
Yeah, I mean sitting down interviews where it's just purely question and answers. Tbh the only interviews I have watched of her was a David Letterman one and the Graham Norton one, and I definitely got a sense of her being quite awkward under that kind of pressure from the latter.
So?
I've seen Madonna many times before too and her shows are about as close to perfection as you can get There's really no other artist that comes close.
Every one of them are a spectacular feast for the eyes and ears. Infact, The Blond Ambition tour was the first show which paved the way for others to follow.
Gaga puts together carnival shows for the freaks of society and labels it as "art" when truthfully, they're more of an embarrassment than anything else.
Anyway, full marks for trying.
I'm not a gaga hater in fact i enjoy her music and Madonna's for that matter. But a clear artistic mind really all i ever see from her is copy and paste from her many idols and influences if she perhaps concentrated on herself and making a decent album she truly could stand along side her idols and become an incredible artist as for now i just get the impression we're getting a cheap novelty act watered down to appeal to the masses that to me is not an artist and its a shame as she has or at least had such promise.
I hardly think Madonna would have sold 300 million albums if she couldn't sing and secondly, "Marry the night" was the last performance of the show...and thirdly, she STILL did that dance move, regardless of the length. We're not imagining it.
I could produce more video's of her "epic" dancing skills, but you will probably dismiss them like you usually do and argue that black's white, so it's a bit of a pointless exercise really.
That aside, I love that you've completely ignored what the other poster said about Madonna looking like she has rigor mortis and focused on my post.
Why is it perfectly fine to mock someone because of their age?
Funny how you guys refered to Adele as fat when she sold more albums than BTW, and yet now have the audacity to question others when Gaga has put on weight?
Seriously, fans like you seem to have a default setting which enables you to ignore and divert people away from the truth while blaming others, when it's usually the Little Monsters behind it.
I've never come across such a vile fanbase that relishes starting fueds and slating almost every artist on the face of the planet. Especially the successful ones like Adele. But again, I expect you'll say they were joking and dismiss it like you usually do.
Yes, because you're obviously a shining example of that in the Madonna threads.
:rolleyes:
She has been in bands and done seperate dance recordings since the late seventies...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6jBID2G-qM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SQmRgW138M
(ignoring all previous irrelevant argumentative posts) :mad::sleep:
I do LOVE their recordings....they launched in 1979 didnt they soon after Madonna did a film when she moved to NYC...i must try and find that Doc i found when i posted it on the Madonna AT a while back showing Madonnas early days before her launch into superstardom - phenomenon - icon - legend status...it was fascinating!
I do hope these recordings see the light of day...i do love reading about the journey from The Breakfast Club and Emmy before the First Album came into fruition, fascinating
what year did she sign a record deal, what year was her debut single released. 1982
This is what I find fascinating about the whole thing.
Even though Madonna was nowhere to be seen in 2011, she seemed to be getting an awful lot of abuse from not only Gaga's fanbase, but from people around her too.
...and yet Madonna was the one who was "Bitter" when she made the "reductive" comment almost a year later?
Please.:yawn:
I thought the Gaga bit was funny because she knows people want her to say something bad, but the way she says "good voice!" and then carries on to say about her tattoo says to me that she likes gaga a lot more than the press/media (and fans) make out... I mean if you hated someone why would you know what they're tattoo meant and admire it?
Anyway, the only 'bad' response to anyone in there was probably Elton John but that was comical and not even really an insult lol.
BIB - THIS! Madonna admires gaga and she loves teasing media and she knows about fanbases...the fact this thread was even started i have no idea
I always compare it to the female judges on The X Factor. The media loves pitting two women against each other. If it isn't Gaga and Madonna it's Cheryl and Danni or Tulisa and Nicole.
Um, sorry, who are you to poke fun at someones weight or looks? You're gorgeous are you?
What I find funny, is how you disapprove of these threads done by "Lady Gaga fans", as if they are all crazy and nasty, when you are the one attacking a woman on her looks and weight. I'd much rather be a Gaga fan than be a bitter troll like you.
I have no problem with being critical of Madge (witness her ass-holism re: stripping for support of the muslim girl).
But this is petty sh*te. She's giving quickfire answers to singers she clearly isn't bothered about. The only trace of cattiness, is directed at JLO, who deserves it for her comments she made towards Madge in the 90's (or was it early noughties?). Infact Madge needn't have bothered, time has proved JLO is a one trick pony who's outlived her sellby date.
And NO! I've not gone soft over Madge, I still think shes treading water re: music. Her only competition, imho, is Gaga, and its still early days for her.
GaGa is so desperate anyway, shading everyone from Calvin Harris to Christina Aguilera to try and make a headline, she needs to worry about her own ARTFLOP before anything else.
Madonna's made it and her name will be in lights forever. So its pathetic to say otherwise.
Don't forget the odd Jacko and Madonna tear down face tranny look at the end of the Born This Way video as well. I would have been offended by that more than the actual song itself! She was clearly sending some sort of message to Madge there...
I know, Madonna is a living legend and has had a fantastic career. I can't see anything negative in that interview at all.Maybe when Gaga has had 30 years at the top, has become the biggest selling female artist of all time and has broken all Madonna's touring records we can then compare them.
Gaga started getting a bit too big for her boots with the BTW era IMO. She shouldn't be comparing herself to legends when she has achieved relatively little
I do like Gaga but I have never believed the whole innocent act. I still believe she egged Perez Hilton on in his campaign against Christina in 2010. She is very clever at hiding behind others when it comes to throwing shade.
I'm pretty sure she has said that it is herself at the end. A freckled, tearing, gap tooth girl in 90s clobber. It doesn't make sense that it's Madonna, and if she was referencing her you'd think it'd be more obvious.
The MJ reference is there IMO, but it's just a visual nod.
Erm, have you been on another planet over the last few years or just simply chosen to ignore the poison arrows aimed at Adele and anyone else who dared to be more successful than Gaga?
I do not usually poke fun at anyone's looks and If you bothered to read my posts correctly, you would notice I was actually giving them a taste of their own medicine, but I see you've ignored that, tripped and fell flat on your face. Oh well, carry on! :-S