If people wish to dress or adorn their children in this kind of merchandise that is of course their prerogative. Personally I wouldn't let this stuff anywhere near my kids.
OP, you are entitled to your opinion and your teacher should respect this. If you can maturely and respectfully have it out with him, I would. Then he might at least see your point of view and you can see his - a little like a forum debate!
Personally, I do not think porn is "just a job." I like and can happily enjoy good porn but go onto any of the main porn sites out there and they are disgustingly degrading and humilating to women. Playboy and Hefner might claim to be the height of liberation but they reinforce stereotypes, they are aimed at men and despite claiming to show and love women's sexuality, they encourage women to embrace sexuality... all Playboy does is package sexuality and make it into women who are blonde, thin with massive t*ts pleasing men. That's not sexual, not accurate, is down right offensive and verging on the ridiculous.
I personally wouldn't want my child using Playboy merchandise. I see the appeal to girls though - it's pink and cute, has a little bunny on the side, it's 'cool'.. and it's hard to tell young girls exactly what it represents and stands for, they are most likely not to understand or care.
One day I'll write "Feminism for Kids", I really will
Isn't it just as offensive to see kids wearing football tops advertising alcohol? Getting brand awareness in when they are young.
Not really - I think most people accept that their kids will have the odd drink when they grow up but I don't know many who want their daughter to grow up to be a stripper!
Not really - I think most people accept that their kids will have the odd drink when they grow up but I don't know many who want their daughter to grow up to be a stripper!
That's not a correct comparison though is it? If having an affinity with the Playboy brand leads young girls into the porn industry in adult life, then surely if applied to kids wearing replica sports kits with Carling, Carlsberg etc on them, that would mean they'd grow up to work in a bar, pick hops in fields or become a fermenting specialist?
PS: But to stick with the idea that growing up knowing the name 'Carling' means a child would find an attraction to the drink at maturity, perhaps those growing up with Playboy merchandise would find themselves perhaps wishing to purchase a copy of the magazine? Nothing to suggest they would actually want to become a double-stuffed squirting ****-bag.
I think legal guidelines re. marketing to children should be intro'd to put an end to this.. Young kids aren't old enough to appreciate the connotations of the logo, and the fact that the company are cashing in on the superficially child-friendly pink bunny image, is nothing short of sickening.. Whether you think the wearing of the symbol is harmless or otherwise, surely the cynical, opportunistic attitude of the Playboy co. shouldn't be allowed to go unchecked?
A disturbing feature of this story for me (I work in education) is the attitude of the male teacher - who I feel is constantly belittleling you. I would advise you to speak to a (possibly female) teacher in confidence. She may be able to at least have a quiet word with this man so that he stops his unpleasant comments. He is in the wrong here - you are entitled to your opinion.
I agree. When I was at school there was a classmate who got caught with a porn magazine by a our female maths teacher. She constantly betlittled him for the remaining years we spent at school - in a really nasty way. We reported her to the head teacher but he did nothing about it.
Although it was funny hearing our classmate always end the exchanges by saying, 'Just because you're too ugly to be in one doesn't mean you should take it out on me'.
That's not a correct comparison though is it? If having an affinity with the Playboy brand leads young girls into the porn industry in adult life, then surely if applied to kids wearing replica sports kits with Carling, Carlsberg etc on them, that would mean they'd grow up to work in a bar, pick hops in fields or become a fermenting specialist?
PS: But to stick with the idea that growing up knowing the name 'Carling' means a child would find an attraction to the drink at maturity, perhaps those growing up with Playboy merchandise would find themselves perhaps wishing to purchase a copy of the magazine? Nothing to suggest they would actually want to become a double-stuffed squirting ****-bag.
When I was a kid I had a toy car from that Starsky & Hutch show, you know the Ford Torino with the white stripe.
When I passed my driving test the first car I bought was a red XR3i, a few years later there was a group I quite liked called the white Stripes
Sorry, I've forgotten the point I was going to make.
The teacher is an idiot, he asked for an opinion and got one. What's his problem?
Porn is just a job, for men and women.
I agree. Some people ask questions and then sometimes they don't like the answer they get. I can only assume that he was being totally spiteful and acted like a kid because maybe one person disagreed with him, therefore, making him look a bit stupid. I would have definitely told my parents about this if the teacher started going on like this with me. This is definitely a form of harrassment. This just goes to show that some teachers aren't fit for their job.
Right this story is a few years old but I thought I'd like to see other peoples opionin on it & if you've met people like this.
[Set in 2006]
It was in a R.E. class and we were discussing pornography (images and films) asking what we(the pupils) think about it and then the teacher Mr.H wanted a girls view on it and picked me so I said "It up to them what they do plus it's a well paid job" then the whole class started to laugh.. I obviously had no idea what to(3 years later adn its still not funny) so then the teacher said "so would you let your daughter do it" and I said "No" then the dumnass replies "There thought so!" as if Its not a job becuase I wont let my daughter do it. :rolleyes: (Can I just say that I dont have a daughter)
Right so this teacher would not let it go eveytime he passed me in the hall way he would say 'Its just a job' or if I'm with a teacher he would say "This girl think pornogrphy is just a job" :yawn:
Then one day he was doing class rounds and came into my english where I sat with this Girl lets call her D, and when Mr.H was leaving looked at me and said 'its just a job' so she asked what that was about, I told her then she was all like 'Well it objectifies woman' (again that doesnt stop it being a job) but sayiong this pimped out in playboy gear.
This girl - Love her shes very sweet and friendly- but how can she say to me Porn/Porn Images is objectifying woman when she sitting there pimped out in Playboy gear?!? (watch, earing, folder, pen and Her bedroom was also pimped out in PB stuff - It was like a fr*ekin factory) hunni, If you were so against this why are you wasting your time and money going out and buying the products from a company famous for Objectifying woman' and basically helping to fund and advertise them?
It would be me against fur but walking around with a coat made by 7 rare white lepords!
Sorry this has been on my chest for the past few weeks and wanted to let it all out!
Your teacher was [as you are] entitled to his opinion, for him to continue with the ribbing was a bit OTT but then there are many of us who remember being teased about stuff for years at school.
If as you say and still maintain it's just a job, why wouldn't you "let" your daughter do it?
I think legal guidelines re. marketing to children should be intro'd to put an end to this.. Young kids aren't old enough to appreciate the connotations of the logo, and the fact that the company are cashing in on the superficially child-friendly pink bunny image, is nothing short of sickening.. Whether you think the wearing of the symbol is harmless or otherwise, surely the cynical, opportunistic attitude of the Playboy co. shouldn't be allowed to go unchecked?
It might surprise you to to know that there are already legal guidelines in place and there's also an organisation called trading standards to deal with such things.
It might surprise some to know that before Playboy started making clothes and stuff for youngsters, women chose to go into the porn industry having left school never ever owning any playboy merchandise.
Your teacher should be ashamed! What a petty little man.
I always thought it was the job of teachers to educate, not pass off their moral standards onto other people. My mum's a teacher and so's my OH, and they'd be ashamed act like that about anything. Especially in this case I assume you were in your teens at the time!
That's not a correct comparison though is it? If having an affinity with the Playboy brand leads young girls into the porn industry in adult life, then surely if applied to kids wearing replica sports kits with Carling, Carlsberg etc on them, that would mean they'd grow up to work in a bar, pick hops in fields or become a fermenting specialist?
PS: But to stick with the idea that growing up knowing the name 'Carling' means a child would find an attraction to the drink at maturity, perhaps those growing up with Playboy merchandise would find themselves perhaps wishing to purchase a copy of the magazine? Nothing to suggest they would actually want to become a double-stuffed squirting ****-bag.
If people wish to dress or adorn their children in this kind of merchandise that is of course their prerogative. Personally I wouldn't let this stuff anywhere near my kids.
I agree 100%
And I wouldn't shy away from telling my child exactly what that 'cute' symbol stood for. It's called education, and starts at home not in school
And I wouldn't shy away from telling my child exactly what that 'cute' symbol stood for. It's called education, and starts at home not in school
Can you give us an example of telling your six year old that she cant have the cute pencil case because of the porn connection and how you explain what porn is without showing her any pictures?
the only way your daughter would be aware of the connection is if you tell her.
Or of course if she googles playboy images to print ( as believe me kids do without realising). Try it - google Playboy then click on images - do you still see just a cute bunny logo?
Can you give us an example of telling your six year old that she cant have the cute pencil case because of the porn connection and how you explain what porn is without showing her any pictures?
It might surprise you to to know that there are already legal guidelines in place and there's also an organisation called trading standards to deal with such things.
But isn't the focus generally on healthy eating and the safety of products etc.? I just assumed that Playboy merch. wouldn't fall within the scope of any existing guidelines..? Unless Hefner decided to market a dentally disastrous cereal with a cute pink bunny on the box- Crunchy Frosted Marshmallow Bunny Bites... :yawn:
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I don't know the real name for them but it looks like a kind of small sun mask in the shape of the playboy bunny. I'm guessing it comes as a sticker.
They're pretty shit eh?
If people wish to dress or adorn their children in this kind of merchandise that is of course their prerogative. Personally I wouldn't let this stuff anywhere near my kids.
Personally, I do not think porn is "just a job." I like and can happily enjoy good porn
I personally wouldn't want my child using Playboy merchandise. I see the appeal to girls though - it's pink and cute, has a little bunny on the side, it's 'cool'.. and it's hard to tell young girls exactly what it represents and stands for, they are most likely not to understand or care.
One day I'll write "Feminism for Kids", I really will
Not really - I think most people accept that their kids will have the odd drink when they grow up but I don't know many who want their daughter to grow up to be a stripper!
At first glance, I thought that hard to believe.
On second thoughts though, do you mean simply the "porn" connotations, or something more gender-political?
That's not a correct comparison though is it? If having an affinity with the Playboy brand leads young girls into the porn industry in adult life, then surely if applied to kids wearing replica sports kits with Carling, Carlsberg etc on them, that would mean they'd grow up to work in a bar, pick hops in fields or become a fermenting specialist?
PS: But to stick with the idea that growing up knowing the name 'Carling' means a child would find an attraction to the drink at maturity, perhaps those growing up with Playboy merchandise would find themselves perhaps wishing to purchase a copy of the magazine? Nothing to suggest they would actually want to become a double-stuffed squirting ****-bag.
I agree. When I was at school there was a classmate who got caught with a porn magazine by a our female maths teacher. She constantly betlittled him for the remaining years we spent at school - in a really nasty way. We reported her to the head teacher but he did nothing about it.
Although it was funny hearing our classmate always end the exchanges by saying, 'Just because you're too ugly to be in one doesn't mean you should take it out on me'.
When I passed my driving test the first car I bought was a red XR3i, a few years later there was a group I quite liked called the white Stripes
Sorry, I've forgotten the point I was going to make.
I agree. Some people ask questions and then sometimes they don't like the answer they get. I can only assume that he was being totally spiteful and acted like a kid because maybe one person disagreed with him, therefore, making him look a bit stupid. I would have definitely told my parents about this if the teacher started going on like this with me. This is definitely a form of harrassment. This just goes to show that some teachers aren't fit for their job.
If as you say and still maintain it's just a job, why wouldn't you "let" your daughter do it?
It might surprise some to know that before Playboy started making clothes and stuff for youngsters, women chose to go into the porn industry having left school never ever owning any playboy merchandise.
I always thought it was the job of teachers to educate, not pass off their moral standards onto other people. My mum's a teacher and so's my OH, and they'd be ashamed act like that about anything. Especially in this case I assume you were in your teens at the time!
Cheeky get!
Women? I doubt it.
I agree 100%
And I wouldn't shy away from telling my child exactly what that 'cute' symbol stood for. It's called education, and starts at home not in school
Or of course if she googles playboy images to print ( as believe me kids do without realising). Try it - google Playboy then click on images - do you still see just a cute bunny logo?
I used words.
I only remember having double maths when I was at school :eek:
I'm just wondering just in case I have to tell my daughter when she hits six
But isn't the focus generally on healthy eating and the safety of products etc.? I just assumed that Playboy merch. wouldn't fall within the scope of any existing guidelines..? Unless Hefner decided to market a dentally disastrous cereal with a cute pink bunny on the box- Crunchy Frosted Marshmallow Bunny Bites... :yawn: