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Jimmy Saville to be revealed as a paedophile? (Part 2)

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 799
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    pina74 wrote: »
    Or maybe most people are too embarrassed to list the book?

    When the story first broke I read that only one copy was located in a second hand book store somewhere and that someone drove some distance to collect it - though i've read so much recently that I might be wrong on the last detail. People may be listing them after reading the same article and realising they were of value to certain people.
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    sozzled2daysozzled2day Posts: 1,217
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    The scandal at the BBC has deepened as it emerged that presenters who have had complaints raised against them have been allowed to go on working without facing any formal investigation.

    Hart-Davis, 69, a second cousin of David Cameron and distantly related to the Queen, said that he had no knowledge of employees being warned to keep their distance from him.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/20/jimmy-savile-bbc-protecting-stars?newsfeed=true


    I found this excerpt below from an article in the Telegraph, but when I clicked on the link, it had already been removed.
    Jimmy Savile: Secret of BBC's first sex scandal
    Telegraph.co.uk‎ - 17 minutes ago
    Top disc jockeys and executives at the BBC were caught up in a sex scandal more than 40 years ago.
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    jzeejzee Posts: 25,498
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    jassi wrote: »
    It probably doesn't :rolleyes:
    It doesn't now, unfortunately it was very much real though, plenty of material on it academic works:

    http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22Paedophile+Information+Exchange%22&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks

    there was a thread on gd a while back about comments Peter Tatchell had made in a book where it said sexual relations between an adult and a child could be positive.....
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 87,224
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    Mark Williams-Thomas‏ @mwilliamsthomas
    I am working very closely with Op Yewtree & am very impressed with their determined to thoroughly investigate criminal offences.
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    jassi wrote: »
    It probably doesn't :rolleyes:

    Well, apparently it disbanded in 1984. It's mentioned in an article in the Telegraph.
    There was a similar organisation in Holland campaigning for the legalisation of child pornography just a few years ago!
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    From the Irish Independent 28/3/2012


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    More than 100 children remain on Ireland's missing persons list, it has been revealed. But one of the country's most senior Garda officers said there was no way to compare the figures with overseas because of "protocols" used to record them here. John O'Mahoney, Garda assistant commissioner, said 114 children who were reported missing over the past five years have still not been found.

    Of these, 106 vanished while under State care.

    More Here

    It would appear that "The State" is far from an ideal parent
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    Phoenix LazarusPhoenix Lazarus Posts: 17,306
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    There's a fascinating account here of Savile's antics during his time as a professional competitive cyclist, known as The Duke or Oscar Savile, before he became a professional cycling commentator.

    http://www.aubinandwills.com/en-gb/editorial/summer-2011/those-magnificent-men

    It just shows, how, from the start, he had this narcissistic obsession with attention and publicity.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 799
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    It just shows, how, from the start, he had this narcissistic obsession with attention and publicity.

    He would certainly make an interesting case study.
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    jzeejzee Posts: 25,498
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    It just shows, how, from the start, he had this narcissistic obsession with attention and publicity.
    Yep, I speculated before he only did the race to increase his profile, that article confirms it, with all his posturing before and after the event, eventually getting the job as official compere/commentator for the race. It does give the origin of the Oscar and Duke names- 'Oscar' was from his bike, 'Duke' was to do with him turning up in a (fake) Rolls Royce wearing a silk robe before the race.
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    tameelf wrote: »
    From the Irish Independent 28/3/2012


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    More than 100 children remain on Ireland's missing persons list, it has been revealed. But one of the country's most senior Garda officers said there was no way to compare the figures with overseas because of "protocols" used to record them here. John O'Mahoney, Garda assistant commissioner, said 114 children who were reported missing over the past five years have still not been found.

    Of these, 106 vanished while under State care.

    More Here

    It would appear that "The State" is far from an ideal parent

    It would be interesting to see this translated into proper statistics (in percentages), and compared with the number of children there are in care and in the general population..
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 133
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    As far as the BBC goes, if they had listened to the complaints from David Nicolson and other staff members about what they'd witnessed, they could have weeded JS out earlier and stopped his reign of child abuse in its tracks. Instead, their refusal to take action (because of his popularity and ability to bring in millions of viewers) allowed him to carry on abusing for decades.

    Excellent point, sozzled2day.
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    tameelf wrote: »
    From the Irish Independent 28/3/2012


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    More than 100 children remain on Ireland's missing persons list, it has been revealed. But one of the country's most senior Garda officers said there was no way to compare the figures with overseas because of "protocols" used to record them here. John O'Mahoney, Garda assistant commissioner, said 114 children who were reported missing over the past five years have still not been found.

    Of these, 106 vanished while under State care.

    More Here

    It would appear that "The State" is far from an ideal parent

    That is a shocking statistic, especially for a country with such a small population.
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    tameelf wrote: »

    I already have the full list from chris-org (I think that's the site) - with all councillors listed together. But thanks anyway. :)
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    Shy11 wrote: »
    I already have the full list from chris-org (I think that's the site) - with all councillors listed together. But thanks anyway. :)

    those links name convcted pedos shy not mps to write to m8
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    tameelf wrote: »

    And that's just those who have been caught. Its genuinely scary isn't it? I do wonder statistically how the number of individuals seeking positions of power relate to the number of known offenders?
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    tameelf wrote: »

    Now this is what I call a proper sentence (quote take from one of those links):

    "Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls."

    Confirmed here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Giordano

    He'd probably have got a couple of years here. What's wrong with this country?
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    DavidT wrote: »
    And that's just those who have been caught. Its genuinely scary isn't it? I do wonder statistically how the number of individuals seeking positions of power relate to the number of known offenders?

    That's exactly what I said earlier. I wonder if there are statistics and whether we can access them or use the freedom of information act?
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    But then again, statistics only deal with those who actually get caught, which skews things again because those in power are more likely to be able to pull strings.
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    Sickening Leeds United fans chant yesterday
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aKw7iOtzjdA
    "Jimmy Savile - he sh*gs who he wants."

    Unbelievable.
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    Shy11 wrote: »
    Now this is what I call a proper sentence (quote take from one of those links):

    "Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls."

    Confirmed here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Giordano

    He'd probably have got a couple of years here. What's wrong with this country?

    "What's wrong with this country?"

    I think it is becoming pretty obvious.

    How did Savile abuse at the BBC for so long? How did the Jersey care home scandal get shut down? How did a known abuser but still a lowly DJ get keys to a mental hospital?

    Because there are people higher up the food chain who protected and empowered him.

    People ask with incredulity "How do they get away with it"??....Simple, because the "Establishment" from the BBC to parliament to social services is rotten to the core in this country, and likely run by the Pedo gangs themselves.
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    Superior wrote: »
    "What's wrong with this country?"

    I think it is becoming pretty obvious.

    How did Savile abuse at the BBC for so long? How did the Jersey care home scandal get shut down? How did a known abuser but still a lowly DJ get keys to a mental hospital?

    Because there are people higher up the food chain who protected and empowered him.

    People ask with incredulity "How do they get away with it"??....Simple, because the "Establishment" from the BBC to parliament to social services is rotten to the core in this country, and likely run by the Pedo gangs themselves.

    And from what I've read, things ain't so different elsewhere...

    What I mean is, what on earth are we putting up with this **** for? We're a bunch of apathetic telly-heads, and it's a ****ing disgrace. We need to start a campaign - NOW, while it's on everyone's mind, demanding that sentencing is reviewed. Talking about it isn't good enough. :mad:
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    Superior wrote: »
    "What's wrong with this country?"

    I think it is becoming pretty obvious.

    How did Savile abuse at the BBC for so long? How did the Jersey care home scandal get shut down? How did a known abuser but still a lowly DJ get keys to a mental hospital?

    Because there are people higher up the food chain who protected and empowered him.

    People ask with incredulity "How do they get away with it"??....Simple, because the "Establishment" from the BBC to parliament to social services is rotten to the core in this country, and likely run by the Pedo gangs themselves.

    dont forget the cops the secret child courts

    go look on the tpuc website no heres the link http://tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2460
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    pina74 wrote: »
    Or just young children of either gender, and in his sick mind he thought that letching over teenage girls would make him appear more acceptable.
    There was something here the other night about JS being a member of the Paedophile Information Exchange (not sure if this is going into Icke territory?) in the 70s. Wikipedia claims that

    If JS was a member, I wonder what his response was re the age preference?
    I'm flabbergasted that this organisation actually existed?!

    Not only did it exist but it was even legal at one point. I imagine what happened is that people were taken by surprise by a bunch of men announcing they were attracted to children and formalising their attraction, so that they didn't know how to respond at first. The whole area of paedophilia and sex with children had been a taboo subject up until then so people may have been completely flummoxed and unsure of how to respond.
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