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Why do news organisations refer to Mohammed as a prophet?

TUCTUC Posts: 5,105
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News organisations regularly refer to 'the prophet Mohamed. Why do they do this? Although Muslims believe he was a prophet, others do not. After all, they don't refer to Jesus as the 'Lord Jesus Christ'. Should it not be that they simply refer to Mohammed 'whom Muslims consider to have been a prophet'?
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    Hollie_LouiseHollie_Louise Posts: 39,990
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    Maybe it's because there ain't many people still called Jesus walking around but there are quite a few Mohamed's?

    No idea really though lol
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    Chasing ShadowsChasing Shadows Posts: 3,096
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    Maybe it's because there ain't many people still called Jesus walking around but there are quite a few Mohamed's?

    No idea really though lol

    Go to Mexico (or Spain) - there's millions...
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    Hollie_LouiseHollie_Louise Posts: 39,990
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    Go to Mexico (or Spain) - there's millions...

    Yeah but the news here isn't aired in Mexico AFAIK lol. I doubt my reason is the actual one anyway
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    It's a phrase people are familiar with, much as they're familiar with 'Jesus' to mean that Jesus, and not some random bloke in South America.
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    Keyser_Soze1Keyser_Soze1 Posts: 25,182
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    Because they are frightened of the consequences if they do not.

    It's as simple as that.
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    Andrew1954Andrew1954 Posts: 5,448
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    Maybe like we might refer to the apostle Peter or Saint Christopher? I don't see a problem with saying the prophet Mohamed. Jesus is a much rarer name, in the West anyway, so it's clear who is being referred to.
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    TUCTUC Posts: 5,105
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    To say 'the prophet Mohammed' is to say as a statement of fact that he was a prophet rather than that just being something that Muslims believe. That is the problem.
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    Because they are frightened of the consequences if they do not.

    It's as simple as that.

    Do you know his surname off the top of your head? Would the GBP recognise it? How else would you distinguish that Mohammed from the many others, pithily and without bias, for a news report?
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    steveh31steveh31 Posts: 13,516
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    Persumably in the same way we said "Mother Teresa", "Pope Benedict" & "The Archbishop of Canterbury".
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    MC_SatanMC_Satan Posts: 26,512
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    steveh31 wrote: »
    Persumably in the same way we said "Mother Teresa", "Pope Benedict" & "The Archbishop of Canterbury".

    This.
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    jediknight2k1jediknight2k1 Posts: 6,892
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    The so called 'Prophet' of Islam who died because a Jewish slave decided to poison his food and test if his prophetic powers were genuine. As history has shown his so called prophetic powers failed and died of food poisoning.

    I guess Allah was not so knowing after all.
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    Nigel GoodwinNigel Goodwin Posts: 58,524
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    TUC wrote: »
    To say 'the prophet Mohammed' is to say as a statement of fact that he was a prophet rather than that just being something that Muslims believe. That is the problem.

    Why do you assume that he wasn't a 'prophet'? - it's nothing particularly special, unlike claiming to be the son of a fictitious 'god'.

    Anyone can be a prophet, you just need to make a prophecy - as mediums etc. commonly do (doesn't even need to come true, and can be based so far in the future that it won't matter).

    So 'prophet Mohammed' is no different to saying 'carpenter Mohammed' or 'Jones the Milk' if he was Welsh.
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    LurkalotLurkalot Posts: 1,563
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    Mohammed is no more a prophet than I am, he is a sky fairy.
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    Andrew1954Andrew1954 Posts: 5,448
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    TUC wrote: »
    To say 'the prophet Mohammed' is to say as a statement of fact that he was a prophet rather than that just being something that Muslims believe. That is the problem.
    But he was a prophet. He claimed to have been contacted by God to convey a message to humanity. That's what a prophet is. Whether or not we believe it to be true is irrelevant.
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    ACUACU Posts: 9,104
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    The so called 'Prophet' of Islam who died because a Jewish slave decided to poison his food and test if his prophetic powers were genuine. As history has shown his so called prophetic powers failed and died of food poisoning.

    I guess Allah was not so knowing after all.

    Shows how much you know.. The poisoning was a couple of years before his death. :D

    Although the Prophet did say, that he was still feeling the affects of the poison around the time of his death.

    As for Allah not knowing, I guess revealing a quranic verse, saying the prophets mission had been completed, before his death was a coincidence? :D
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    shackfanshackfan Posts: 15,461
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    Why do you assume that he wasn't a 'prophet'? - it's nothing particularly special, unlike claiming to be the son of a fictitious 'god'.

    Anyone can be a prophet, you just need to make a prophecy - as mediums etc. commonly do (doesn't even need to come true, and can be based so far in the future that it won't matter).

    So 'prophet Mohammed' is no different to saying 'carpenter Mohammed' or 'Jones the Milk' if he was Welsh.

    Careful there you'll have Welsh people waving leeks at you. It was Jones the STEAM. As fictitious as that prophet bloke though.
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    steveh31steveh31 Posts: 13,516
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    All religions give people titles - Pope, Archbishop, whatever so why should news treat Islam as any different.

    If Islam calls Muhammad a prophet then surely the news channels will use it.

    It is not the news organisations who decided it, in the same way I assume republic countries around the world would still refer to Queen Elizabeth as "The Queen" not Elizabeth Windsor.
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    culturemancultureman Posts: 11,701
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    Andrew1954 wrote: »
    But he was a prophet. He claimed to have been contacted by God to convey a message to humanity. That's what a prophet is. Whether or not we believe it to be true is irrelevant.

    Since his status as a prophet is opinion rather than fact, you are wrong. Just like claiming Doris Stokes was a clairvoyant, rather than misguided or a charlatan.
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    Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    steveh31 wrote: »
    Persumably in the same way we said "Mother Teresa", "Pope Benedict" & "The Archbishop of Canterbury".

    Or Jesus Christ
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    wychwych Posts: 854
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    TUC wrote: »
    News organisations regularly refer to 'the prophet Mohamed. Why do they do this? Although Muslims believe he was a prophet, others do not. After all, they don't refer to Jesus as the 'Lord Jesus Christ'. Should it not be that they simply refer to Mohammed 'whom Muslims consider to have been a prophet'?

    I don't see any problem here.

    (1) Reference is frequently made to "the prophet Isaiah/Ezekiel/Micah &c" from the Old Testament & Mohamed has as much (or as little) right to be considered a prophet as they have.

    (2) Whether or not a "prophet" does really have divine inspiration for his prophesies is irrelevant to whether or not he has the right to be considered a prophet. The validity or otherwise of his claims are not part of the definition.
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    jediknight2k1jediknight2k1 Posts: 6,892
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    ACU wrote: »
    Shows how much you know.. The poisoning was a couple of years before his death. :D

    Although the Prophet did say, that he was still feeling the affects of the poison around the time of his death.

    As for Allah not knowing, I guess revealing a quranic verse, saying the prophets mission had been completed, before his death was a coincidence? :D

    So he died after a been given poisoned food for two years. It means that his so called prophetic powers were none existent because he eventually died from it.

    Quite convenient that he dying and said his mission was complete. It's a bit like seeing a Jewish caravan and getting vision saying Allah told him to attack it, oh wait that is what happened, how convenient to receive such 'visions' when he needed them.
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    MudboxMudbox Posts: 10,110
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    when the news reader has to say 'may peace be upon him.', then we're in trouble.
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    MTUK1MTUK1 Posts: 20,077
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    Go to Mexico (or Spain) - there's millions...

    And the USA.
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    culturemancultureman Posts: 11,701
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    wych wrote: »
    I don't see any problem here.

    (1) Reference is frequently made to "the prophet Isaiah/Ezekiel/Micah &c" from the Old Testament & Mohamed has as much right to be considered a prophet as they have.

    (2) Whether or not a "prophet" does really have divine inspiration for his prophesies is irrelevant to whether or not he has the right to be considered a prophet. The validity or otherwise of his claims are not part of the definition.

    More typically they are referred to as Old Testament prophets. Maybe Mohammed should similarly be referred to as 'the Koranic prophet Mohammed' by media outlets.
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    paul2307paul2307 Posts: 8,079
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    Referring to him as a barbaric warlord and child rapist even though its true would result in an attack the same as that in Paris yesterday
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